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A '51 was almost my first car (too much frame rust / Monobilt unibody car) :

I so want to travel again when this Covid crap cleans up. Interesting project, this guy now lives in Columbus. Cameo of vintage Chevy truck is awesome.

With the new CT4-V and CT5-V, Cadillac has returned to big power:- CT4-V Blackwing gets 474 bhp / 445 lb-ft Twin-Turbo V6 (LF4) CT5-V Blackwing gets 668 bhp / 659 lb-ft Supercharged Pushrod V8 (LT4) This is definitely welcomed news for Cadillac V-Car fans who were completely underwhelmed by last year's CT4-V and CT5-V that boasted a whopping 10~25 hp gain over ordinary CT5 cars and base model Silverado pickups. The return to Pushrod power is encouraging, showing that GM is finally playing to it's architectural strength rather than chasing after other manufacturer's design weaknesses. Still, it begs the question as to why Cadillac (or GM in general) decided to downgraded the 3.0TT (LGY) engine for the CT5 from 404 bhp to 335 bhp (360 bhp in the CT5-"V*") which saved no money, gained no compression, gained no torque and gained no mpg over the same engine in the CT6 (LGW). It also represents a missed opportunity to evolve the promising 2.7T engine. The 2.7T -- as I have previously articulated -- could easily have made 420 bhp @ ~5300 rpm / 420 lb-ft @ ~2800 rpm with about 20~22 psi of boost from properly sized turbocharger like a G25-550D while providing markedly better drivability than any AMG 2.0T engine of similar output by virtue of its 36.5% greater displacement. It would have been a fitting powerplant for the CT4-V Blackwing and it would have captured the 4-cylinder performance crown for GM. This also confirms the abandonment of the hot-Vee 4.2L twin turbo DOHC V8 (LTA) used in the short lived CT6-V and which GM had declined to employ in the new Escalade, CT5-V Blackwing or any other suitable vehicle -- a total waste of R&D and tooling dollars. https://www.cadillac.com/future-vehicles/blackwing-reservation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg_hh8A78kM

I haven't driven a Challenger as of yet. A buddy/customer has a Hemi, but he wouldn't let me teach him how to do burnouts. ? From inside & out, I like the Challenger enough to buy one, yes. They look cool as hell. But if it was neutered enough like we're talking here, then no.

Black and white photo is goegeous though. Love the stepside in the background also. More 50's car love...

My grandfather had one just like that, although his was blue.

But... can it peel out?

Lastly, by 2050 its not like you’ll be in any condition to give two s*** about it @ocnblu. And I’ll take it as a compliment if my Flex will last that long before I drive the wheels off of it. You bitch about EV prices but you have pissed away more money on no nothing cars (outside of the Colorado with transmission issues). I could keep one EV for five years and still save money over what you would end up spending on three different ICE cars.

The "fake" V CT5 and CT4, as well as the abandonment of the CT6 got me from the CTS VSport into an Audi A8L 4.0T in Dec 2019. That and the absolutely dismal value retention of Audi flagship Sedans in this age of SUV stupor. It came down to a 4 year old A8L 4.0T with the flagship B&O audio system for $31.6K or a 3.5 year CT6 3.0T Platinum for 35K which didn't even have the rare Panaray system. Both cars had 32~37K mileage on the clock. It was no contest.

Abraham Lincoln made to look "modern...."

Who knows? But more to the point; must someone who thinks of themselves as an auto enthusiast BUY an example of every car they like in order to be able to express a preference??

So he is definitely a Florida Man.

Forget going to your doctor, you can do this at home...

Mustang Mach-E / '63 Impala ~

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/the-electric-vehicle-price-parity-discussion-is-flawed/

The new logo is beyond repugnant.

