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And as far as top speeds of OEM custom-built race cars go, its interesting that the vast majority of mercedees are limited to 155 MPH. Shouldn't they be going 650-700 MPH by now??

General Motors has also set a 268 MPH top speed, but with a 4-cylinder, not a V-12.

I have been reading that many auto sites are now looking at Benchmark Sprints with distance covered as a more reliable test since even a V6 Camry can haul ass off the line now. I honestly agree it is time to retire the 0 to 60 quote of performance. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/zero-to-irrelevant-in-sixty-years-its-time-to-change-the-performance-benchmark/ To Quote: It’s time to replace the 0-60 test with something that is actually relevant to modern American motoring. The quarter-mile, as wonderful as it is, really does exceed what’s safe and sane. I suggest eighty miles per hour as a good compromise. With the possible exception of I-94 in Chicago and 495 in northern Virginia, if you can accelerate to eighty miles per hour you’re going to be good to merge. I would also suggest that, in lieu to time, we substitute distance. How much room does a car need to get to eighty? That’s the most relevant power statistic we can provide the American motorist. I will say I love all the new Vehicle Benchmarking that is being created. https://www.avl.com/vehicle-benchmarking

At least Cadillac resolved the emissions issue on the CT6-V. I do hope that at least another 5000 are made and released to the public.

Ohhh...I have given up on the mainstream American media. I never watch Fox, MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS or the like.

Probably better built, though...high strength steel and CF instead of Tesla's glued-together cardboard , plastic and aluminum (Teslas seem poorly assembled with subpar materials).

But it's a Porsche.

Oldsmobile Pride!

Isn't this also much more expensive than a Model S along with much less range? Those are two pretty big disadvantages of the Taycan.

Merge speed on some freeways...

The diesel engine with so much torque is really ideal for low-range rock climbing. It will even help people who for some reason use a Wrangler solely as a commuter vehicle as they'll get much better fuel economy. The only drawback I see is that Jeep will probably overprice the diesel so that only the most diesel dedicated will buy it.

OK that is nice. Where is the demand for a Jeep with a diesel engine coming from again? Ten years ago I could see it, but not now.

Taycan is here. It looks "pretty good", imo. I do fear for Tesla as Porsche is a giant or at least has giant money and I think this will eat into Tesla pretty hard unless Tesla has heavy updates coming soon to the Model S. I have to believe the quality control over at Porsche will have them in a much better position than Tesla. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28899036/2020-porsche-taycan-photos-info/

Well, knowing VW, the Bugatti has a cheat devices in the emissions computer.

Given how ugly a Bugatti is today, can you imaging how ugly the SUV would be?

I'm waiting for a rental property to sell. I won't be buying new, I'll buy a low mileage pre-owned this:

Not familiar with it, but it makes sense as a real world freeway on-ramp acceleration or passing measurement ....more useful than 0-60.

I wonder how much the inflation and political instability in Argentina have a factor in this...

@daves87rs I am really interested in why you think putting up a commercial grade charger is harder than a destructive environmental gas station. All the EPA regs and double wall tank plus underground leak sensors, soil sensors, etc. compared to running the 220 or 440 3 phase to a pad and putting up the trickle or quick charge chargers. Right now there are 22,800 commerical charging stations in the US. https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html#/find/nearest?fuel=ELEC&country=US&ev_levels=2&ev_levels=dc_fast&ev_levels=1 According to the U.S. Department of Energy, we have the following statistics: 270 million ICE autos, 150,000 Gas stations, 1.2 million pumps which equals 225 ICE autos to a single pump. 1 million EVs at the end of 2018 registered, 22,800 Charge stations, 63,840 Charging connections which equals 15 EVs per charge connection. This does not even include 110 or 220, level 1 & 2 home or business connections that are out there. I would say the EV charging infrastructure is building fast. I would say check out your area for current details.

BUt the thing is.. AMERICAN MEDIA.. won't cover it except for a blurb. GM or Ford.. or even Chry.. they would be running the stories back to back daily for 5 years. I mean really. I just thought about what I typed and almost threw up in my mouth at the bulls#!t. Especially if it were GM they would be obsessed over it.. demanding Trump ram Mary Barra's residence door down to get at her

I guess 1600 HP pretty much makes any upcoming 1000 HP cars completely obsolete, out the door.

The real issue is whether automakers will actually pass on the savings from ICE to EV towards consumers via lower prices. I suspect they will not do so unless forced by new entrants into the marketplace. . . . or an existing automaker wants to start a price war.

Great Fleet!! I guess I'm waiting till next spring now to get a bike.

I like how the dash has a very 911 style gauge cluster.. and the use of the touch screens is better integrated than Tesla's giant screen. Looking forward to seeing this in person along w/ the Audi etron GT.

If I ever get the urge to get back onto a bike, I would go this route for ICE: For EV I would go with the Live Wire from Harley.

