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Have to say that I agree with this story about how Chevrolet has beaten Porsche. 10 Things That Make The Chevy Corvette E-Ray Better Than The Porsche 911 (topspeed.com) #10 - Corvette is more powerful, 495 base horsepower compared to 911 GTS 473 horsepower. #9 - Corvette E-Ray is faster than the Porsche, Corvette is 2.5 seconds 0-60 where Porsche is 2.8 seconds 0-60 automatic, 3.2 seconds if manual. #8 - Utility and space management, Corvette is better than Porsche for interior room and cargo space. #7 - Affordability, Corvette E-Ray starts at $102,900 compard to Porsche 911 starts at $107,000 and if you go 911 Carrera S that is more equal to the E-Ray, starting price is $124,000 making the Corvette E-Ray the best value for performance cars. #6 - Fuel-efficient - E-Ray is more fuel efficient than the Porsche. #5 - Hybrid, Corvette Hybrid is here today, Porsche says they will have a Hybrid in the future. #4 - Stealth Mode - Corvette has this that allows you to drive away in pure electric mode staying very quiet where Porsche does not have this so the loud exhaust will be there to wake everyone up. #3 - Magnetic Ride Control 4.0, faster auto adjusting suspension than the Porsche PASM auto adjusting suspension. #2 - Fuel tank size, Corvette E-Ray has a 18.5 gallon gas tank compared to Porsche 16.9 gallon gas tank. #1 - PowerTrain Warranty - Corvette E-Ray has a 5 year / 60,000 mile warranty, Porsche gives you a 4 year / 50,000 mile warranty.

Recalls are annoying. Crashes and casualties are worse. Ford could have waited a few months to weed out all the bugs to avoid recalls.

He was referring to the S-Class in his hypothetical numbers scenario. "and the S63 is V8 with 800 hp, 1000+ lb-ft or whatever the number is. "

If you have followed Mercedes for the last 30 years, you'd realize they will have an AMG version of most everything and the platform mate is getting the same outputs, like the C Class and GLC Class. There will be an AMG, because it's easy money for them and it will be the identical powertrain to the C63 which is; AWD 671hp/752tq. That's just how Merc operates.

@oldshurst442 @ccap41 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Is No Mere Carbon-Copy Kia (caranddriver.com) Seems while they are not ready to give any firm statistics, the N Performance Edition will be north of 600 HP and they are definitly not just coping the Kia EV6 GT which is only 576 HP.

The C8.R edition is just a sticker and badge trim job on the Stingray Z51 to commorate the race bred C8R. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-chevrolet-corvette-c8-imsa-gtlm-championship-edition/ Let's just say the Chevrolet Corvette C8.R race cars did pretty well in the 2020 IMSA series, taking home three different titles. To commemorate this, Chevy whipped up a special edition package for the 2022 Corvette Stingray: the 2022 Corvette Stingray IMSA GTLM Championship Edition... ...The foundation for the Championship Edition is the Stingray 3LT Z51 in either Accelerate Yellow (to honor the No. 3 car) or Hypersonic Gray (the No. 4), to which the special edition adds a $6,595 bump. That upcharge nets buyers contrasting accent stripes—gray for the yellow car, and yellow for the gray—and a bevy of special touches. A Carbon Flash-painted high-wing spoiler, yellow brake calipers, black-finished "trident" wheels with "Jake" center caps, Carbon Flash-painted mirrors, black rockers, and splash guards are the main pieces. And don't forget the large "C8.R" decal on the flank. Chevy will offer a GT3 class race car for the public to buy. But it wont be a road legal car. It will be a legit race car whoever wants to buy it to race it legally on a race track. It will be 95%-99% like the C8R but with a modified 5.5liter from the race car. Not from the Z06's car. Although the race engine and the road car's 5.5 liter are about 90%-95% the same... https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38224296/chevy-corvette-z06-gt3r-revealed/ Customers will soon be able to race the C8 Corvette Z06 GT3 race car that uses the same chassis as the road car and a modified version of the 5.5-liter V-8. Chevrolet Racing will offer a Z06 GT3.R customer race car starting in 2024. It uses the same aluminum chassis as the C8 Z06 road car and a modified version of the 5.5-liter flat-plane-crank V-8. Customers will be able to race in the IMSA WeatherTech Series and other GT3 racing series with the Z06 GT3.R. Just to tie this in to what we have been talking about, the Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a road legal, pure track machine that one could race on the track, but also drive on the street. Chevrolet would have to take the Z06, delete all the heavy GT luxury options, cut more weight off the chassis by using more extensive use of carbon fibre...use ACTIVE aero. This is what an RS version of the GT3 is all about. The C8 Z06 GT3.R had it been road legal by adding road legal stuff to it such as headlights... would be a further step of being a more RAW road legal track car of a GT3 RS Porsche. Just to give you an idea of what the Porsche GT3 RS is. order of track car rawness that strays farther than a GT car 1. GT3 equals Z06 2. Z06 with Z07 package 3. GT3 RS 4. Z06 GT3R if it were road legal with added street legal and necessary equipment https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-gt3-gt3-rs GT3 GT3 RS CarandDriver ranks the Z06 as the track car to buy...but that is because the Z06, or any Corvette for that matter, is a FRACTION of the price of the Porsche's starting price...any 911... But when discussing driving dynamics of the track cars in question, the weight and the weight transfers around corners and everything that a track car should be doing right, the Gt3 and the GT3 RS have the Corvette Z06 beat. Some performance metrics and the Z06 actually beats any of the 911 GT variants, but as an over all track performance car, its the 911 that edges out the victory. Its not a bad thing that the Corvette loses to the 911 this way. Its not a bad thing that the Z06 beats the 911 in some of the performance metrics. Its just a testament to how focused the 911 really is as a sports car. Its a testament to how much R&D is put into the development of the 911. Hoe refined and tuned the 911 is and how dedicated Porsche IS to the 911. Its also a testament to Corvette engineering as to how serious they are in giving the people a sports car that is sooooooooo close to a Porsche 911 at a FRACTION of the price. And when we talk about aftermarket tuning for Corvettes for the SAME amount of money spent on a Corvette modifying it as one would buy a brand new 911, the Corvette WILL spank the 911's a$$. But factory to factory, the 911 is still THE sports car to beat. No doubt!

