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Mercedes-Benz will be showing off an EV concept at the Paris Motor Show this fall. This concept EV will be riding on a new modular electric platform that will underpin a new dedicated EV in 2020.

 

Last week at an event in Stuttgart, Mercedes teased this new modular platform. A lithium-ion battery pack is mounted to the floor and a set electric motors will be used on the front and rear axles. This layout is similar to the modular platform used by Tesla. Range is expected to be around 310 miles for the production model.

 

We're wondering if this platform is the rumored MEA (Modular Electric Architecture) we first reported on last month. Sources tell Car and Driver the dedicated EV will be a crossover that is GLC-sized, something we learned in our May report.

 

Source: Mercedes-Benz, Car and Driver

 

Press Release is on Page 2


 

Road #3: Electric pioneer Mercedes-Benz significantly expands carbon-free mobility

 

Reducing CO2 emissions across all vehicle categories is a top priority for Daimler AG. Electromobility has an important part to play in this regard. The company already has a large number of electric vehicles on the market, and the product range is set to continue to grow. Prof Dr Weber: "We are investing massively in electromobility, and we are convinced that the market is now ready. With the new vehicles we offer, we want to impress the benefits of the new mobility on car owners who have not yet opted for an electric vehicle."

 

The smart fortwo electric drive made Daimler the first manufacturer to offer a series-produced electric vehicle in 2007. Today, the company will soon have more than a dozen vehicles on the market including vans and commercial vehicles that are capable of emission-free driving. The range is going to be significantly expanded in the near future. The fourth generation of the smart as a fortwo and also as a forfour for the first time ever is being launched onto the market before the end of the year. The smart fortwo coupé electric drive, smart fortwo cabrio electric drive and smart forfour electric drive are making their global débuts at the Paris Motor Show in September 2016. With the début of the fourth generation of the electric smart, smart will be the only automotive manufacturer in the world to offer its entire range of models either powered by internal combustion engines or operating entirely on battery power. The new smart fortwo electric drive is being launched onto the US market by the end of this year, where approximately 25 percent of all battery-driven smarts have been sold recently. This will be followed by the European market launch of the two- and four-seat models in early 2017.

 

This will be followed by the Mercedes-Benz GLC F-CELL with innovative plug-in fuel cell technology from 2017. Fuel-cell technology is an integral part of Daimler's powertrain strategy. The benefits are obvious: a long operating range and short refuelling stops as well as a broad spectrum of possible uses ranging from passenger cars to urban buses. A new generation of vehicles is being launched from 2017 on the basis of the Mercedes-Benz GLC. The Mercedes-Benz engineers joined forces with partners in the Daimler network of expertise to develop a new, compact fuel-cell system which for the first time fits into conventional engine compartments. The GLC F-CELL also boasts another innovation for the next generation of fuel cell vehicles in the form of a large lithium-ion battery. Rated at around 9 kWh, the battery serves as an additional energy source for the electric motor and can be charged externally by means of plug-in technology for the first time. The combination of the fuel cell and battery systems in concert with the refinement of the intelligent operation strategy offers the best possible efficiency and comfort. With this set-up, the GLC F-CELL achieves a combined range of around 500 km in the NEDC.

 

Another important step is the development of a multi-model electric vehicle architecture for battery-powered vehicles. The first model is to be launched onto the market before the end of the decade.

 

The light-duty Fuso Canter E-Cell truck has been undergoing commercial fleet testing since 2015. This was initially carried out in Portugal where they are produced, and five of the vehicles have also been on the road for the City of Stuttgart and the logistics company Hermes since April this year. Instead of a diesel, an electric powertrain with a strong permanent-magnet motor delivers an output of 110 kW (150 hp) to the rear axle via a single-speed transmission. 650 newton metres of torque allow the six-tonne vehicle to accelerate almost as fast as a passenger car, and are available from the very first second of driving.

 

Dozens of fuel cell-powered Mercedes-Benz Citaro buses have already been proving their mettle for twelve transport operators on three continents since 2003. The next milestones on the way to the future are the Citaro E-CELL (battery-powered) and Citaro F-CELL (fuel cell-powered). Both are based on a shared e-platform, which allows tailored electromobility for any city and even any bus line. The capacity of the battery and charging technology are adjusted to suit the specific requirements. The forecast: By the year 2030, 70 percent of all newly acquired Citaro buses will run on electricity with zero local emissions.


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I think who ever gets multiple versions of EV CUVs out that are quality, 200+ to 300+ range will clean up. I am hoping that GM is starting that with the BOLT. 

 

BOLT 225 mile EV Subcompact

JOLT 325 mile EV Compact

JOULE 425 Mile EV Mid size

VOLTAIC 525 Mile EV Full size

 

I could see this as a full Chevy EV Family of CUVs.

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I can't wait to see the performance capability because the battery and motors will end up in a sedan that should be awesome.   Sort of smart of them to start with a crossover, because people are crazy for crossovers.  And a lot of electric cars are little, weird looking cars, if it is good looking crossover people will gobble it up.

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Mercedes also announced today that they will spend $7.8 billion in the next 2 years on greener powertrains, such as the 48 volt electric system mild hybrids, fuel cell and pure electric drivetrains.  

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Automakers are bench marking themselves like crazy nowadays. Don't expect competitive advantages to last too long. And don't expect it to be a blue chip to be the one to bring forward progress. And lastly, for the new tech firms - don't underestimate the virtues of distilled experience of being in the business.

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Seems the test mules are finally out and while heavily camo'd, you can see they do follow the concept EQ C that MB showed off. Autoblog has numerous pics of the beast doing cold weather testing.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/18/mercedes-benz-eq-c-electric-suv-spy-photos/#slide-7217532

Not Bad Looking, excited to see this hit the market.

 

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Concept had a definite RWD profile, but the camo'd version looks to be FWD-based.
Other than that- nothing exciting in the shape, but how could there be?

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2 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Concept had a definite RWD profile, but the camo'd version looks to be FWD-based.
Other than that- nothing exciting in the shape, but how could there be?

Pretty close when you look at the side profile. They do seem to have nailed it.

I do see where the front overhang is noticeably longer.

 

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4 minutes ago, balthazar said:

I had clicked on this shot, guess it depends on the angle:

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Got it, yea that shot going into a 3/4 angle shot does make the nose look more FWD biased. MB says this is an AWD with two rear motors and 1 front motor last I read. Be interesting to see what it ends up with as a Powertrain. No mater what, it should have far superior inside space compard to the rest of their ICE SUV/CUV lineup.

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It is all new platform, and yes it should have way more space since it is basically like what Tesla has with the flat floor and all that.   Rumor is 400ish hp and 500ish lb-ft of torque.  What is interesting is I read the EQ C crossover is the size of a GLE which looks to be the case based on the size of the vehicle in the spy photo but then wouldn't it be an EQ E?  or EQ GLE?  A lot of speculation still on this thing.

At some point these model lines will have to merge, because every Mercedes will be electric one day, not til the 2030s I imagine, but eventually.

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