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And you ignore all the toxic by products the Diesel engine puts out. These engines are very dirty in the configuration that the germans sold them in compared to the treatment systems that did clean them up. Yet with that said, today's advances have shown that diesel is not the efficient king it used to be. Moving forward in the 21st century, Hybrids and electrics will continue to improve and replace diesel and petro autos.

Random doggo pics for today. Sitting at a light on the way home from the groomers this afternoon after getting her summer 'do. Raine--a terrier mix of some sort--my youngest dog at 4 years..she is very high energy.

Currently, the Suburban is just based off the 1500. There is an "almost 2500" Suburban available only to goverment fleets (think FBI and Secret Service) The previous generation Suburban could come as a 1500 or 2500, but the final generation Avalanche was 1500 only... though again there was an "almost 2500" version that got a 6.0 liter HO engine instead of the standard 5.3. The first generation Avalanche, like the Suburban, came in 1500 or 2500 guise. The Avalanche 2500 came with the 8.1 liter and a bunch of other upgrades The Escalade EXT of all generations was 1500 only.

You're correct on all points except one.. the Avalanche is more directly related to the Suburban. I know it's a minor detail from the powertrain side, but the interiors between Suburban and Silverado are different. In an avalanche, everything in front of the mid-gate is lifted straight out of a Suburban/Tahoe

This is very difficult to compare directly.... I'll do my best. I'm going on what my guess is for the most common configuration. Because there are so many configurations available in trucks, the curb weights can vary by more than 1,500 pounds from base single cab work truck all the way up to Crew Cab High Country/ SuperCrew King Ranch. A 2018 Chevy Silverado LT Crew Cab 5.3 4x4 Short Box is listed at 5,300 A 2018 Ford F-140 Lariat 5.0 Super Crew is 4x4 at 4,858 - Going to a 2.7 EB only saves 9 lbs. ... but that's the 2018. The 2019 Silverado dropped about 500lbs when announced and this new 2.7 supposedly saves them another 80lbs. So they're going to be pretty dead even. It's going to end up coming down to minutia like if sunroof is selected or not to tip the scale in one direction or another.

I know the personal luxury coupe genre is long dead, but a modern Thunderbird, modern Monte Carlo and Regal coupes (actual 2dr coupes)--could be interesting. And to go wild, a Cordoba for Chrysler. And an Eldorado for Cadillac--a large coupe based on the CT6 would be nice. Something in the style of the Elmiraj concept.

See, my bias is showing. You are correct of course; the 301 was Pontiac-built, but they're basically mediocre people movers at best, with no aftermarket support or collector interest. Throw-aways. It's like offering someone a dish with a geen/moldy carrot nub and a fresh, hot, seasoned piece of grilled chicken; they're really close to each other but only 1 is at all appealing. "The last REAL Pontiac V8."

No. It really doesn't. Facts don't change depending on the news source. Doesn't matter if it is politics or cars. Facts matter around here.

This will not occur in any of our lifetimes, Dave. In fact, I predict it won't even get to 50% EV usage in our lifetimes.

GM shocked the world with the Bolt. Some reason the Lady CEO that was willing to go crazy and show the world that GM could build a Great starting EV auto has now stepped back and we have heard and seen nothing of the 7 EV auto's that are supposed to be coming. Not even any concepts at NY. I truly think GM could very well go toe to toe with Tesla and even beat them as GM knows how to assemble auto's.

People keep bringing up that electricity is generated by coal. However, in the US at the moment electricity generation breakdown is as follows: 32% - generated by Natural Gas 30% - generated by Coal 20% - generated by Nuclear Power 17% - generated by Renewable Sources (7% - Hydropower, 6% - Wind, 2% - Biomass, 1% - Solar, Geothermal - 1%) 1% - generated by Petroleum https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=electricity_in_the_united_states If you look at the generation trend by source below, US was generating over 50% of electricity by coal in 2000 and now it is down to 30% and continue going lower.

