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Sorry But... with a nickname like Golden Boy, narcissism might still work for De La Hoya. OK...De La Hoya and my response to that: DE LA RENTA

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^^^ By THAT time, charging EVs would most probably be wireless... By THAT time, charging EVs would most probably done on the fly while driving. By THAT time, the poor single mother wont be driving a ratty 19 year old Corolla, she will be driving a ratty 19 year old Prius. A technicality as a Prius is an ICE hybrid. Probably banned because it does roll with ICE. OK...she will be driving a ratty 19 year old Chevy Bolt. More realistically, she will probably be driving a 19 year old ratty Cadillac Lyriq as we all know, poor people in North America still want to look good so she would rather be seen in a Cadillac rather than a Chevy... (making your scenario more real...) Besides, depreciation after a decade gets ALL cars. ALL cars are dirt cheap...and in THIS scenario, we are talking about 2 decades of rattiness... City planners and guvment officials NEVER plan ANYTHING out logically. We all know that... But what does THAT have to do with banning ICE vehicles in the very near future. You do know that is happening, right?

Whats better than a Hellcat (Red-Eye) Charger? A Chrysler 300C SRT8 Hellcat (Red-Eye) ! Its sad that the 300C SRT8 stopped being a thing in the US for close to a decade now. Its sadder that the 300 will never be a Hellcat.

That works! But Im more of a mid-sized/fullsized muscle car guy although with that magnetic ride the C8 has got, its much more luxury plush making you forget you are in a sports car. Like I said, the C8 works just fine!

Ferrari engineered 6 cylinder under the hood too... and it makes a sweet sweet sound. LIKE a Ferrari. I wouldnt buy it though. I would much much rather have that 80 thousand dollah Challenger with that sweet sweet supercharged Hemi.

Minor detail...but horses and buggies had THOUSANDS of years... And with a blink of an eye, the industrial revolution of which the automobile is very much part of...CHANGED the way humans live. And yes...the automobile, tractor, 18 wheeler, delivery panel van, limousine VIP transport, assault tank, replaced the horse and buggy. The tractor is PART of the industrial revolution. The tractor HAS an internal combustion engine and is PART of the automobile revolution. The Model T was also a tractor BTW...and Balthy...you are the one to teach me that. So...

By 2070... You could also say that many, many...many city centers would be banning new or old, ICE in their territory. I know that Montreal has kicked that idea around about banning ICE in the downtown area in the near future. THAT concept is already in effect with diesel in many parts of China and Europe. Many forget that this EV thing is NOT just a market acceptance thing. The market might not accept it, but what choice does the market have when the very vocal minority is pressuring governments to kill ICE. And on top of that very vocal minority, the ones that delve into EVs, most of those folks SWEAR to NEVER return to ICE. And that very vocal minority, is very much so PERSUADING ICE folk to DITCH ICE. How do you think Tesla gets all those sales? (that minority WILL eventually get to be a majority.) This new generation of kids, the ones that are starting to drive NOW and the younger gen...dont see a future with ICE... Tesla doesnt do much advertising. Their MARKETING is basically THE product (vehicle AND charging infrastructure) AND WORD OF MOUTH... Dont laugh... I have heard rumours that NYC and LA also have been pondering the idea of banning ICE in their centers sometime in the future... and if THAT happens...it dont matter how many ICE vehicles there are in circulation... GM and others are HAPPILY readying the buying public to buy EVs from a future like that...

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https://www.cncda.org/wp-content/uploads/Cal-Covering-4Q-19.pdf Hybrid/electric vehicle market share in 2019: 13.2 percent BEVs have a 7.7% market share...but electrics as a whole...have a 13.2% market share. PLUG-IN hybrids...need to be plugged in... Luxury SUVs in California have an 11% market share. Luxury and Sports cars in California have that same 11%. Electrics, ALL of them...have high price tags in the LUXURY side of pricing. Any which way you slice it, the point of view I share regarding EV market share in California being pretty high is more accurate than a point of view stating its just OK... And even if its "just OK", EV sales, in California, are only going to go up.

Its in California... EVs are EVERYWHERE... I know we wanna bash EVs every PHOQUING chance we get, and I know we wanna spew the 1-2% of the market, but... in California, EV market share is pretty high... So...that is why the shiny red balloon his way. In other words...he deserves getting shyte on. He shouldnt get praised for his nonsense...