After months of rumors and spy photos, Cadillac finally spilled the beans on their new high-performance CT4 and CT5 Blackwing. These new models are planned to give German rivals a bruising when they start arriving at dealers later this summer. Here is what we know. CT4 Blackwing The smaller of the two Blackwing models starts with a twin-turbo 3.6L V6 engine with 472 horsepower and 445 pound-feet of torque. To achieve this power, Cadillac upgraded the various internals with titanium connecting rods and a revised crankshaft. Power is routed to the rear-wheels by either a six-speed manual or ten-speed automatic. Performance figures are impressive with a 0-60 mph time of 3.8 seconds (automatic transmission) and a top speed of 189 mph. In terms of handling, the CT4 Blackwing features an electronic limited-slip rear differential and latest version of Magnetic Ride Control 4.0 - Cadillac claims the latter is the quickest-reacting suspension in the world. A set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires keep the vehicle glued to the road, while optional optional carbon ceramic brakes bring it to a quick stop. Visually, the CT4 Blackwing uses a new grille with larger openings to gobble up more air; functional fender vents, front splitter, and a rear spoiler. A carbon fiber package that claims to reduce aerodynamic lift by 214 percent is an option. CT5 Blackwing For those who want something a bit more mad can direct their attention to the CT5 Blackwing. Under its hood lies a massaged 6.2L supercharged V8 engine with 668 horsepower and 659 pound-feet of torque. Again, power is routed to the rear-wheels via a six-speed manual or ten-speed automatic. 0-60 mph takes 3.7 seconds (automatic transmission) and can cruise towards 200-plus mph. What does this massaged V8 engine have? For starters. there's a larger supercharger (1.7-liters), aluminum cylinder heads, titanium intake valves, and improved airflow. Like the CT4, the CT5 Blackwing gets Magnetic Ride Control 4.0 and electronic limited-slip rear differential. A set of forged 19-inch wheels exclusive to the Blackwing come wrapped in a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. Outside, a new grille with larger openings to allow for more air, front splitter, and rear spoiler are the key changes to note. A carbon fiber package is optional. How Much? The CT4 Blackwing will set you back $59,990, and the larger CT5 Blackwing will cost $84,990. Both prices include a $995 destination charge. You can head down to your nearest Cadillac dealer to place a pre-order for either model right now. Source: Cadillac V-Series Blackwing: Ultimate Track Capability, Zero Compromise The 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing, two of the most powerful Cadillacs ever, raise the bar on performance The 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing represent the pinnacle of Cadillac performance and craftsmanship, leveraging championship-winning racing heritage to create the most track-capable Cadillacs ever, while continuing to set new standards for luxury and comfort. Leveraging a Cadillac racing history that began in 1949 and has seen sustained success over the last two decades, the V-Series Blackwing models were developed with driver engagement and performance at the top of mind. “V-Series Blackwing stands for the very highest level of execution from Cadillac and offers a distinctly American vision of performance: incredible power and luxurious craftsmanship, with absolutely zero compromise,” said Brandon Vivian, executive chief engineer, Cadillac. “We looked to our championship-winning racing heritage and brought an uncompromising eye for detail to create two cars that elevate the V-Series experience.” V-Series Blackwing vehicles build on the already excellent performance dynamics of the CT5-V and CT4-V to create the top tier of the Cadillac sedan lineup. Highlights include: Evolutions of the track-ready Cadillac 6.2L Supercharged V8 in the CT5-V Blackwing and 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 in the CT4-V Blackwing Upgraded TREMEC six-speed manual transmission standard Available 10-speed automatic transmission Electronic Limited Slip Rear Differential enhanced to reduce mass and improve on-track reliability Advanced suspension refinements providing greater body control and a more agile feel Magnetic Ride Control 4.0, the world’s fastest reacting suspension technology, sharpening the balance between daily-driving comfort and high-performance track capability Unique structural enhancements improving steering response and handling on the track Cadillac’s largest ever factory-installed brakes, available on the CT5-V Blackwing Extensive validation including 12-hour and 24-hour track testing Customizable integrated digital gauge cluster with Custom Launch Control and Performance Traction Management settings Liberating performance The CT5-V Blackwing uses an upgraded 6.2L supercharged V8 that, thanks to a higher flow air-intake and revised exhaust system, is rated at 668 horsepower (498 kW) and 659 lb-ft of torque (893 Nm), making it the most powerful production Cadillac ever. Each engine is hand-built at GM’s Bowling Green Assembly facility in Kentucky and features a signed engine builder’s plate. The CT4-V Blackwing sports an evolution of the Cadillac 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 that features revised control system software and an improved air intake system to create 472 horsepower (352 kW) and 445 lb-ft of torque (603 Nm). The turbos’ low-inertia (titanium-aluminide) turbine wheels enable more