NWO/Globalist want to control the masses by limiting our mobility, thus shoving all these hybrids and EV's down our throats. Diesel cars were becoming Mainstream as it's only slightly more expensive than regular and you get more range from it, underlined since people suffer Range Anxiety, no matter what the "Experts" will tell ya. Diesel was a monkey wrench in the plans since it was a viable alternative that didn't rely on every trick in the book to get good economy (Strip the average hybrid of the cvt's, aerodynamic under panels and body parts and wheels and watch the mileage take a hit, whereas Diesel can be driven with standard and can be swapped into anything that can handle the extra heft basically), thus "3 students" at some University happened to find the cheat devices and supposedly it's releasing more emissions than claimed and now every libtarded government is going after diesel like it actually killed people, when no one remembers when Harley did something similar (They're domestic, thus they paid a fine and it was swept under the rug) I bring this up since really, it was blown out of proportion and should of been dealt with without such scandal. You can talk about alternative fuel's all you want, they're not here yet, and those electric cars are powered by coal, thus if you bought it for environmental reasons, then the jokes on you. No enthusiast wants to see their favorite sports cars bastardized by Hybridization and EV's, since unlike diesels, you're relegated to one transmission and when things inevitably go wrong, it's gonna be more of a pain to fix once the warranty goes out the window, plus again, take away the special panels and aero and the advantage disappears (Also, if you actually drive it like a normal person instead of Granny), while Diesel can be driven normally and you still get amazing mpg, and don't even get me started on the EV part, since despite the claims of "Superchargers" and "Extended batteries" and whatnot, you know unlike a modern ICE or Diesel, you so much as have the AC on during a hot summer day or the heat on during the middle of winter and actually drive it, your range is taking a hit! I'm still not sure where people lean on this forum, and I could very well be reviled by some and loved by others for this, but hell with it, just my 2 cents Enjoy

Tesla's 'production hell' is continuing on and is causing the automaker to shut down the Model 3 assembly line for almost a week. Reuters has learned from two sources that Tesla will stop production of the Model 3 from May 26th to 31st in an effort to fix the various bottlenecks on the line. A Tesla spokesperson declined to comment. Tesla warned that there would be 10 days of temporary shutdowns this quarter in an effort to try and get Model 3 production back up and running smoothly. CEO Elon Musk said the shutdowns would be used to make upgrades to reach a goal of building 5,000 Model 3s by the end of June. Already, Tesla stopped production for a few days last month, and also in February. The key problem is Tesla's over-reliance on robots for production, something Musk acknowledges. Source: Reuters View full article

.Over the weekend, Tesla CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter and announced a new powerful version of the Model 3. The version according to Musk will cost $78,000 and will be "quicker & with better handling. The last line of Musk's tweet made us chuckle since the current Model 3 warranty doesn't permit racing and autocross. Nevertheless, it has brought up questions as to where the $35,000 Model 3 is. For a number of buyers who plopped down the $1,000 deposit, this is the model they are waiting for. Musk gave a roundabout answer to where the low-priced Model 3 is. There is some truth to Musk's madness. Tesla is burning through cash like it is going out of style. According to Bloomberg, the company used up more than a billion in the first quarter. One way Tesla raises money is rolling out their most expensive variants of the Model S, X, and 3. Once they have enough cash, they will begin production of less expensive models. But the Model 3 has proven to be very problematic for Tesla. Various delays and production issues have caused Tesla to push back production targets for the Model 3 again and again. Tesla is aiming to produce 5,000 Model 3s a week by the end of the second quarter. “The idea that it’s supposed to be a car for everyone is kind of laughable. Anyone who wanted a base model may have to wait years out,” said Ivan Drury, senior manager of industry analysis at Edmunds.com. Source: Bloomberg (Subscription Required) View full article

so, as i am saying if someone built it they would be rewarded with sales. honestly man i had no idea someone beat me to the idea! https://jalopnik.com/this-fiero-is-the-electric-sports-car-you-should-buy-ri-1823494520 http://www.thedrive.com/news/19011/ebay-gives-you-a-chance-at-an-electric-fiero

i think if GM had a tit for tat competitor for Tesla, say a really good looking sexy Cadillac with a killer all electric powertrain (not a CT6 stupid 4 cylinder plug in hybrid) at similar prices, the war would be on. GM could easily morph the Bolt into something Tesla 3 sized with Bolt price. and it would sell like hotcakes. Bolts a little small. Something the size of the previous Equinox in a nice wrapper and all electric at Bolt plus some pricing would sell like hotcakes. An all electric every day sedan like my Malibu (not volt sized) that was an affordable electric only with big range would sell like hotcakes. How about a Fiero clone with a mid engine electric motor instead of gas? I'd even bring back plastic panels.

So funny how you twist and take everything out of context.

Which had some differences from the Buick 215 V8 (which went on to be the Rover V8). I only knew about this engine from reading about its later use in creating the Repco V8 used in the Brabhams that won the '66-67 F1 championships.

Except, OF COURSE, for the Volt & Bolt. EV1 was a pilot lease program, not a production car. Perhaps it could have been put into production I believe (in no way am I up on it's specs/costs), but clearly the time was not right. There were a healthy bunch of fledgling EV cars since the '70s- ALL failures. There is no "pullback" since the Volt came out, and the Bolt is irrefutable proof of that.