Height matters in riding. Believe me. When I was originally looking for a bike (I'm 6'3) I was gonna get a Sportster 1200.. Sat on it.. all hunched over even with 10 inch bars.. went for a test.. came back with an aching back. At 5'10,.. U still might want to look at a larger bike so as U don;t have to go thru as much adjusting and changing stuff to accommodate your height.. just sayin. If U already know this.. my bad.. That BMW may have U needing to up the handle bars and change the seat.. no to mention get forward controls. TRUTHFULLY.. U can find a lotta nice deals on older bikes with low miles that are larger.. from Harley.. Triumph.. Indian.. hell even Yamaha. I admittedly was considering getting a Yamaha Raider S

I don't think they'll surpass Tesla in volume. They're not going for a volume model like the 3 and S.

Actually this is on par with what Tesla did when they first came out and I would be willing to bet that as Porsche gets their battery tech ramp'ed up especially in regards to solid state you will see more battery options over the next few years. Porsche is playing catch up, but I expect as a Premium brand they will surpass Tesla in a much shorter time frame.

In the realm of hypercar craziness, when will see 0-60 times that are negative...so fast you get to 60 before you started...;)

Yeah, I frequently get my Jeep to 75-80 or more at the merge point when entering traffic on Ohio freeways..was harder to do in Phoenix w/ the metered ramps--there 0-60 is more important. (or some freeway entrances in CA--0-30 with the gridlock and super short ramps).

Yes, but I can see people paying a premium for the badge...

Heck, most V6es can to that. But I understand your viewpoint is from the shorty onramps that NJ has.

Is 267mph the same as 300mph?

I think the diesel will only go to people who actually take them off-road. The Pentastar is plenty good enough for off-roading as it is.

I’m sure those three future owners of them will be very happy...for the first 50,000 miles anyway.

Yeah, the much hyped AMG One can't do it...

When is Mercedes going to go after 300mph? They can't even get an engine to run clean...

The 500X is just a rounder Jeep Renegade. I doubt it would get a rebadge at all..... Call it the Caliber maybe if they did do it.

Won’t be surprised to see them pull out and fire sale what they have by the end of the year. FCA cannot be losing money anywhere if they want to survive the downturn.....

Wonder how this will effect their reputation / trust level going forward, even if it's regarding EVs. Multiple corporate-level marketing cheats don't go far in the 2nd-largest-capital-expenditure of a consumer's life.

Rivian Pre-Production fleet testing in Tierra Del Fuego Agentina. https://www.thedrive.com/news/29656/rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-prototypes-spotted-testing-in-argentinas-tierra-del-fuego Seems white and Grey are new colors for Rivian R1T. Seems they moved the charge port from the passenger side to the drivers side. Nothing like High Altitude Winter Testing for true battery performance.

The question is if "we" revers to OEMS, or consumers. I'm betting that most of any cost savings will NOT be passed on to consumers, ESPECIALLY as the segment grows in volume. There's simply no marketing pressure to do so. More and more decidedly non-luxury vehicle brands are pushing upwards, making the entry-level market increasing low volume / barren. It may well be that the automobile returns to it's dawn of primarily high priced vehicles.

Automakers are not going to start turning back to unprofitable cars (small, low priced sedans) just because people can't afford what they're producing during a recession. They'll let the used market handle those customers and just dial back on production. Ford and GM are already stashing cash away for a recession. One would assume the other companies are doing the same. If there is one coming, there has been plenty of notice for it.

Interesting is that China has agreed to allow Tesla to sell their auto's tax free in China saving the 10% sales tax. Gotta wonder how the other auto companies are going to respond to this favor-ism. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-china-tax/china-will-exempt-tesla-cars-from-purchase-tax-idUSKCN1VK1AU

Interesting piece in the NJ Star Ledger : Parkway picnic spot a relic of a past era Want to have a picnic on the Garden State Parkway? Only one spot is left to do so. That wasn't the case 60-plus years ago, when the NJ Highway Authority built 10 picnic areas for travelers to pull off the highway, take a break, eat lunch, or even -by 1970- cook burgers or hot dogs on electric grilles. The area offered picnic tables under groves of trees, running water and restrooms in some locations. I can't held but think of the parallel; electric cars are forcing a bygone practice; sitting for an hour roadside while your vehicle charges and you (unwillingly) spend your time idle.

I expect consolidation around the globe for all the auto makers as the recession takes hold.

Test Drove an Accord Sport 2.0 last week. Nice car but not worth a lot of hype. For a sedan, one of the better examples out there of a satisfying rig, just overrated. And by saying that, yes, it is true, sedans will continue to decrease, So accord will continue to see falling sales. It may have helped if Honda hadn't put an ugly wrapper on the car.

Can't blame them. Their biggest seller is the CR-V rather than the Accord, followed by all those crossovers that it seems almost everyone wants these days.

Piss poor styling, just Meh interiors and the coming recession due to trade wars and just a need for people to focus on paying down debt will cause for this adjustment to happen. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-oil-is-likely-to-be-chinas-next-target-as-trade-war-rages-energy-analysts-warn/ar-AAFz5vu?li=BBnbfcL Interesting read, but a glut of cheap oil with a global recession will cause massive adjustment to happen.