precise and responsive application of torque throughout the rev range. Highlighted features and output: CT5-V Blackwing: 6.2L Supercharged V8 - 668 hp, 659 lb-ft of torque GM-estimated top track speed: over 200 mph GM-estimated 0-60 mph: 3.7 seconds (automatic transmission) Most powerful Cadillac ever Air intake airflow is improved by 46 percent vs. the CTS-V Compact, high-output 1.7L four-lobe Eaton supercharger with small-diameter rotors that enable boost to be generated earlier in the rpm band for instantaneous response Rotocast A356T6 aluminum cylinder heads are stronger and handle heat better than conventional aluminum-alloy heads Lightweight titanium intake valves Track-capable wet-sump oiling and vent system with external oil separator and drainback CT4-V Blackwing: 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 - 472 hp, 445 lb-ft of torque GM-estimated top speed: 189 mph GM-estimated 0-60 mph: 3.8 seconds (automatic transmission) Most powerful and fastest Cadillac in the subcompact class Air intake restriction is improved by 39 percent vs. the ATS-V Turbocharger compressors matched for peak efficiency at peak power for optimal track performance Titanium connecting rods (manual transmission only) and revised crankshaft counterweights reduce main/rod bearing reciprocating loads Re-targeted piston oil squirters, which direct engine oil at the bottoms of the pistons, for improved temperature control The manifold-integrated water-to-air charge cooling system contributes to more immediate torque response Airflow routing volume is reduced by 60 percent when compared to a conventional design that features a remotely mounted heat exchanger Track-capable braking systems Both V-Series Blackwing models feature advanced high-performance braking systems that have been extensively track and road-tested. The exclusive V-Series Blackwing wheel designs enable an even larger rotor over the previous CTS-V, making the CT5-V Blackwing braking system the largest factory-installed brakes in Cadillac history. Additionally, an available carbon-ceramic brake package for the CT5-V Blackwing, featuring cross-drilled rotors, deliver several benefits including weight savings, durability and heat management. Highlighted features: CT4-V Blackwing: 14.96 x 1.34-inch (380 X 34 mm) front rotors and 13.4 x 1.1-inch (340.5 x 28 mm) rear rotors CT5-V Blackwing: 15.67 x 1.42-inch (398 X 36 mm) front rotors and 14.7 x 1.1-inch (373.5 x 28 mm) rear rotors Staggered Brembo® six-piston front calipers and four-piston rear calipers Available on the CT5-V Blackwing, the lightweight carbon-ceramic brake package significantly improves heat management, as well as greater resistance to wear under extreme conditions on the racetrack, while also reducing unsprung mass and rotating mass: 53-pound (24 kg) reduction in unsprung weight 62-pound (28 kg) reduction in rotating mass High-performance copper-free brake linings comply with California law and deliver superior fade resistance with an excellent pedal feel on and off the track Brake systems are integrated to each vehicles’ selectable drive modes, including brake pedal feel. Brake pedal feel can also be assigned within My-Mode and V-Mode Manual transmission is standard Rare for sport sedans today, a six-speed TREMEC manual transmission is standard on both vehicles. It has been optimized for each V-Series Blackwing vehicle to provide an engaging experience on the track or on the road. Details include: LuK twin-disc clutch for high torque capacity and great pedal feel Active Rev Matching accessible via a console mounted toggle switch to automatically adjust engine speed to match anticipated downshifts No-Lift Shift allowing the driver to shift gears without letting off the gas pedal. In the case of the CT4-V Blackwing, it allows the turbos to remain spooled, resulting in faster lap times Transmission and rear differential cooling – the manual and automatic transmissions use the same track-performance cooling system for greater track performance Clutch and brake pedals positioned for optimal driver ergonomics A physical barrier stop for the clutch pedal rather than a hydraulic master cylinder stop provides greater driver feedback during clutch operation A shorter shifter ratio than previous generations for more precise shifts Ten-speed automatic transmission The CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing are available with a 10-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission. It is tuned to complement the dual-personality experience of each respective model. Highlighted features: Tap Shift/Manual Mode allowing the driver to use integrated magnesium paddle shifters to select a gear and hold it until selecting the next gear, up or down Sport Mode providing real-time interpretation of driving conditions, adjusting the transmission to reduce shift busyness and improve performance, while retaining aggressive driving dynamics Twenty-four-hour track testing resulted in several improvements in response to the demands of a high-g track environment, including a unique oil pan design and priority valve changes Unique control systems with performance calibrations tailored for each model Ten forward gears offer the most available transmission speeds in each sedans’ respective segments, helping keep the engines within their optimal rpm bands, while also anticipating the next shifts Dynamic Performance Mode is calibrated specifically for V-Series Blackwing to deliver track focused shift patterns and automatically activates when high-g forces are experienced in Sport or Track mode An