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    True that styling is subjective... But...you dont find it a genuinely ugly vehicle for reasons... To which I say this: And the reasons are...like that playboy broad on top...hidden agendas... For you: to prove an internet point... However...I dont put too much into what you may or may not think is attractive... I just see right through the BS...
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    @ccap41 At the very beginning. The title At the very end I got a COMPLETELY different vibe than you! The only reason why they liked it its because it is unique and CERTAIN angles of it is nice...other angles..they think its odd looking...
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    Yeah....lets just omit that... PS: The ATS gets CONSTANT negative feed back for that...and the CLA is WORSE than the ATS... Go figure!
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    Long forgotten for both German flops....yet Cadillac still gets roasted for the Cimarron... The Cimarron ended its life in 1987. The BMW 318ti in the year 2000... 1993-2000 The C230 in 2008... 2000-2008 @ccap41 read that article...from a European perspective with NO AMERICAN BIAS such as Chevy, Buick, Cadillac car comparisons or just plain 'Merica Phoque yeah attitudes! https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/mercedes-benz/cla Common dude! I know you like to rustle some feathers from time to time...go against the grain and try to use badge engineering when you GOD DAMN WELL KNOW that Mercedes Benz is JUST ONE PHOQUING brand as opposed to GENERAL MOTORS when ALL GENERAL MOTORS EVER WAS SINCE ITS BEGINNING WAS JUST A HOLDING COMPANY FOUNDED BY DURANT IN 1908 BY BUYING OTHER AUTOMOTIVE COMPANIES SUCH AS OLDSMOBILE AND SAAB AND OTHER NON-AUTOMOBILE RELATED COMPANIES SUCH AS FRIGIDAIRE...so yeah...GM RISKS IN HAVING MORE BADGE ENGINEERED VEHICLES IN ITS LINE-UP... THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT A BAD THING!!! A shytty vehicle passing off as "entry level" luxury no matter who builds it and where it came from, regardless if badge engineered or bespoke, is still a shytty phoquing vehicle from where I am standing... And a CLA is a piss poor attempt at a FWD car in ANY price point or marketing niche whether an attempt for it to be an econobox mainstream European arket car or "entry level" marketing innuendo brainwashing bullshyte car for the North American market!
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    This is what I dont get... Does @smk4565 really think this was a compelling automobile for the North American market? (Euro market is different for Mercedes) The Oldsmobile Aurora he owned....which was about the same years this M-B was offered in North America... Was that Benz shytebox below or above the Olds Aurora? And you know....the CLA is just a better marketed version of that C230 Coupe...OK....SLIGHTLY better packaged as well....but the CLA aint winning any battles for supremacy...anybody that has gotten close to that car sees it for what it really is....a poor attempt to put lipstick on an econobox pig... Cadillac got roasted for the Cimarron by Eurosnobs... It seems weird to me that they dont hold the same standards for Mercedes Benz when its clear that Mercedes Benz has plenty of times screwed their market base with shyte and poorly thought out cars...(yes the CLA is poorly thought out)...Cadillac only gave us the Cimarron a LIFETIME ago... The C230 Coupe was barely 15 years ago while the CLA is a RECENT offering... From TOPGEAR UK... https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/mercedes-benz/cla From EUROPEAN reviewers where Mercedes is COMFORTABLY GOOD in selling MAINSTREAM machines and Mercedes has a DUAL personality equally IMPORTANT in Europe as a MAINSTREAM ECONOBOX maker and LUXURY brand...
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    I was gonna go down this worm hole a while back...sometimes I wanna engage in silly stupidity arguments...sometimes I dont. I stopped...and then I decided to come back to it...the auto-record thingy saved the post....and now Ive decided to engage in this silliness of the CLA being a worthy "entry level" luxury car deemed for a truly luxury brand... Price wise it does...So does the CLA.... And you know what else competes with the CLA? A Chevrolet Impala LTZ..yes on price... Ive hammered on Cadillac for this... https://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/topic/86783-what-does-cadillac-mean-to-you/ Now....what is good for the goose is good for the gander... The CLA is nothing but a FWD car with AWD attached to it on the big trim with econobox intentions because it is an econobox FWD A-Class underneath...but to fool latte swilling badge snob idiots, M-B slaps on some crappy leather and a high price tag and calls it the day...one could just sing praise because of what badge he drives...because that is what cars are supposed to do anyhow...but one also has to see through the bullshyte too...and we lead to this next paragraph complimenting @surreal1272's take on the discussion... As far as the last gen Buick Regal is concerned...a truly German engineered effort not to be forgotten...here is an interesting comparo from a "reputable" "enthusiast" "car magazine"... http://www.motortrend.com/cars/bmw/3-series/2014/entry-level-luxury-sedan-comparison/ The article states the obvious if one is reading between the lines of what is wrong with the M-B CLA and why M-B should not be selling this car to anybody... @Cmicasa the Great's post is dead on with the reading between the lines...especially the bold parts...
