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@Frisky Dingo I have noticed that while in the automotive world we are worlds apart sometimes, in the military world, we have very similar likes. I mean very similar. PS im trying to upvote your post on top but it wont let me.

Yeah...McDonnel Douglas... I made an oopsie mistake. Happens on occasion. I have deep respect for Airbus and their aircraft. I would have mentioned the A380, but that 747...she is my mistress... And seein that my dad worked at Canadair for 40 years of his life, Canadair aircraft are the reason why I am an airplane buff....no room left for Airbus on any list.

On the flip side Mr. @dfelt , I dont watch ANY television programming other than sports. Correction, I watch kid TV shows that my children watch. Pre-teen stuff on YTV or Nickoledeon...or the odd Discovery channel or History channel documentary and Kount's Customs and stuff like that. THAT is the ONLY reason why I keep sat TV. Canada has high internet rates so I might as just as well keep my sat TV with my DVR.

@dfelt @ccap41 I have a DVR. Ive had one for the longest time now and MOST of the games I watch whether its NHL hockey or NFL football, I record them and watch them at my leisure. So what that means is that I have for the longest time just FF over the commercials. I havent realized that in today's NFL there are too many commercials. Yeah, too many commercials would sour me also that I would bypass watching a full game live. Come to think of it, one reason why I record the games and watch them at my leisure is to condense the viewing time of 21/2 - 3 hours to about half that time.... As I dont hang around sports bros anymore, I dont get surprise unwanted sports scores so when I do watch the games, its like Im watching them live... When I fear an employee or two of mine would know the scores or my partner, I warn them not to tell me.

I NEVER said ANYTHING about ANY ILLEGAL immigration...ILLEGAL immigration aint legal, so it aint immigration... 1. ILLEGAL immigration HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HAVING OPEN BORDERS!!! 2. EVEN WITH OPEN BORDERS, immigrants STILL HAVE to go through the legal red tape to become citizens.... 3. Open borders simply means: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" which pretty much includes everyone that wants a better life for himself/herself and wants to make America or Canada home... Please dont let your fears confuse the two scenarios.... I guess ANYBODY that confuses what open borders means, they fell for the fear mongering hook, line and sinker... All those Syrians that Canada took in with our open borders, well, they came to our country the LEGAL way.... Those Mexicans that sneak in....well, THAT is NOT what OPEN BORDERS means, open borders means those Mexicans need not sneak in ILLEGALLY IF the IMMIGRATION PROCESS WAS EASIER AND OPEN for them to do so LEGALLY...

So..... About Canada... We have the English, and we have the French.... CENTURIES of hating each other, wars fought against each other in EVERY SINGLE CONTINENT INCLUDING this one....ESPECIALLY THIS ONE DEFINING OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PROBLEMS.... So....what are you suggesting? Forget about all that muslim-phobia crap....we still have issues in our country regarding just the white race...French and English... Yet... In the Old Countries, they managed to put that shyte aside.... New forms of racism and ethnic bigotry has arose, in both countries, and in our very own country, we still havent made up and we have joined the muslim hatred I see...at least France and England get along unlike the problems we have in our country....well, with the likes of your type, we will NEVER see peace at the end of the tunnel.... Oh...If you are against open borders, you are against me... I am of Greek decent. My grand-dad and grand-ma came to this country from Greece in the late 1890s...my dad, as a GREEK CANADIAN born and raised in Canada fought during WW2 as a CANADIAN SOLDIER fighting a tyrant in Germany... Before you become cheeky and tell me Greeks are not like Muslims....let me remind you of something: "With the stroke of a pen one Sunday afternoon in Cairo" One must ask himself, are we Westerners without sin to hypocritically judge all others wanting to come to our shores for a better life? In other words, maybe us Westerners and our crappy foreign policies may have created some of that turmoil.... Canada and the USA are GREAT countries because our borders WERE ALWAYS OPEN and DIVERSITY IS WHAT MAKES US GREAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE US GREAT...AND STRONGER!!! There are no limits to diversity... Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" (Immigrants) Some of these people were the likes of Al Capone...but some were parents of Rudolf Giuliani and Joe DiMaggio... If you cant see that, I feel sorry for you.......