And the Audi had those pure track tires plus the V10. (Not the 1st entry R8...) The Porsche was the Carrera S with carbon ceramic brakes while the Corvette was just a Stingray Z51, with street tires. No carbon ceramic brakes. One tiny step above base. And no camber set for the track... Goes to show you how great the C8 is and how greater its gonna be(come) with future versions. My only question would be: is the Carrera S the equivalent of the Z51? I think the Carrera S is a tad more sports car focused than the Z51 but the Z51 is more GT focused... Not quite the same. But this is where Porsche shows how much more refined, defined and precise the 911 is over the Corvette. The 911 has many many iterations all designed for a specific task. The Corvette has only 3 to do the same thing as the 911 does with dozens of versions. I get it though. The Vette is a mass produced race machine designed to be sold at higher numbers with lower price tags. The 911 is meant to be a high enough produced race machine (not as high as the Vette) to have multiple versions to specialize in certain racing areas, to be personalized and to be sold with higher price tags because of the specialized and personalized nature. Each has carved out a nice niche for each other where they both have their perspective buyers and fan base. What Porsche does is incredible in how they achieve those performance figures (efficiency) and Corvette is also incredible because of how they achieve their performance figures...but you have the extra criteria of a selling price point. And yes, the Z06 will be a beast. Active aero is rumoured. THAT is gonna be huuuuge for the Corvette. No Corvette has had full on active aero. Pass through air, sure, but not full blown, 100% active aero.

Im getting a heart attack just by looking at that thing. Not saying it aint good. Well...Ill be honest...too much shyte going on there, but yeah.

I agree to that sentiment above 100%, about the interior and dashboard and all that. However, for me, the exterior is what counts more. I know when you are driving the vehicle, its the interior that you get to experience the most all those years with the car, but, when you are walking up to the car, its the exterior you are getting to see. That love at first sight feeling. The, I cant wait to drive the shyte out of you feeling... When you are washing the vehicle, its the exterior you are caressing and rubbing and soaping up and feeling the contours of... In other words, for me at least, she's got to look good on the outside. Beauty for a car, unlike for a human, beauty being skin deep is a good thing for me. And what I seek for when Im cruising for a new ride. Yes...a car's exterior has got to invoke that passion. I could live with a cup holder/button/gear selector/RPM gauge not being in the "optimal" position. I could learn to cope with it, to adjust. But if the vehicle Im spending my hard earned money is not exactly to my liking on the outside, then I aint buying it. The next criteria for me would be on its driving characteristics. Looks and driving characteristics easily 1 and 2. And they are both interchangeable. And third would be interior and interior ergonomics.

En Francais, my dear friend, group is spelled...groupe.

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What if these cars had a racing series dedicated only to them? Like how the Porsche 944s, Camaros and Miatas had. Would that make a difference in ya'lls perception? Because, Porsche 944s and Miatas of their day werent all that fast...but were/are still revered by...um...car enthusiasts. Like...arent we car enthusiasts here? Because we all act like it but then we shyte on this car... I get that this is a Toyota, and I applaud and appreciate the shytting , but at heart, this car is a dedicated sports car through and through. Yes...with a torqueless 4 banger. Subaru should have offered their WRX engine in it while Toyota could have at least tried to shoehorn their BMW sourced inline 6 from their Supra for a hyper trim 86 negating the need to LS swap. But at the end of the day, the Toyobarus are purebred sportscars... And THAT is a good thing!

Am I the only one to actually like this car? OK...NOT the Toyota, the Subie. But that is just me being douchie against Toyota. There is a reason why I like this car: ITS A 2 DOOR SPORTS CAR IN AN ERA WHEN COUPES AND/OR SPORTS CARS ARE NON-EXISTENT. And THAT to me is more than enough reason to like this car. I do not know if you guys know that I HATE HATED the 5th gen Camaro. Well...I saw 3 today randomly. Almost back to back to back going to work. 2 6 cylinder models and 1 SS. The SS made some lovely V8 sounds as I heard it while driving in back of it ....and I felt something that I havent felt in a looooong time. I miss when 2 door coupes and sports cars were all over the damned place and not some mythical unicorn in a sea of CUVs. We should be thankful these exist...especially from appliance company #1 Toyota. And no worries, those folk who want a little more ooomph from their Toyobarus https://elementtuning.com/monster-86-subaru-brz-and-toyota-86-v8-conversion/

Im sorry. I thought I was being funny. I didnt mean to twist a knife into the heart... If its any consolation, the Bruins wont get past Tampa. And although I hate the Habs, I do want them to get #25 before any other Canadian team wins the Cup and that wont be happening either this year.

I LOVE the use of Blues too... by the Canucks (in a way the Bruins couldnt last year) wink wink

I just saw that. Very funny. Nice interior indeed. Yes, less like a prison I must admit.

I was just about to write that. But with a 1950s and 1960s angle. But you are 100% right. From the 1950s to the '60s to the '70s and well into the early '80s. I think it slowly got crappy in the 1980s when cheap gray plastics entered the fray. And then black was the go to colour choice.

I actually like that lime green. Of course those lime green touches have to be in a vehicle worthy of that kind of extrovertedness. A Mercedes AMG GT for example. Because we are talking about a Mercedes interior at this point in time...