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PSA have any plans to at least check the sales charts of fiat & alfa? 'cause Peugeot is in the very same, tiny basket of 'who-asked-you-to?'.

Saw a Stelvio new at the 24hr fitness last night when I went to work out, the sun roof was partially open. I told the person they were calling for rain and he looked at me pissed and said there was nothing he could do as it was no longer functional, being taken in today and so far he had buyers remorse due to the poor quality of the CUV. I have to think that anyone that is willing to pay the money these auto's command will look at the reviews and think twice about buying their quality-less auto's.

The current Yaris sedan is a Mazda 2, the US market hatch was a Toyota. I don't think we ever got this restyled version, in orange it would look like a demented Jack-o-Lantern.

Yes, but I assume this is just another example of GM being cheap.

But so should a Buick.

The Alfa interiors aren't as good as any German car, not even close. So there is one problem, they have performance but the Germans have that too. And the reliability worries I feel like are a huge obstacle. You almost know going in it will break so why buy it? Alfa almost has to give these cars away for 5 years and prove they are reliable before masses will pay money for them. They should be selling Alfa's at $400 a month for 72 months. I get that is $28k, but that is about what people are willing to risk on one of these. For a hot second Alfa was bragging how the Guilia was the fastest 4-door around the Nurburgring and the Stelvio was the fastest SUV, then Mercedes took both those away about a month later. So you are getting 2nd place performance with sub par interior and bottom of the barrel reliability. Not a recipe for success.

Short beds are for posers.

I'm bout to go all jihad on Barra for this ~

Well, two GM brands have French roots--directly and indirectly. As an aside, for French-Canadian singers I prefer Mylene Farmer, and for French musicians/bands I like M83 and Kavinsky.

Celine Dion is not from Europe; she is French Canadian. Otherwise, good point.

FIAT owns most if not all Italian automakers. That is the problem.

Being Italian one would expect the Stelvio to be of low quality and poor reliability, but high style. At least they aren't known for catching fire spontaneously like Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

Celine Dion?

Interesting! ? In the past they have built concepts that caught my attention but never delivered what I would buy or fit in. Be interesting to see how they do their EV platform. ? Course @ocnblu will only see this as ?

Yeah, I do like the R/T. I won't be buying new though, so it's harder to find an R/T used with the options I want. Right now, I'm looking at the 300S with AWD and adaptive cruise. I'm finding 2018s with like 20k miles on them for about $25k

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6518852035482304512 Awesome read on what GM is doing to ensure diversity and equal pay. Video https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C5605AQGGXsU1-wqMGg/9e68afa100d24cf6823a83ac43096862/feedshare-mp4_3300-captions-thumbnails/1507940147251-drlcss?e=1554390000&v=beta&t=ngqrrO90lDan87qtFr-XHaXG5KY2Iiq-TRSwouebKoM

Exactly. A buddy of mine who him and his wife recently had their first baby upped their Buick Encore to a Buick Enclave because they have a baby now.. I think they plan a second but his justification was nothing more than they want something larger, when you looked past the BS reasonings. I get it. In the end, people buy what they want regardless.

It's not much different than actively buying a 7-pass CUV- how often do people need those? Maybe -like some suggest RE F/S trucks- they can just rent a 7-pass for those infrequent occasions they need one (have a large buying spree at Home Depot). Most people buy in bulk. Costco... homes... It's The Way Of Things.

Thanks blu- I spent an hour the other night watching utube episodes. Funny stuff. - - - - - '41 DeSoto Business Coupe - love the lines ~

check it what do ya think? https://carbuzz.com/news/2020-cadillac-ct5-looks-stunning-in-all-colors All I still see is

Not to beat a dead horse, but rain-sensing wipers on a Yaris, yet never a LaCrosse... Anyway, not a fan of the Yaris or hatches in general, but this looks nice and nicely equipped.

I wonder why Mazda doesn't just sell this on their own in the US. They sell it as the Mazda 2 in other countries. They have a pretty good rep here. Maybe its just easier to let Toyota do the marketing.

Ford won't be out until Thursday. Just waiting for the others to trickle out.

If a Tesla semi ever shows up, it'll cost $500,000. And be useless in sub-freezing temps.

Interesting is that Tesla has the highest resale value of any luxury auto in Germany. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-highest-resale-value-germany/ The list of highest resale value of luxury auto's is as follows: Tesla - Model S Porsche - Panamera Audi - A8 Mercedes - S-class Luxus - LS BMW - 7 series Jaguar - XJ Makes one rethink the marketing tag of "The best or nothing at all!" Tesla is going to go against the big 3 truck makers and will have to deliver bigger than any of their current auto's for them to sway the loyal masses. This is going to be interesting to watch!