auxiliary pump primes the automatic transmission system from the time the vehicle door is opened for improved cold-shift performance. Both V-Series Blackwing models also feature an enhanced Electronic Limited Slip Rear Differential. It weighs less and has been optimized for each driving mode and each Performance Traction Management setting. Highlighted features: More control of the rear differential compared to traditional open and mechanical limited-slip differentials Enhances road grip by automatically allocating torque to the rear wheel with the most traction during hard cornering — with the capability of sending up to 1,475 lb-ft (2,000 Nm) of locking torque across the axle High-performance differential cooler An aluminum housing replacing the previous generation cast iron housing, reducing mass by more than 22 pounds (10 kg) Exclusive integrated heat exchanger for enhanced cooling Advanced suspension systems and strengthened chassis V-Series Blackwing combines the fourth generation of Magnetic Ride Control (MR 4.0), with improvements to the front and rear suspension systems. Stiffer spring rates, unique hollow stabilizer bars, higher-rate bushings and more enable a driving experience that isolates the driver from road imperfections, while also providing a precise, engaging connection with the road. MR 4.0 highlights: Immense performance envelope that gave Cadillac engineers the freedom to optimize everyday driving and aggressive track performance New accelerometers and an inertial measurement unit that transmit and process changes in road conditions four times faster than the previous generation system Secondary temperature maps that enable engineers to compensate for changes in damper fluid temperature for more consistent performance, even during performance driving Inertial measurement unit that provides more precise measurements of body motion relative to the wheel for more accurate readings under heavy braking, hard cornering and other driving conditions Improved magnetic flux control that creates a more consistent and accurate transition between rebound and compression Improvements to transient body control that allow the vehicle to remain more level while transitioning between corners MacPherson strut front suspension: Ride link includes an all-new 100-percent elastomer bushing on the CT4-V Blackwing and a retuned hydro bushing on the CT5-V Blackwing, for improved ride response Handling link has cross-axis ball joints for improved lateral control and quicker steering response Five-link independent rear suspension: Lateral link features stiffer bushings for faster response and increased cornering agility Toe link has cross-axis ball joints for increased stability and driver confidence Rear knuckles have increased stiffness for improved braking and better control during cornering Rear cradle mounts have been stiffened for optimum balance between road comfort and track performance V-Series Blackwing models are built on Cadillac’s award-winning rear-wheel drive architecture and feature unique structural enhancements including shock tower braces, an underside shear plate and thicker rear cross members to improve chassis rigidity. Along with the unique suspension elements, the stiffer structure enhances steering response, handling and the everyday driving experience. All-day performance, on and off the track The CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing build on Cadillac’s racing heritage and were developed to be track-capable straight from the factory. That includes an intensive validation program to ensure consistent performance during the most challenging track conditions. Validation for both models included: Twenty-four-hour continuous track testing with the available automatic transmission, available carbon fiber aero package, aluminum wheels and available carbon ceramic brake package Twelve-hour continuous track testing with the standard manual transmission, available carbon fiber aero package, aluminum wheels and available carbon ceramic brake package Functional aerodynamics, including an available carbon fiber aero package, contribute to the V-Series Blackwing models’ track prowess to support a variety of cooling needs for the cars’ respective engines, transmissions, axles and other supporting systems. Additionally, MICHELIN® Pilot Sport 4S tires developed exclusively for the V-Series Blackwing models contribute to their balance of track capability and road comfort. Highlights include: Unique, multiple-compound tread composition: Contact patch composed of three unique tread rubber compounds Racing “R compound” used for the majority of the tread Compounds optimized for wet traction, enhanced street and track durability, as well as rolling resistance The mold shape of the tire has been specifically engineered for Blackwing models to optimize contact with the road Tire sizes: CT5-V Blackwing tire size: 275/35ZR19 (front) and 305/30ZR19 (rear) CT4-V Blackwing tire size: 255/35ZR18 (front) and 275/35ZR18 (rear) Both V-Series Blackwing vehicles feature standard forged aluminum alloy wheels with staggered widths, front to rear. These forged wheels are stronger and lighter than conventional cast aluminum. Wheel sizes: CT5-V Blackwing: Front – 19 x 10 inches / Rear – 19 x 11 inches CT4-V Blackwing: Front – 18 x 9 inches / Rear – 18 x 9.5 inches Coming this summer Reservations for both vehicles open on Feb. 1, 2021 at 7:30 p.m. ET on Cadillac.com, with deliveries later this summer. Pricing begins at $59,9901 for the CT4-V Blackwing and $84,9901 for the CT5-V Blackwing. View full article