OK. Mr. Horse, What is it like driving an Acura TL? A 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD... OK...when the car was new, some people, friends and strangers looked at me in awe. Like I was driving a car of importance. In Quebec, Acura still has the aura of luxury about the brand. 1 short year later and I got the wife a 2013 Ford Fusion, whenever I drove the Fusion, I realized that people were in awe more with the Fusion than they were with the TL and that trend continues today. What does it mean for me? Nothing. I get a kick driving both cars and I dont mind being seen in either of them. I see the differences that make Acura an Acura product though. A few say that the TL and the TLX are the only bright spots for Acura. OK....fair enough. But it took Lincoln long enough to turn the bloody corner. And they are still not there. Let us give Acura a shot at improving whatever the naysayers are trying to naysay about them. Like I said, Acura went sour ONLY at about 2005 or so....that is ONLY a decade....and stilll, not tooo bad. We dont want to show what Lincoln or Cadillac had that was luxury back then.... I REPEAT....ACURA to date has not offered CRAP as that Catera's interior or 1st gen CTS yet some will defend the CTS....yet crap on the Acura's and with my memory....not bad at all for Acura. About the other Acura stuff... Ill repeat. Honda too with the Accord, their interiors are not exactly sexy....well built but not sexy... Ill repeat. Many confuse that with quality. Ill be changing my tires for the winters and Ill get into the MDX and the other models to refresh my memory but I still stand by my comments. I havent been in those models as I dont really care for them myself... FoMoCo and GM are the ones to be in charge of interior design more so than Honda/Acura but that does not mean Honda/Acura went cheaper, it just means FoMoCo and GM finallly woke the phoque up! Let not our GM or FoMoCo bias get in the way... I also repeat.... The Continental is all but 1 car in a sea of also ran SUVs and badge engineered One Ford portfolio models. If anybody thinks that is not on Buick's level, then they are lying to themselves. Honda too badge engineers its Acura products, so if anybody thinks that Lincoln is soooooo far removed from Acura, they too are lying to themselves... FoMoCo has what Acura has in terms of AWD. Ford has revo-knuckle that is promising but I dont know if Lincoln uses it. Acura has SH-AWD that only Acura uses, if Im not mistaken. The TLX also has PAWS. The NSX was and continues to be a Honda elsewhere on the planet except in North America. Its an Acura here. The Ford GT is a Ford. Not a Lincoln. Does Lincoln need a supercar? Who cares???!!! On a halo to halo car comparison, the NSX trumps (pun NOT intended) the Continental in terms of probably luxury, quality and technology... What does all that mean???!!! I dont know!!! Alls I do know is that Acura in Quebec does not have an image problem like Lincoln has. Ive said this before, Lincoln's road to recovery starts with the Continental and every other model after it, have to be flawless. The SUVs minus the 'Gator are practically flawless. Acura too, is relying one 1 car. The NSX. And all other cars after the NSX also have to be flawless. With a BIG difference though.... Lincoln needs a solid direction. No more One Ford. As does Acura. No more soul-less ugliness. Lincoln needs to correct its quality and luxury PERCEPTION.... NOT ACURA....Even in the States, Acura has NOT soured their image....its their soul that is damaged... I repeat, GM and FoMoCo fanboys prefer to drag Acura in the mud for "quality"... OK....what does Acura mean to me? Acura to me in the 1990s meant that it was the new Oldsmobile. More so, I wish Oldsmobile was more like Acura in the early 1990s. I wished the Olds Cutlass Calais/Achieva was more of a sporty, golf cart handler and better built automobile than it was along the lines of the Integra. I wished the Cutlass Supreme had as much quality and luxury and sportiness as the Acura Legend and Vigor. The Delta 88, I wished those went away and Oldsmobile just concentrated on the Aurora and I wished the Aurora brand propelled Oldsmobile further and beyond what the NSX was doing for Acura. Today, I see the TL and the TLX where the Cutlass Supreme could have done battle and I could see that Oldsmobile could have kicked Acura's ass.... I also see Buick taking over Old's place where Oldsmobile left off, but Buick is missing a certain charisma that Oldsmobile had and Acura for that matter... Buick lacks that sporty feel that Acura exudes, even when Acura has phoqued that up too..... Mr. Horse....RANT OVER!

