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I find it funny that your sarcasm sensor is constantly on the fritz.

I would prefer to drive than fly also, but auto travel is no where near as safe as air travel.

@balthazar While I am not a huge EV proponent, personally last few years starting to change my mind. I can see the change and the advantages. As a CONSUMER I can tell you, that personally when I will be in need of my next daily driver in about 6 years, EV will be on top of my shopping list. I was not considering EV just couple years back. I mean this is really kind of pointless argument, you and @ocnblu will not change your mind and at the moment, purely from economical standpoint, ICE still wins the numbers. However, like it or not EVs are coming. EVs are more efficient and when the cost of batteries will come down they will be able to compete easily with ICE vehicles. You can see that EVERY automaker has a number of new models in pipeline already and more will come. Only time will tell...

Here's a "photoshop" showing the very same concern, remedied for the 1974 (and up to '77) model year. The extreme taper was gone after 1973. The '73 quarter panel and trunk lid were one-year part numbers, with subsequent years raised with more of an abrupt drop-off, as shown. I like all of them myself, '73-'77.

Beautiful weather today. Planted some trees, enjoying a margarita now. Ordered some bbq, going to start a fire later. Enjoying isolation.

To clarify; I don't have a problem with EV vehicles existing, and they have some tangible advantages. Ocnblu doesn't seem to want them to exist, if I may be boldly assumptive. Now, an EV would not work for me- I need the same size truck I have now, I cannot park inside so I'd have to run an extension cord out to it daily, then coil it up in the morning/stow it (that might fall under "maintenance" for some), and I don't have $125,000 budgeted for a Bolinger. But that's not to say I wish to deny Bolinger to try and sell it's truck. That also doesn't mean I believe all the futurist unicorn fart babble that everything's wonderful and these EV start-ups are all in perfect health / going to last 100 years. There is wishful thinking and there is reality. You can't tell me anyone is making money on a production EV in the big picture.

Mouse plural is mice. I wonder if that applies to multiple computer mouse also, though? Mouses?

*oxen* I had a slight brain slip up. Stupid English language. - fox >foxes - ox >oxes? HELL NO! Lets phoque the minds of people... Ox >Oxen Ive got a mouses problem in my house. I wonder how many hice have mouses problems in my neighbourhood? Or would that be a RATT problem? (like the Geico commercial)

Yep, but so much more to see while driving....

To each their own of what they like. It is way better interior than a Tesla. I like it and am excited by the EV. But then you knew that!

Or a 4 runner.

LOL what mother tongue is this 1938 Minneapolis-Moline UDLX... built in response to demand from customers who needed to own one expensive machine for farm work AND trips to town.

And the Mach (er) E interior is just as off-putting as a Tesla. There's like NO style, just boxes and I-pads stacked together. Zero imagination what.so.EVER.

I will disagree with you and post this very good read on Transportation and the Carriage age. Transportation in America and the Carriage Age.pdf To quote a few we documented facts as discussed in this educational research paper: The carriage era lasted only a little more than 300 years, from the late seventeenth century until the early twentieth century. For much of that time, only the very wealthiest people could afford to own and maintain their own vehicle. In the United States, the real height of the carriage era lasted less than a century, from about 1850 to 1910. Primitive roads held back wheeled travel in this country until well into the nineteenth century, while the advent of the automobile doomed the horse-drawn vehicle as a necessity of life and transportation in the early 1900s. While there were still more than 4,600 carriage companies operating in the United States as late as 1914, by 1925 there were barely 150. By 1929, there were fewer than 90.** **For the source of these statistics and a thorough but readable account of the rise and fall of the American carriage industry, the following book is highly recommended: Kinney, Thomas A. The Carriage Trade: Making Horse-Drawn Vehicles in America. Baltimore and London: The Johns Hopkins University Press, 2004. At the turn of the nineteenth century, there were 21 million horses in the U.S. and only about 4,000 automobiles. End result, I expect the EV to do to ICE what ICE did to the Horse. EV is becoming more reliable, has far less maintenance and you can easily power it , recharge it just about anywhere. Yes it takes time and is slow, so was ICE in the early years. Yet look at ICE now. EV has already replaced most ICE as being faster, R&D is proving to build better and better batteries. So in time people will change to EVs just like they did with cell phones for Smartphones.

Way better looking than most of the current pathetic style at Chevrolet.

Easy to decipher: they don't have money for BS right now, they have to stick to the basics, and what WORKS.

Somehow I'm thinking they will build it, and it will have side windows the size of my phone and enough cargo space to fit a laptop.

Still looks like a giant Dustbuster front-end to me...a $30k Dustbuster

A. These are sticker prices; no one gets sticker (other than the C8). B. ALL top trims of ALL vehicles are stickered at mad levels. We sometimes talk here like it’s only GM for some reason.

When I went to the auto show a month ago or so the Trax was $31k, the Equinox $41k, the Blazer $51k....madness...

In a 25 mile radius from my zip code there are 370 brand new Corollas with only about twenty priced above $25k with maximum around $28k. The majority of Corollas are sold closer to $20k. BTW within same range there are Traxes sold at over $30k. There are 301 brand new Traxes and I see almost 90 of them priced over $25k. That's IMO is ridiculous,

That like a top of the line Corolla? Seems into Camry territory. I just can't imagine almost 30k for a generic compact FWD 4cyl sedan...

Yup, this is a shady "bait & switch" done by a lot of carmakers. I highly doubt you will ever see a Trailblazer L ($19,990) on a dealer lot... that is available only in FWD, and only in white, like a deliberate fleet vehicle that is lumped in with the private owner versions. What a sham. You can get the base Corolla in 4 bland colors, three more than the base Trailblazer. Chevy has done away with the Cruze, their former Corolla competitor, so the comparison is valid.

It starts from $19.6k, this one is fully loaded with bunch of options. You can load Trailblazer that starts at $19k up to $33k too

Yeah. WTF?! Shouldn't the Corolla be about $10K LESS?

$29 grand for a corolla?????

Boy that Mach (er) E is an ugly thing. It looks like a tenth grader car nut drew it up and then put Mustang stickers (taillights, pony emblems) on it. It's really pathetic.