Yeesh / YUM!!

[sputter] WHAT?!? A '60 ??!?!??! - - - - -

goof, be serious for once

Oldshurst442 style :

I'd have to agree with that. If it were a CUV appliance, who cares.

A face only a '61 Dodge owner could love (^ it's a '62).

I highly doubt that. Mustang and Challenger will however.

Yikes, this gives "passing the sniff test" a new meaning.

Just fantastic. Are these the last great Cadillacs? Feeling wistful.

No I think YOUR (sic) wrong, I never drove a Bolt or a Leaf. I have driven a Model S, several Priiii and a few Sonata Hybrids. You'll find out in 2050 when you trade in your Flex. EV prices will never come to parity with ICE. ICE will be legislated out of existence by loons and ppl will be forced to hold onto their Flexes for a hell of a long time or start eating ramen, or cat food, to afford an EV.

I never see the Challenger as being Neutered except in it's current V6 form. I expect when they move to EV, it will get even more powerful and fun to drive.

Late model Chevy truck with "patina"

I think your wrong, you have stated in past threads Nissan Leafs you have driven and even a Chevrolet Bolt in relation to doing your job. As such, you have been touched by an EV especially in the bum!

Last post for awhile, back to slinging tools...

Ohhhhhhh absolutely. Although I know a number of really good guys who live in Florida. My attitude towards the country ahs changed. While my negative political feelings remain, I find a lot to love in normal rank and file Americans.

He then wrecked the same truck in a music video doing a Duke's of Hazzard style jump Dude is funny but crazy. He did something with a fire arm in a video to cause substantial face bleeding to himself He is funny...but a Darwin award waiting to happen.

'Monstermax'....Florida Man builds diesel Silverado boat. https://drivetribe.com/p/florida-man-drives-his-monster-dYuR1h-ZQGuTSjFscnDpYA?iid=a3kBRwz2QHqFQVKgzAyuOw

Start saying good-bye! Like NOW! Chryco. itself hasnt invested in anything EV related. Fiat hasnt invested in anything EV related either but I imagine anything electrical made in Italy is a no go either for more than 1 reason... (cue in burning Ferraris and Lamborghinis...and some of those fires are BECAUSE of the electricals...) Therefore... But really, Chryco. hasnt been 100% American for a loooooong time. Sure...the V8s are born and bred in Auburn Hills...but...the skeleton that is that particular platform has a strong German ancestry. It has become an American citizen and pledged allegiance to the flag all these years. And...it ditched the very cheap American interior for a much improved ITALIAN blessed interior, because 'twas under Marchionne's tutelage and suggestions that the interiors of these cars be improved and WERE improved. And...the MOST IMPORTANT detail here is that Tim Kuniskis HINTED in NOT so many words that DODGE is here to stay in a STELLANTIS merger. By saying that the performance of Dodge's muscle cars are gonna CONTINUE on but with electric motors and batteries, he is in fact STATING that Dodge will continue on as an ELECTRIC MUSCLE CAR BRAND... But lets be honest here. If it werent for Sergio's buyout, Chrysler and Dodge would have been dead 10 years ago. Sergio pissed on that opportunity to make something big out of FCA, WITH Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep LEADING the way for Fiat, Lancia and Alfa Romeo instead of the other way around, but it doesnt matter, Fiat S.p.A. was what saved Chryco from the Grim Reaper. Now its France's Group PSA that is tasked to save Chryco's butt... Lets be even MORE real here. The next gen Charger and Challenger will probably be on a Peugeot/Citroen platform... Unless of course the French owners are less pompous than the previous Italian (and German) owners and let Auburn Hills contribute. But who are we kidding here? The French to be LESS pompous than either the Italians and the Germans? HA! But...Im gonna post a song by a fellow New Jersian and I will NEVER SAY GOOD-BYE...to Dodge if Dodge delivers me a NEW AGE muscle car regardless what powers it and what underpins it.