It's really tiny---164 inches long. That's a subcompact. It's only slightly larger than the Sonic hatchback, and smaller than the Trax (subcompact CUV). Definitely too small to be a compact. I don't know, I like luxury SUVs over ordinary cars as far a daily driver. I'd take my Jeep over any midsize sedan. Likewise, I'd probably take an GLS, Escalade or Navigator over most full size sedans for a daily driver...

It's like the inverse of an auto enthusiast statement. Might as well just say you're in love with electric cars too... ? In what world is that class of car considered "subcompact"?

People who talked about how they would have a superior Tesla 3 for $35,000 minus their fed rebate of $7,500 so they would have a Tesla for $27,500 are now canceling and moving to the Bolt as Tesla will not have rebates left by the time they get their minimal cost car in production. http://www.autonews.com/article/20180216/RETAIL/180219760/musk-tesla-model3-chevy-bolt-competition-tax-credit

Tell that to the Class of 1980-1989 at just the Pittsburgh Oldsmobile club (of which I am no longer a member). There was always a row of 307 powered Cutlasses, a few 88s and 98s, and at least one white Toronado. Some of those Cutlasses were Hursts But anyway, except for a couple oddball years (1985 being one), the intakes, headers and other bits from the Olds 350 could bolt right on. The 307 was just a 350 with a smaller bore.

"with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track." That's a ballsy line right there.

I know @Drew Dowdell would love for Chevy to bring back an Avalanche! Seems relatively simple when it comes to platform and parts as they're all already there in the Silverado.

S2000 definitely needs to come back, idc if they offer a 10spd so long as it's also available with a traditional 6 spd Personal coupes to compete with the A5 would be nice, and now that the domestic makers make quality products, do it right and it'll compete (Especially with all those Real People, not Actors ads) Chrysler definitely needs some fresh new blood, so what can they make that's fun...

I want one!

I wonder how much weight difference between the new Silverado and F150 would be, for the same body style and bed length.

It looks like the Cruze RS Hatchback I just had

I'm not even sure what I'd bring back.. There seems to be a lot out there now. I think something in a similar size class to the GM twins you spoke of would be pretty awesome as well, an S2000. They could have a base 1.5 and a nastier 2.0 engine. This is brain buster of a question for me and I don't think it should be lol.

Only a bit, depends on when it comes on, but from my recollection, the Ford 2.7 hits it max torque pretty low in the range also. These engines are going to be pretty darn close. It's going to come down to overall weight.

^ That is actually really sad...

Look at that green line rising and the black line plummeting... and that chart only goes to 2015, 2016 on tha chart was only a forecast. I bet the change is even more drastic 3 years later. I know here in PA an already large wind farm was vastly expanded in the past few years. That is the same equation being figured by drivers in the EU. Gasoline motors have gotten so efficient even without electrification that there is no longer a cost per mile advantage to get diesel.

EV1 , then no electrics, Volt, Bolt and then not much else. Big leaps, then corporate pullback. GM has decades of elec tech and is just not using it.

I am sorry, but saying that GM "shocked" the world with Bolt that came out in 2016 is a bit of overstatement to put it politely. Absolutely nothing shocking about it. Not saying that GM could not be a leader in electric vehicles, they have the resources, they started with EV1 which actually gave inspiration for Tesla, but as many times before they dropped the ball.

The twins were great cars that were to little to late from GM in a dying segment that now only sees interest from those that want a cheap car to customize and build into a racer or just plain high performance street car. Society is and has moved on and the days of convertibles especially with skin cancer becoming more common are more of a baby boomers auto and the rare X, Y and Z generation person. Sales have proven that society is more interested in 4 door group hauling people than personal 1-2 person auto's. Yes there is still a market for it as to why the Miata is still around, but I do not see a business case for bringing it back at the general or pretty much any other auto company at this time.

One more thing @Zane Wylder. I actually seriously considered getting a diesel as a daily a year or two ago. But after carefully calculating cost of the vehicle, cost of diesel vs regular gas, fuel economy, maintenance etc. of the same sedan with diesel vs regular 4-cylinder I came to a conclusion that it simply not really worth it for me personally. Which is unfortunate because I do like diesel vehicles.

I've already said I think it is being implemented incorrectly while the overall goal is good. There is major risk in repealing it entirely. We live in a global economy. GM doesn't want to build one engine for the US and one engine for China and one engine for the EU.... they want to build one engine that will work in all of those places. If suddenly the US is the one with the loosest standards, we will start falling behind in technology as all of the older stuff is sent here and the other countries get the newest things. This is already happening in renewable energy. China is pushing hard for renewables while we're trying to get our coal industry restarted. The center of gravity for solar and turbine development and manufacturing has shifted to China and the EU. So, that's why the premise of this article talks about the auto industry not wanting standards rolled back too much. Their ideal would be the same standard in emissions for all countries.