Wow..... Same list for me.... Except Id nix the Apache for the Chinook. I just love this helicopter. I like the Apache too, its just that the Chinook is bad ass in its own way that I respect dearly. The Mi-28 is the one that could fly backwards right? If that is the one, then Ill forgo go the old skool Mi-24 and Ill modernize my selection and go with ykX's choice of the Mi-28 My Huey is the latest one. The Super Huey. The UH-1Y Venom. Normally, Id go with the classic Viet Nam era Huey, but I gotta stay modern. My Sikorsky UH Series heli would be the Seahawk. The Marine One is close so Ill just keep what Frisky chose. The UH6. MD500. Magnum PI's helicopter's military brother. I like. I keep.

Any airplane? This is nuts!!! I LOVE airplanes just as much, if not more, than cars! Ill do 5 WW2 warbirds. Then Ill do 5 modern war jets. Then Ill do 5 civilian jets... WW2 Supermarine Spitfire MkIX North American P51D Mustang Focke Wulf FW190 A8 Messerschmidt BF109 E-4 Curtiss P-40 Warhawk Hopelessly outdated when WW2 started, but there is something about it that I love. Shark face paint jobs I think is it... Modern fighters McDonnell Douglas F4J Phantom II General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon Mikoyan Gurevich MiG 29 Fulcrum Dassault Rafale McDonnell Douglas F-15E Eagle Commercial or Private Jets Boeing 747...all of them. ESPECIALLY the latest one. the 747-800 Canadair Challenger 350 and Not the same private jet... Canadair Challenger 600/601/605/650 Boeing DC3 Boeing 787 Dreamliner Canadair CL-215/CL-415

I will do only tanks in this one. Tiger I for me although the Tiger II was a much better version. Thicker and slanted sides made for shells to really bounce off of it, yet I prefer the look of the Tiger I. Panzerkampfwagen 5 Panther Russian T-34 Russian T-90 American Abrams M1

all WW2 stuff for me. Or any other variation of the SdKfz 251 half-track

I havent forgotten or ignored this thread. I came home later than I expected and I helped my daughter study for her exam tomorrow. As of now, Ill be watching hockey that Im recording on my DVR. The Boston Bruins play the Panthers. Sure the Habs are also playing, but Im a Bruins fan... Oh and Drew. I own a 2012 TL... I also know what its like living with an Acura product... Are you barking up the wrong tree? Maybe. But a difference of opinion is a good way to have discussions... But you too, may have to ease back and listen to what others are saying...besides, we are not that far off each others point of view in this thread...

I will definitely tell you I see things at the Buick camp and Lincoln camp and Acura camp at around 6:00 or 7:oo PM tonight. Im at work so I cant do this now. Later my good buddy Mr. Horse!

In bold...that is what Im also saying...about Acura. About the CTS...actually, Cadillac also has image problems and the CTS aint selling whatits supposed to be selling. And the ATS too. Lincoln's Continental aint up for sale yet and we are pretending that its the best damned thing in the world. Buick does indeed have nicer better quality interiors than Acura, but Buick just started this procedure. As with Lincoln, we are all pretending that Buick is soooo much better than Acura? We are pretending that Lincoln is soooo much better than Acura? Buick too has not overcome their image problems fully...the Avenir trim package will surley cure that very quickly! But the Avenir package is at minimum, 2 full years away... Acura, might be riding its own coat tails of 20 years ago...but even as far as 8 years ago, Acura was far far far above Cadillac, Buick and Lincoln in perception by the buying public... No...we must not forget the not so distant past. The buying public sure has not! The NSX, if its interior is what Acura's were known for, will QUICKLY make people forget its current woes...its just that Acura's next fleet of new vehicles BETTER be on that high standard level...If Acura could match Buick's current interior levels, Acura has got it made!!! Lincoln has got a longer much more tougher road to convince people that Lincoln is back! The "magical" Continental is NOT THAT answer. Its but a stepping stone on the road to recovery! Listen...Buick, Lincoln and Acuras. All three have strengths and have their issues. Each brand's strengths and weaknesses are different than the other and opposite of each others. What Buick lacks, Acura and Lincoln has. What Acura lacks, Buick and Lincoln has. What Lincoln lacks, Buick and Acura has. To me, all that is on an EQUAL playing field. Not one brand is superior or inferior to the other. I see it that way because I don't let my feelings and biases pull me one way or the other!