I defend the Corvette when I see the Vette be disrespected. But I am not a blind fanboy either. The Vette has its place in the sportscar world. Its even benchmarked by Porsche although Porsche will NEVER admit to it. But I dont like reading nonsense disrespecting another giant in the sportscar world. Whether it be a mid-engined V8 Ferrari or Porsche 911. All three, Vette, Ferrari and 911, all have cemented their place in the sportscar world and all three do their thing their own way. None are better than the other. Each has its own path and an enthusiast need NOT choose one over the other, but an enthusiast SHOULD enjoy either of them for what they are!

*SIGH* Apples to Oranges What Porsche 911 are we comparing the E-Ray to? Base Porsche 911? ALL of the trims? It seems the article jumps from trim to trim when comparing the 911. And a hybrid 911 is not available yet. Soon. But not yet. The E-Ray looks to be a great C8 Vette, but lets wait and see what Porsche can and will do with a hybrid 911 and THEN let us see IF an E-Ray is better than a Porsche 911... Because of where Im sitting at, a Corvette C8 Stingray, Z51, Z06 and an E-Ray are GREAT competitors to the 911, and of course for thousands of dollars less, but...the 911 still remains just a smidgen better than a C8 in ALL categories except price tag. But...comparing apple Vette C8 to apple 911 as in the Z06 and GT3. The Z06 does its best to best the 911 GT3 and comes oh sooooooo close to besting it. And it actually does best it in some metrics. And because of that, we have to take the time to bow and applaud and give a standing ovation to the Corvette's engineers that have come THAT close in dethroning Porshe and its 911 and the 911 GT3 and never forgetting that the mid-engined C8 is the Corvette's engineer's FIRST ATTEMPT. But...the 911 being the 911, and Porsche being Porsche, in some other metrics, metrics that define what a GT3 and Z06 should be and behave, the 911 GT3 outshines the Z06 easily. And...there is a trim level ABOVE the GT3. Its the GT3 RS and the Corvette Z06 does NOT have an answer to that trim... Not yet at least... But until then, the 911 will forever be just one smidgen step better than a Corvette C8. The Z07 package is NOT an RS equivalent. The RS is a RAW track car but the Z06 no matter what aeropackage we add on it (Z07), the Z06 still remains a GT car. Its got GT car luxuries. To be a RAW track car, the Z06 has to LOSE some of the heavy luxury GT car items... A Corvette is many things. Many good things. And with the C8, the Corvette has become even MORE and BETTER things. But Porsche and its 911 are just...THE standard that ALL sports car makers benchmark. And for good reason. And the C8 is one of these sportscars that a 911 GT3 RS no less, was benchmarked after. And Corvette engineers have come close, very close in besting the 911. But Corvette development lacks the one area where Porsche just obliterates everybody else, including Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren and all others. Porsche develops the 911 in ALL KINDS of flavours. Until the Corvette has as many engineered flavours as the 911 has, the Corvette will ALWAYS lag just a smidgen behind the 911. And the irony of that article is that the journalist cherry picks the various 911 trims... The 911 is highly customizable to fit what the owner wants of his 911. THAT is a BIG plus and an advantage for the 911 versus all other sports cars straight from the factory. The Corvette is that too, highly customizable, but its done aftermarket, not at the factory level. This comes at a price for the 911. But the 911 commands that price and 911 owners WILLING dish it. Its NOT a fault. Its a strength. Just click on the link below to visit the site and then click on all the various 911 trims to see all the specs. https://www.cars.com/research/porsche-911-2023/trims/ Until Corvette has as many trim levels as the 911, then we could talk about the Corvette being "better". IMO, the article stating the E-Ray is better than "a 911" is just lazy journalism attempting to sound like its meaningful in some way. (Yes I read it)

See my post about which trim level will sell the most. Hint? It's not anything AMG or top level. It'll be that base level 4 banger they sell in the highest volumes, so this "going to be" just doesn't hold that much water when everyone knows the base level is their bulk mover. BTW, since we are cherry picking 0-60 times but throwing in the lowest trim XT5 numbers against top spec trims like the Acura RDX A-Spec, the 3.6L V6 XT5 has a 6.4 sec. 0-60 time.

There are plenty of spy shots of the vehicle testing and even the pros are assuming the powertrain. Yes, it's an assumption but it's pretty ignorant to think otherwise with Merc. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1136745_2024-mercedes-benz-amg-glc-63-s-e-performance-coupe-spy-shots https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2024-mercedes-amg-glc-63-coupe-spied-as-high-riding-alternative-to-the-new-c-63-208232.html

Obviously they are going to do AMG versions since they do AMG everything, and obviously it will be the same as the C-class since they are mechanical twins and last generation had identical power. Just like the E-class and GLE have identical powertrains. So clearly the GLC AMG's will copy this.