Banks were deregulated with the repeal of Glass-Stegel Act. A big thing that came from that was that banks could now gamble with your money in dodgey investments. Simultaneously, mortgage regulations went out the window so that anyone who could fog a mirror qualified for a mortgage. You couldn't let your dog off its leash or it would come back with a home equity line of credit. At the same time, wages stagnated. Off shoring became the big thing for companies to do. The internet made it even more possible. People trying to make up for the loss of wage increases started turning to the home equity line of credit just to keep up with increases in the cost of living. That was what the professionals call; A Bad Idea. All of these newly qualified mortgage holders became house shoppers. This started driving up the price of homes. Speculators came in and flipped homes forming a housing price bubble. Swirl all that together and you have the perfect storm that caused the recession starting in 2007. It all formed because banks wanted less regulation. Not all regulations are bad, some regulations keep bad things from happening. CAFE is regulation with good intentions being implemented badly. I agree with it's generally stated goal. I disagree with how they go about getting there. Repealing it without replacing it would lead to bad things, including possibly a significant loss of the auto industry in the US.

Problem is, the inmates are running the asylum in Cali. Gonna cut most of the politics out, but simply put, there's a reason for the mass exodus basically. If you removed the illegals, implemented voter ID and didn't have radical judges overruling the consent of the govern, then I'd believe the state truly knew best (And the inmates would be put back in their cells) It truly is, bro, it truly is

Sweet.. I saw a Buick today w/ a New Jersey plate...a dark blue current gen LaCrosse in my neighborhood.

It's not the white dash for me, I kinda like it. I don't like the look of the car, I don't like how spartan the interior is. I'm used to driving Buicks, Cadillacs, Oldsmobiles, and LTZ Chevys. I already said if they put the power train in a Regal or Lacrosse I'd be there. I already have an auto trader search for a CT6 PHEV and Fusion Energi Platinums 2017 or newer. No one makes a pure EV that I like. I'm ready to put my money where my mouth is as soon as someone produces the vehicle the way I want it. I waited 5 months for the color and equipment combo we got in the Encore. I'm a patient man when it comes to buying things the way I want them.

There is no place to plug in a golf cart in the city, which is ironic because electrics are only good as short hop toys, not long distance cruisers. This is a big country.