I have. AND I AGREE WITH YOU! At the same time, it aint that bad... If you have ever given a pass to a Corvette C6 (price on the Vette is more in tune with Acura prices than Chevy and Zeta Camaro (Its platform mate 4 door sedan in China was a luxurious Buick Park Ave...surpassing in image any Aura) interior a pass, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY EXPECT you give these Acuras a pass.... Acura HAS stumbled...but not to the point where GM and the 1st gen CTS was...Acura hasnt blown away the competition like it had done in the 1990s. They just let everybody else catch up to their standards... Ill repeat. Its not so much about Acura going cheap as much as it is that GM and FoMoCo FINALLY have CAUGHT UP and SURPASSED Acura's OWN STANDARDS!!! (From the 1990s) Acura hasnt improved upon what they and Lexus has done. That distinction would go to Audi... We must not let ANY BIASES escape rational thoughts...fair is fair and we must carry the same standards for everybody when judging and discussing. If its good for the goose it MUST be good for the gander... If its inexcusable for Acura...the last 5-7 years....what....we just forget how abysmal GM and FoMoCo were for the last 30 years? To boot, Acura's interiors the last 5-7 years really are not that bad... Its ironic as I said the SAME BLOODY THING DEFENDING GM (Cadillac) over at MT when BMW fanboys were dissing Cadillac. Fanboyism is such a horrible thing....and yeah Im implying that it exists here too...

2002 TL interior 1st gen CTS interior. Cheap.... Like I said, Acura's interiors from 1990 to 2008 were EONS ahead of the Detroit 3. Like I said, GM and FoMoCo have finally caught up and possibly surpassed Acura, but its not as if Acura stooped as low as that 1st Gen CTS...I dont think Acura EVER offered a cheap interior like that in its cars and that includes the Integra and all other badge engineered Civics...

You are absolutely right Drew....but these models and time period are about the time where Acura has been stumbling... Mid 2000s, and the interiors of these predecessor models are just eons ahead of GM and FoMoCo of the same time period...like I said, GM and FoMoCo just EQUALIZED and perhaps surpasses Acura's interior. Not that Acura failed as much as GM and FoMoCo caught up and surpassed... Acura also lost its direction. They lost their sporty intentions...just like Honda...Killing the Integra while just badge engineering the Civic into a leather clad Civic while at the same time engineering the Civic as a cheap appliance hurt Honda and Acura. And then... Losing out somewhat on this model. It became an old fogey's ride. It was an excellent ride. Luxurious and....old fogeyish... But redeeming themselves with this one: But losing big time with the super beak TL. I happen to love the super beak. But many dont. I feel like many see Acura's failure in quality is not because of quality...but for aesthetics... Like I said, Acura's super beak years also coincide with clunky interiors...both do not bode well for perception. 2008 Acura TL interior. Like the Blue TL above. Quite elegant that looks good to the eye 8 years later... 2009 super beak TL interior. Kinda the same style...but bulky and clunky....like the super beak... The 2008 Cadillac CTS interior was elegantly done. Cheap though. It rattled. It was loose. No Acura interior to date rattles...ever.

Well. Lets take a looksie at GM. Chevy has the Vette. Should Cadillac NOT get a supercar of some sorts just because Chevy has one. Granted, timing has to be 100% perfect for the absolutely right supercar for Cadillac to hit the showrooms once other more vital products are made for Cadillac, but Cadillac will need one eventually. Lets take a look at Volkswagen Automotive Group. Porsche. Their whole line-up is a supercar of some sort. Sure 4 door cars and SUVs, but those are their for the funding of said supercars. Audi...the R8...based on Lamborghini parts but its pure Audi in form and function and identity. Lamborghini. Their whole line-up is a supercar of some sort. All three brands actually compete with one another in races and in sales... Then there is Bugatti... So...I dont know if its fair to say that a brand is top tier luxury because of these supercars, but it helps with public perception at multiple levels. Price tag. High price tag equals luxury. Technology. High technology equals luxury. Add both together and you get people lusting after your product line-up from top to bottom. Of course there are other factors. Marketing is a HUGE one. So yeah. I think its fair. PS: A halo car need not be a supercar. The Lincoln Continental could be that special halo car that transforms Lincoln the way the 1st generation NSX did for Acura. Is the Continental and the new NSX as special as the original NSX was? HMMMM...that is the question...

