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'A nice cruiser but those old cars are slow compared to modern cars!' - - - - -

Why does it matter? Maybe the downvotes have to do with the “logic” itself more so than anything else. And yes, while looks are subjective, some things are obvious like trying to say that the 1st Gen CTS is the best looking CTS.? That thing is hideous and that has nothing to do with “beauty being in the eye of the beholder”. That is a $100K Mercedes that looks something that is a cross between the last gen Sebring and a 99 Intrepid. It does not scream luxury from the outside at all. And here I thought Benz was done with Chrysler/Dodge lol.

The CC looks much better than the EQS...the EQS is very derivative of 80s futuristic concept cars from several mfgrs...it's got the severely dated cab forward proportions, with the base of the A-pillar at least 6 inches forward of the door opening--barf...

EQS is a failure out of the gate and will only really gain a few badge people as it for sure will not have conquest sales.

The largest battery in any current EV and the most aerodynamic production car ever. It will have the longest range, the WLTP cycle may be optimistic, but it it should still do 400 miles per charge easily. Although I think EV range is over rated, people aren't driving 300-400 miles per day 5-7 days a week, which would be 100,000 miles a year. 95% of people would be fine everyday with a 100 mile range.

I am not a fan of the EQS styling, too much tear drop in the name of aerodynamics. The S-class is a much better looking car, and a more expensive looking car, I think Mercedes should stick with their 3-box design look and sacrifice .03 cD in the name of styling. The EQS has an amazing interior though, and the range is the best there is, and their battery can do multiple acceleration runs without over heating, unlike Tesla. I am hoping EQE and the SUVs look better because the battery/motor combo is strong.

Jeez, I suppose that's possible, I've heard of that happening... tho I don't believe my dealer is anywhere near that cutthroat. They are very highly rated... but that would absolutely SUCK. Great, now I have to worry about that...

Why would you assume that? Tesla has different motor ratings in the 3 / S, and even Mercedes uses different engines in the e / s. There'd be little reason to have separate adjacent models on the same platforms using the same motor outputs.

If so, the range undoubtedly will be worse there. Then why did you mention a false range claim more than once in this very thread? Mercedes already copied it from it's old stable-mate; Chrysler. It's not only not new, it's QUITE old.

Sources are predicting the eqs's 478 mile range will be adjusted to under 400 miles in the U.S.. Tesla claims the Model S Plaid+ range is 520 miles. They're trying to challenge the dominate Tesla; Daimler needs to have a 600 mile range out of the box and as a base. Then offer a 750-mile range topper.

It looks very FWD w/ cab forward styling. The nasty A-pillar treatment reminds me of a Honda Civic sedan from 10 years ago...

It has the longest range of any EV, the best interior of any EV, biggest screen of any car. They got a lot right. Personally I am not a fan of the rounded off exterior styling, it doesn't have classic Mercedes proportions which I prefer.

I just cannot get on board that rear 1/4 of the vehicle. It just doesn't work at all for me.

I like the rear in profile also...sleek and sloped. They don't need a squared off CUV/SUV rear on this, they have the XT6 and Escalade for those that want boxy practical.

And the best part - it really happened!

The more I look at the LYRIQ, I am really liking the front end and the funky rear end has grown on me due to being so different. A love / hate rear end, but good especially when you look at it straight on from the rear.

This reminds me of a bigger version of the future police cars used in Demolition man. I will totally agree with @balthazar that this auto is so dated now and it has not even gone on sale! GM did this better. GM Ultralite

WTF? Potentially governing a state with almost 40 million inhabitants, and where about 1 in 8 Americans live? Check this out

SpaceX launches 4 astronauts to space station, nails rocket landing. "It's the third crewed launch for Elon Musk's company in less than 12 months. Crew-2's launch was one for the history books. It marked several firsts, including the first time that people have flown on a used Crew Dragon and with a used Falcon 9 first stage, and the first time that two different international astronauts have ridden in the capsule. The Crew Dragon vehicle that launched this morning, known as Endeavour, also lifted off in May of 2020, carrying NASA astronauts Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley to the ISS on the Demo-2 test flight, SpaceX's first-ever crewed mission. In a nice bit of additional symmetry, Behnken is McArthur's husband." SpaceX launches 4 astronauts to space station, nails rocket landing | Space