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    The profile of these are very similar. Not the same...but very close. The Chevy definitely has a nicer face, and the rears of both cars are relatively and equally attractive. The design language though, flows better with the Chevy... Slightly bigger car and cheaper price tag versus longer range, nicer looks yet pricier... I think they compliment each other perfectly and both give future EV buyers with different needs a choice. I dont think either will reign supreme against each other as both offer different needs for would be consumers. A buyer needs a bigger car. Nissan A buyer needs longer range. Chevy. If price is a factor. Nissan If price maybe a factor but aesthetics takes a more prominent role than price does. Chevy. This is how I sees things.
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    Um....the last pic on the left is a Greek dude...OK...an Australian depicting a Greek dude. Either way...no speako Americano Here is another one for you folk....
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    Maybe those standards need a-changin' Oopsies... Am I being douchey?
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    My comrades and I... And for future use....this meme will be used the next time we lock horns together...
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    HA! HA! HA! My 3.7 liter 305 horsepower internal combustion engined 6 cylinder in V configuration currently is just about running on an empty gas tank. I was too lazy to fill up yesterday evening...I could go to work tomorrow, probably even come home to which Ill probably be running on fumes... Point is...I got...what...10 miles of range... I dont got a gas pump at home...so... Why is it a bad thing to charge your EV at home? Im on a lap top currently... I charge it at home... My cordless drill...is charging at home... So is my cell phone and land-line cordless phone... The funny thing is...my next door neighbor has a Chevy Volt...2014 I believe... He has plugged it in as we speak... He will have...in the morning...what...30-35 electric miles to work with...I only have 10... Thing is...I would LOVE to be able to plug in my car AT HOME AND NEVER MAKE A PIT STOP TO A GASOLINE STATION EVER AGAIN! So...why does this article make it seem like its a negative? Could it be that Honda does not have viable EVs to compete with the rest of the world... You know....the Bolt is a FANTASTIC little car...So is the Volt... Do they still make the Clarity and the CRZ? Yeah...I thought so!
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    Triplets...triplets. Their 2 door brother would be my favorite!
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    I had the Continental Mark IV coupe in my memory banks that I forgot (OR NEVER KNEW ABOUT) the sedan. I remembered a Marquis as a family friend had one back in the day.
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    Im sure if I drove the F Type Id love this car too. The Bentley GT old and new too. Arm chair race car driver, as I am now, unfortunately clouds my mind and makes me hate on the F Type too! It is a sexy car...I just dont feel it!
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    I was sooooooo sure it was a Mercury Marquis when I first saw that photo 4-5 years ago. I googled 1976 Lincoln and by golly...it is a 1976 Continental. 1. I forgot how Lincoln Continentals looked like by the mid-1970s 2. Freaked me out to see how close a Marquis and a Continental look alike.
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    PS There are a couple of reasons why Cadillac stumbled... 1. V8-6-4 That burned some American buyers who later turned to...LEΧUS... 2. The Cadillac Cimarron That burned plenty of American buyers that simply went to Acura and Infiniti killing Oldsmobile as well... BMW and Audi got some love too... 3. The very slow transition to performance oriented vehicles... This made BMW king! NOT Mercedes-Benz... In fact...Mercedes Benz was chasing BMW in the 1990s with Cadillac... Audi too... Twas when Mercedes Benz said phoque the sports sedan theme...we will rock and focus with a muscle car theme is when Mercedes Benz took off...that would be in the 2000s. The E39 M5 and the E36 and E46 M3s were UNTOUCHABLE regarding perception in the 1990s. The 1994 Audi A4 with the same platform Passat surpassed Mercedes Benz in the compact class in the 1990s. The Acura Legend, Vigor, Integra, NSX with the Lexus LS and other Lexus cars blew ANY Mercedes Benz perception out of the water. The SUV craze... Twas Jeep, Lexus, Ford and Lincoln that lead that ship... Escalade took over and is till king in the fullsize lux department... The ML NEVER took off...even with Jurassic Park by its side... Twas when M-B bought Chrysler was when the ML took off... The BMW X5 ALWAYS outsold the ML... Dude...its embarrassing how you want to re-write history... Lincoln was out selling everybody in the late 1990s...WITH THE TOWN CAR ON THE ROSTER... THE S-CLASS...HA!!! The only reason why YOU think the S Class was hot is that you saw DICTATORS being chauffered in them. M-B charged those heads of state arms and legs to buy them and literally...those heads of states paid for them by arms and legs by stealing and killing their own people...those ultra expensive S Classes were bought with other people's lives...dictators dont give a shyte how much M-B was charging...it wasnt their money being spent... PS: One dictator's final ride of choice... A CLASSIC MERCURY...from the 1970s... Where is the Pullman you talk about, huh?