I misled you with my definition of premium lux. I meant to say mid level lux. I agree with you in saying that Acura is not "premium". Ill confuse the situation a tad further... The low end BMW and Audi stuff aint exactly premium either. More like mainstream. Is it fair to judge Acura that harshly? While I agree that Acura has lost its way, but interior quality has not really suffered as much as you and Drew say it has. I think we think Acura's interior quality has suffered because: 1. Cadillac, Buick and Chevy's interior along with Ford's and Lincoln's interior has improved all that much to where Acura''s is... 2. Acura's interiors where elegant in the 1990s. From 2008 or so, they have become clunky. They are solidly built, but they are clunky. Clunky does not exude luxury. I agree with the TLX. I HATE THAT INTERIOR. I prefer my 2012 TL's interior better. And like I said, Acura aint on the same level as Audi. Audi is the best in the business, but...as much as I HATE the TLX's interior, it still is solid, very solid for the TLX's price point. Remember, the TLX base's price point is Honda Accord V6 territory. That would be Impala LTZ territory. The Impala is awesome, but Impala aint premium either. There are flaws to its interior too, if compared to an Audi A6.... Which brings us to Lincoln. The MKZ fits into this discussion. Acura TLX SH-AWD with PAWS...or Lincoln MKZ... One car is kinda of an Accord V6 with SH-AWD and PAWS while the other is kinda of a Ford Fusion Titanium/Mondeo Vignale with a V6 ecoboost and AWD... Each have strengths and weaknesses compared to each other... For a person to straight up and laugh at Acura when imposing HIS OWN BIASED opinion on Lincoln while praising Lincoln and denouncing Acura is not very genuine... And while Acura has a long way to go to get back to respectability, they have an EASIER time to get their than Lincoln. As it was said before....luxury is a whored up word nowadays, PUBLIC PERCEPTION is the key...and Acura has not soiled its brand half as bad as Lincoln has.... Put it another way. The Acura NSX will pave the way for other Acura models to follow. And if Acura finds its mojo as Honda has, the road to recovery will be a FASTER ONE than Lincoln's. The Continental will pave the way for other Lincoln models to follow. And if Lincoln finds its mojo as Ford has, the road to recovery will be a LONGER AND SLOWER one than Acura's... In MY OWN REALITY, I see Lincoln AT AN EQUAL FOOTING AS ACURA. Not superior or inferior. As far as Buick goes...as of 2016, Buick may be a tad inferior as Buick has no real halo car to identify itself to. In 2016/2017, Lincoln has the Continental while Acura has the NSX. In 2015 though, Buick is on an EQUAL FOOTING as LINCOLN OR ACURA. But...many more models to come for Buick and I have a feeling the Avenir trim level will be Buick's halo identity. Not really a car but a trim level. Different approach but just as equally effective. Lincoln and Acura will have to hit homeruns with every other car they make after the Continental and NSX to re-polish their image, while Buick just has to continue on the same path they are on while just adding the Avenir trim package on their models. It seems like Buick has 1 leg up on its Lincoln and Acura rivals as they know what their identity is as of now and people have already warmed up to that image...Lincoln and Acura still have some convincing to do... Of course that is just my opinion.

So did I. I know the ship has sailed and Im tuning in late...sorry about that. But I felt I needed to explain myself too... Anyhoo.. @A Horse With No Name and @Drew Dowdell About the NSX....sure its low volume and sure Acura has lost a lot in terms of luxury and perception... But...Im also sure the NSX is built to the highest of standards that Acura (Honda) is capable of.... And...as much as Acura has fallen from the horse, they havent fallen from grace. Unlike Lincoln. And yeah, the NSX is a low volume car, Acura could build a car like that and it well sell every last one of them, but LIncoln, cant do that as of now... So...with that being said...please, dont say that Acura aint premier lux....and yeah, above Lincoln..even with the Continental in the show room...