Please show us on the ICE where the bad EV improperly touched you!

It appears gm is going to challange Norways lead for EV adoption with their new super bowl adds covering their new auto's. Last year was all about the Hummer, now it seems to be expanding.

This is already on YouTube in about 5 to 10 variations. Take your pick. And just because Ah-nold got his vaccine. He always says goofy sh!t. While not quite "Hasta la vista, baby," this "Come with me if you want to live" quip may also get bronze plated.

I need less stuff / junk! There's 6 bays here; 2 on the house (no room for autos), and 4 in the back ('40, '59, '64). Have been in 'purge mode' for about 2 years now, but it takes time. Making progress tho- I've thrown away (or sold) stuff this winter I've had for 30-40 years. Just tossed my pay stubs from '89-'00 in the wood stove last night. The 2500HD doesn't fit in any of the bays due to the mirrors (even folded). She's a big 'un. It's a 90-degree turn in for the Malibu, and while the Mrs. used to do that back in the day, that was before a 3rd vehicle was here (Jeep in the background) - it might be a 5-point turn with that there.

GM is using Colbalt free battery packs as is Tesla who has switched over and Ford. Those same men who help destroy the planet drilling oil and producing increased CO2 will find jobs putting up Solar, Wind and other awesome GREEN energy production sites.

Yes, the LAST Great ICE Cadillacs. The Future will be bright as we get even faster EVs for everyone to enjoy!

The Challenger can't have much time left given how old the platform is and CAFE and emissions are issues. They could do a Georgio platform car, or make an EV I guess. Depends on what Stellantis sees as the future. Mustang will always be around, but I suspect the Mach-E will be outselling the traditional gas coupe within a few years. Mustang has that low start price and convertible they push on rental fleets in Florida. Camaro I think is a question mark because there are already rumors that 2023/2024 will be the end of the Camaro. And these Blackwings are the last new gas V-series Cadillacs. Although very possible that when all this stuff goes EV, that there is a Camaro EV in the 2025-2030 time frame, but coupe sales are pretty low, Chevy would be better served with an EV sedan at a more affordable price point.

This Gorgeous yellow convertible belonged to my friend Mark. I knew him from the buckeye Miata club where we spent a lot of time racing cars together....SCCA and a bunch of other venues....also a member of Central Ohio Wood Turners. He just sadly passed away from a heart attack. My 8 year old niece Holly got thrown from a horse, she is pretty banged up but will be Okay. My Cousin Linda is about my age, she passed away a couple of days ago from breast cancer. One of my very best friends from High school has Covid and she is not doing real well. Been a week! And it's only Tuesday. Picture of my friend Mark...I will miss him!

Racist Hatred!

Because you were going to buy a Challenger otherwise? So making a profit is an issue now? Maybe GM should just go back to volume, volume, volume, over profits so that they can repeat their mistakes of the 90s and early 2000s And I thought a certain other user here was swift to move the bar to fit his narrative.

I remember reading somewhere several months ago that FCA had tried to negotiate a deal with Faraday to supply their skateboard platform. I wonder if that is still a thing? But yeah...if Stellantis does NOT have an answer for a more or less big, Dodge muscle car type platform for American muscle car type feels, then I would say good-bye tp Dodge myself! I did say that Stellantis (Dodge) has to deliver on a new age MUSCLE CAR in order for me to accept a new Charger and Challenger.

FINALLY MOPAR's acronym gets it right. Seeing that the internal combustion ENGINE is more of an engine rather than a motor and an electrc motor is well...a motor. MOPAR could now make sense! MOTOR PARTS indeed!