i could say the same for you

So remember in my note to you how you'll need to back up your statements? We'll go through your original post.... How? How does a hybrid, which still uses gasoline, limit mobility? EVs are not mandatory... if you don't like the Tesla, don't buy one. Last I looked, the gas-burner F-150 was still the best selling vehicle in the US. There is NOTHING stopping you from buying one. They even just added a diesel option. Nothing is being shoved down your throat. More transportation options are not a bad thing. People suffer from fueling network anxiety with a diesel. I've pointed that out in other threads where I would suggest a diesel to someone but their worry was finding fuel. I like diesels, but it is not the savior you're making it out to be. Its exhaust, without after treatment, is also substantially more toxic than gasoline. That was VWs fault. VW's hubris and greed has pretty much killed any great future for diesel. Blame them, not some conspiracy theory secret illuminati group. As far as range anxiety, that will go away as range gets longer and chargers get more common. In the meantime, nearly every manufacturer has or is coming out with plug-in hybrids for the transition. Getting people used to plugging in creates a demand for more chargers which creates a demand for more plug-ins. Those were the old hybrids. Hybrids now are all about adding power and drivability while also saving fuel. Volvo doesn't make a 400hp / 427 lb-ft 4-cylinder hybrid as their top engine by accident. The 4-cylinder Volvo S90 PHEV will walk away from any normally aspirated V6 and many turbo V6es without blinking. It does so while getting 29 mpg combined when running on just gasoline and 71 mpg when adding its EV only range. This is not your father's first generation Toyota Prius. In case you're thinking the Volvo is an exception, the Cadillac CT6 PHEV is 25 combined and 62 mpg with EV. At a more accessible level, the Ford Fusion Energi is 42mpg combined and 97 mpg with EV. In all cases, the emissions of these PHEVs will be substantially lower than even the cleanest of diesels. It's not "supposedly". It happened. Bosch built the device and specifically warned VW against using it in production. The students performed the test because there was reasonable doubt about VW's claims. VW claimed that they were able to meet emissions standards without any special technology in the emissions control system and wouldn't explain how they did it. Turns out, that they were able to do it by cheating on the emissions test. You've already been spoken to about part of this. Smog and pollution do kill people. Respiratory distress caused by smog is a real thing. Harley sales are a fraction of even just the Jetta. Furthermore, Harley was not selling bikes outfitted with the cheater from the factory... they sold a reprogrammer that was only to be used for competition tuning, it is unlikely that even 5% of the Harleys sold got the modification after the fact. The situations are not at all parallel. As far as being domestic or not.... it's the German/EU government who has come down hard on VW. Not just the US. VW knowingly committed fraud in the sale of hundreds of thousands of vehicles... you think the government should just look away? I don't have an EV or PHEV yet, but when I do, it will be powered by wind. I have energy selection here in PA and at least 20 other states have it too. If someone is environmentally conscious enough to buy an EV, they're probably also going to know enough to switch their energy provider. I have a 2 year wind energy contract and my rate is the same as what I would be charged for coal. Furthermore, coal generation is rapidly declining as it gets replaced by natural gas. While natural gas still releases carbon, the overall pollution footprint is much smaller. If you haven't noticed, all cars are getting this aero and special panels, diesels included. The new silverado has those slits in the front bumper just to direct air around the front wheels. Cars are already a nightmare to fix. I'm not sure what you mean by the "one" transmission.... manuals are going the way of the Dodo already and your choice is going to come down to 8-speed automatic or 10-Speed automatic. Your impression of hybrids appears to be out of date. If you limit yourself to Eco-Green oriented vehicles like the Pruis, then yes, if you drive it hard, the fuel economy suffers... but part of that is because it is a fairly under powered vehicle. Drive an XC90 or S90 hybrid and you'll do way way better on fuel than if it were powered by a normal V6 or V8.... and they do really pull hard when you step on it. You simply won't find a 400hp V6 AWD sedan that can get 29 mpg combined city/highway and also be capable of 71 mpg when you charge it up. I just drove a 400hp AWD Cadillac CT6 from Pittsburgh to NYC and was amazed that I was able to get 27mpg in just highway driving. My city mpg was much lower, low 20s. I know it's a minivan, but the Pacifica Hybrid is stupid fast and will still get amazing fuel economy. It's criminal how fun they made the acceleration on a mini-van and yet 85 mpg-e is still possible. My 2013 Buick takes about a 4 mpg hit when using the A/C.... it's enough that I've been considering having it looked at. My 2004 Honda is the same. When I was in my Honda escaping the hurricane in Florida last September, not running the A/C was the difference between making it to the next gas station or not. As most gas stations were out of gas, range anxiety was a very very real thing for me. Hypermiling it, keeping the A/C off and driving only 60 to 65 mph, I was able to get my best range ever... 300 miles. normally I get only 250. We have people all over the political spectrum here, but more importantly we strive for facts rather than hyperbole. It sounds like a bunch of your facts are out of date..... stick around and maybe we can help update them. I am the site owner and @William Maley is the other primary editor/admin. We both are registered as members of the press and we get direct access to the manufacturers to test cars and write news. We've been doing this a long time so we do know our onions from mushrooms. This site has been around since August of 2001 with many of the members you've been interacting with being here well over a decade. We're not the largest site, we're not the busiest site, we don't have the staffing to be the fastest with the news, but one thing we can be is the smartest site with thoughtful, fact-based, intelligent, and respectful discussions. If that's something you think you can be a part of, then put the ad-hominems away, pull up a chair, and enjoy.

My sister sent me a couple pics of her rental car from this weekend. Alfa Romeo Giulietta. She's working in the Netherlands for a couple weeks, took this sightseeing around the Netherlands, Belgium and into France the last couple of days. Said it handled well and was comfortable.

@Zane Wylder Clearly you have not driven modern hybrid or electric auto. I would have agreed with you on the bastardized hybridized auto when looking at the very first hybrids from the 90's and even early 2000's. Yet Hybrid auto's are much faster with instant torque and can do much of what a diesel car did. There is no longer any reason for the polluting coal roaling cars. Not sure if your just unaware or just uneducated in regards to diesel, the acid rain it causes, the more than 40 toxic contaminants exhaust spews into the air and that most power is NOT created by Coal in the US. The bulk of power comes from much cleaner Natural Gas. diesel-health-effects.pdf Diesel has a place, but in trucks, not cars now and as technology pushes forward it will be replaced in trucks as well. After 110 years, time for Diesel to fade away as well as petro.

^ Sometimes I have no idea what channel you're on, Reg.

Shame we won't see a renewed SS Sedan. That car's successor badged as an Impala would be a fantastic candidate to get this as a base engine.