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    You double talk... In the first paragraph...you make it seem like its a privilege to out Mercedes, Mercedes. In the second paragraph...you wanna insult Chevy and Ford... The truth of the matter is that Lexus and Acura and Infiniti and the still born Amati from Mazda was to out do Lincoln and Cadillac... Why else do you think that Acura, Lexus and Infiniti are brands ONLY SOLD IN NORTH AMERICA... In the rest of the world...Mercedes Benz cars are taxis and mainstream sedans...The Japanese want to sell LUXURY CARS...its in the USA that luxury cars are bought... This is the 1980s and 1990s...globalization has JUST started...the money transfer and jobs are not yet at a world level...the money is still in the USA... Lexus copied M-B's look ONLY to be more accepted in the North American market in a design language that would seem accepted in North America...nothing to do with M-B and its image... Not the first time Toyota does this for North America... Looks like a Mustang to sell to Americans that would consider a sporty car from Japan... The formula worked so they did the same thing with their flagship luxury car... Remember that this is a 1976 Celica The Mustang had its Mustang II suit on...the Trans Am was the big pony car... The looks of the cars had nothing to do with who was on top...only pure marketing design in which design language would be more attractive to the North American buyer. Acura did the NSX which INSTANTLY got them accepted Infiniti is STILL struggling to get wide acceptance in their VISUAL design language. SMK...The Lexus LS would be top dog in North America...along with the Fleetwood and Town Car through out the 1990s... NOT MERCEDES BENZ... I dont know why you are so forgetful....you choose to wear rose coloured glasses...I suggest you take them off!
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    I have a personal vendetta against this car...any E36 3 Series. When it first came out, I liked it! In fact...I was soooooo into this shyte movie BECAUSE of the E36 (I will always be a HUUUUGE Charlie Sheen fan though..regardless if he is a tiger-HIV infested blood "winner"! ) But my Eurosnob friends soured me big time regarding Bimmers! To this day....Im still struggling in accepting BMW in my heart!
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    Same here. I have been like this for about a decade now. There have been many models I have lusted over by most of these brands...but later offerings or other models in their respective stables have left me cold.
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    Also... When the Japanese got serious on conquering the North American market...the shyte got real...really fast. Exterior body panel tolerances and interior tolerances were perfected by them and were usually extremely tight. Please...I hope you dont think Mercedes Benz manufacturing in the 1980s and the 1990s was as tight as the Japanese was... And when we ( @balthazar , @Drew Dowdell, @Cmicasa the Great, @surreal1272) say that MercedesBenz was NOT a luxury car maker, its because we know that since their cars over in Europe were Taxis and mainstream sedans and over here were just slabbed with leather and priced sky high...we know that everything regarding luxury was just skimped on by M-B JUST BECAUSE those "luxury cars" were NOT really luxury cars... Cheap ass interior plastics and shoddy fit and finish.... Why? mainstream market vehicle in Europe. Eurosnob-self hating Americans were bamboozled with a high price tag. Wide gaps in body panels. Why? mainstream market vehicle in Europe therefore the need to improve upon that was not necessary. It was more necessary and cheaper to bamboozle Eurosnob-self hating Americans with a high price tag. Why do you think the Japanese saw a need to go upscale for? Hint: It aint because Mercedes-Benz was highly regarded as a luxury car maker in the 1980s... Result: Try getting people off of their Toyotas and Lexus cars in 2017... These people wont buy American...but wont buy German either! In fact...these people will buy American WAAAAAY before they buy German!
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    More like the NSΧ V6 became the basis for the future V6 for the Accord as when the NSX came out, the Accord only came in 4 cylinder flavour. The Legend only came with a V6...although shared some features with the NSΧ, it wasnt exactly a direct relationship... Later 4 cylinder engines from Honda/Acura shared many NSX V6 traits. The NSX V6 had a lot of "firsts" going for it. The car itself also. The list is long. If you care enough to learn...maybe you should take the time to read up on the NSX...it will surprise you how advanced the engine and the car itself was... And if you dont want to know and If you havent already understood by now why the 1st generation NSΧ is a highly regarded car, then you will never understand...therefore it is hopeless for me to continue... PS: There is a reason why Acura and Lexus were highly regarded then and why Lexus is still ranked high today.... And while you shyte on Cadillac, PLEASE BE HONEST (WITH YOURSELF) AND REALIZE THAT BMW, AUDI AND MERCEDES WERE JUST AS LAUGHED AT AS CADILLAC WAS! Only EUROSNOBS DID NOT LAUGH AT GERMAN CARS...BUT OTHERS IN THE KNOW OF WHAT WAS GOING ON...WERENT GONNA TOUCH A GERMAN CAR WITH A 10 FT. POLE! FOR THE LAST TIME There is a reason why these Japanese cars are legendary today and why the Japanese have a foot in the luxury market today... Hint: It aint because Mercedes-Benz was a powerful luxury car maker...
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    @smk4565 You are confusing the success of these cars and causing a ruckus in North America with M-B.... M-B had NO such success in the 1990s...
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    Dude...M-B in the 1990s wasnt all that great either... Technically..Cadillac was still above M-B in the 1990s in the lux department and in sales... You are confusing the surge of Lexus in the 1990s with that with M-B...
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