Of course you dont agree and of course you wont bother with any rebuttal... How could you? 1. You dont agree with one phoquing word I said is because you work for FoMoCo and ANYTHING said about FoMoCo that is less than complimentary you become defensive. 2. YOU know there is no debate with what I said because what I said is REALITY....YOU aint naive.. PS: I said you are NOT naive....and you dont agree with what I said....does that mean you think you are naive? THE NSX 1st generation represents what Lincoln and FoMoCo lost to the Japanese car maker.... THE NSX 2nd generation represents (along with that new Continental) what Lincoln, FoMoCo, Acura and Honda Motor Division had lost due to blurry eye sight...and are trying to get back on track... Agree to that or not....I dont care what you believe, but 'twas you that went wacky on Suave and is laughing at Acura and Buick....remember....YOU asked what Acura or Buick has in their portfolio that is high in regard to the Continental.... I showed you the Acura NSX... You want a tissue my darling to wipe those tears from your face?

You really are nuts! (Not in a good way) Why? 1. Suave LOVES the Continental....you pissed on him for no phoquing reason by crying over what you thought was a negative post! If you cease to be so obsessively defensive you would have realized that he was actually praising and LOVING it! 2. Relax with the Continental bro...It aint even on sale yet at the Lincoln Store! But since you asked: The NSX, old and new, had and has a HIGHER price tag than anything Lincoln EVER offered for a long time. The last time Lincoln had a car priced that high, John F. Kennedy was still alive... The NSX also represents technology that Lincoln, hell, FoMoCo, not even remotely offering its clientele. The Ford GT might have a higher price tag, it doesnt nearly have half as much tech in it in... About Buick... Buick's portfolio will increase in the next 5 years 2 fold...if the new Lacrosse is any indication where the brand is going along with the Avenir trim packages on the higher end stuff....Lincoln's Continental will have its hands full fighting off Buick... Remember, Buick's portfolio just 6-7 years ago was thinner and weaker than Lincoln's... All Lincoln has is that Continental...and a couple of SUVs...remember, other than that Continental, Lincoln really has not that much... And let us be honest, the hood area of the Continental has Ford Fusion/Mondeo styling...above the jewel LED headlights is an aero area that the Fusion also adorns....and those jewel LEDs are heavily borrowed from Acura... Buick also has a couple of strong SUVs. And a new Regal coming up shortly. Wings...1 car does not make a brand.... Ask Acura and Buick...you know, the brands you laugh at.... Wings...Lincoln's playmates are Buick and Acura...you could stop pretending....you aint naive...

I tried hard to circumvent the rules on this one. I found it tough, but I found a way to weasel in a few questionable entries...(twas with Mopar and the muscle cars that I was stomped with...stupid Mitsubishi denied me of a classic Challenger and Shelby with a classic Charger) We start with the first one: 2009 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG. I LOVE THIS CAR. I HAD TO HAVE IT. Problem is, 2 generations have passed....but...we are still in 2016 and the new gen just got on the market while the previous gen technically is still available making the 2009 questionably legit...tough noogies Frisky... The second weasel car: Chevrolet SS' cousin, the Pontiac G8 GXP Firehawk is the choice...we even jump to a different brand with this one, a dead brand at that, but technically, the Chevy SS predecessor is the Pontiac G8...Australia says so... Suck it Frisky!!! I got inspiration from the MOPAR scenario where I was trying to choose predecessors from a different era when choosing this next one. Acura NSX. Larger displacement or original motor. I dont care. But it has to be the one with the pop-up headlights. I wanted Aston Martin, but its near impossible to figure out which car replaced what since they are all practically from the same platform and since I already done my con jobs, I figured Id give it rest, so another Mercedes Benz car was chosen. 2010 CLS 63 AMG I soooo wanted a MOPAR...But a VIPER is not my style. I love it....but still... So what else could I choose that is pure MOPAR muscle? I GOT IT!!!! That lovely V10 was originally a truck engine...why not choose the truck with THAT engine under the hood. But the VIPERIZED version will have to do. Yeah yeah...Trucks are not my style either. Look at the pic. Isnt that a purty picture? Now you know why I chose the MOPAR truck...

How about a lifted Wrangler whatever lettering series it is? Here, a 2 door. Is that sporty enough for ya? Because it is for me!

I just had a flashback of songs from that era...weird how that works...