I find it funny how passionately people argue and downvote each other about looks of one car or another when it comes to their favorite or disliked brands. Isn't it in a few other threads same people argued that the beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

And skipping the fact that if we were talking about Cadillac putting out an EV sedan before they released a EV CUV, we would be hearing about how Cadillac dropped the ball by releasing an EV for the low demand sedan market and not putting out a CUV/SUV first. Also skip the fact that one would be paying $100K+ for a Mercedes interior underneath a VW CC skin when they get an EQS.

It's all fun in the Sun but in Dayton we had thunder snow today and us and Cincinnati broke snow totals for the last 120 years. Welcome to the Miami valley spring time ?

The 1st gen block shaped CTS? Seriously? Gen 2 was far and away design wise and it had a much cleaner look. You don’t even know which gen you’re trying to prop up here. 1st Gen 2nd Gen I mean, I know only come out to troll when it’s about a Cadillac but maybe you should just sit this one out. For you @smk4565, since you claim that Benz designs always go from concept to production like hot butter. https://www.motortrend.com/news/mercedes-vision-eqs-ev-design/

The CUVs are vaporware and that’s what I’m talking about. The EQS is pure bore on the outside but I guess if you like the look of a 2015 Volkswagen CC, that’s fine but at an expected $100K price tag, I expect a little more in the way of distinction on the outside. And yes, for more than $100K, the S-Class is boring as hell on the outside. Sorry, but this cannot be unseen once it is seen. 2022 S-Class 2019 Genesis G90 2019 Genesis G70 No doubt the Benz has a nice interior, as it should. However, the exterior is boring &#036;h&#33; and if you have to put a two tone paint job on it to make it look better, then it proves me right.

Pursuing a couple engines rebuilder options. Guy #2 has a year backlog and is priced significantly higher than I hoped to go. Guy #1 states he should be able to take it in about 4 months. This is the same builder who's working on my brother's 1100 hp Pontiac motor. I'm going to work on other sub-systems in the meantime, while also working on more engine pieces as far as disassembly/cleaning/painting.

EQS is heavily dated, it's the offspring of a '99 Chrysler 300 and a fat slug.

It goes on sale this summer, so EQS is not vaporware. S-class doesn't look boring, especially in Maybach trim with the 2-tone paint. But they on purpose use a conservative design because it ages better than bold, outrageous designs that look dated really fast. If you look at Cadillac, the Gen 1 CTS has aged the best because it had the most simple design, it still looks better today than the Gen 2 or 3 CTS or something ungainly like the XTS. The downside to the EV revolution is weight, hopefully they can find a way to make these EV's lighter over time.

You mean that vaporware we’ve been hearing about for years now? Yet it looks like a lesser priced Genesis on the outside. Much like the EQS, the S-Class is just boring on the outside.

Looks far better as a CUV than the EQS does as a sedan.

Apparently, so does this Pepsi can! Its be-uooou-tefull!

I like the rear. The taillight treatment is something new and different, not the same’ol, same’ol CUV rear....they are taking chances with the styling front and rear..

No pics (other than OEM); it’s still in transit. RE ordering; that’s true... except custom orders for ‘21 are closed already (they are for the mid-size pickups). OEM :

This is really gorgeous Iron. I like the new wave of Lincoln Suv's and Like what Audi and Volvo are doing as well. Some really cool Suv's being built. That being said, this thing strikes me as an eleven. On a scale of one to ten...

• Prepped the fuel filter bracket for paint • straightened the valve cover rails • took off the water pump. Some interesting sub-oceanic formations in there :

Gen 1 CTS and the XLR are the 2 best looking Cadillacs of the past 20 years. GM design since Ed Welburn left has gone downhill. I think the Lyric is over styled in back, the front half looks fine, but a lot of car companies try to make EV’s look overly modern and that isn’t what sells and that is why a lot of EVs have had bad sales numbers.