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^^^ I wanted to do a laughy emogi, but that might have sent the wrong message. So I went with an approval emogi! I laughed but in a good way. Model making and modifying go hand in hand with the more experienced model makers. And definitely that 1/25th scale 632 BELONGS in a 1/25th scale plastic model Camaro/Chevelle/Impala SS. Even a Corvette or Nova. And the model could be made to be a restomod. Very interesting that somebody made a (I assume it to be) 3D printed version of it! On a side note. Im very excited about the future of home versions of 3D printers and cant wait when this technology becomes the norm in our society. People in the know say that a 3D printer will be as common as a toaster and microwave oven in a household in the next decade.

I had seen that Grand Am video 2 days before. Thanx for posting it Balthy!

Im into Camaros all of a sudden. I guess its a case of KNOWING what we've got before its gone

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-chevrolet-corvette-c8-z06-zora-zr1-eray-rumors/ 2023 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Yes, there's going to be a Corvette ZR1. Chevy will mutate the Z06 into the ZR1 by plumbing two turbochargers into the aforementioned 5.5-liter flat-plane V-8. Horsepower will be in the 825 to 850 range. McLaren's already figured out how to squeeze 804 hp from its 4.0-liter twin-turbo, flat-plane V-8 in the Elva. The engine masters at Chevy should have no problem extracting a bit more power than the kids in Woking with an extra liter and a half of displacement to play with. Torque should be ungodly. Beyond that, we know nothing more about the future ZR1. Price should start in the $120K neighborhood, similar to the C7 ZR1. 2023 Chevrolet Corvette PHEV There will be a Corvette hybrid—well, two actually, but let's concentrate on this one. Probably called E-Ray, expect the hybrid C8 to be an AWD plug-in hybrid (PHEV) with two motors on the front axle and possibly a third motor pancaked between the dual-clutch transmission and engine. Kiss the frunk goodbye, as that space will be used for the front traction motors and batteries. What will the engine be? Our source didn't have any new info for us on this one, other than to confirm that it's coming. But our educated bet is that the PHEV will rock the Z06's 5.5-liter NA V-8. Why? The LT1 in the base C8 is a fine old pushrod workhorse, but by the time this PHEV hits dealers, it'll be old. Very old. An engine that's a decade newer will have better engine management software, and we're thinking that would better complement (and future-proof) a modern C8 hybrid. Like, quicker computers and stuff—I'm not a scientician. But maybe not. We've heard other rumors that the LT1 will stick around, in detuned form. Hey, it's a known quantity, right? It's less likely, but maybe Chevy will go all BMW i8 and stick a V-6 or even an inline-four behind the driver? We just don't know. Yet. But as you'll read in a bit, there's good reason to think the hybrid will use the Z06's V-8. As for power, I figure the hybrid will slot in between the Z06 and the ZR1. A total system output of 775 hp feels about right. $100,000 for such a machine makes sense. Would there be room for a less expensive Corvette hybrid with a non-V-8? Oh yes, especially where it snows. 2024 Chevrolet Corvette Electric Have you heard? General Motors would like to sell totally emissions-free cars by 2035 and be carbon neutral as a corporation by 2040. You can't achieve those goals with big, fat, gas-burnin' V-8s, can you? Hence, an all-electric Corvette. Could the electric C8 Corvette be called E-Ray? Yes, it could be—but the important part is, we're sure it's coming, and it's safe to assume that the technology in the C8 hybrid will be shared with EV. In other words, you use the same motors for the front wheels and simply power them with a larger battery pack. Price? Probably less than the ZR1, as the C8 EV will use powertrain pieces from other GM electric vehicles. When does it arrive? 2024 is a good guess. All we know for sure is an EV C8 Corvette is imminent. 2025 Chevrolet Corvette Zora Woo! Meet Chevy's 1,000-plus-horsepower hypercar. We've been writing about the 2025 Corvette Zora for years. No, really—since August 2014. The Zora will use the twin-turbo V-8 from the ZR1 and the hybrid system from the hybrid—E-Ray or whatever it ends up being called. If you figure on 850 hp from the gas engine and 150 hp from the EV components, that gets you right to 1,000 hp. What if each motor produced 150 hp? That would be 1,150 hp. Yes, we're speculating, as Chevy is super tight-lipped about this monster C8. You can start to see the logic behind what the Corvette team is up to. By having the various power units effectively plug and play/mix and match with one another, you get a cost-benefit that keeps prices down across the range. It makes for some very fun math: Z06 engine + front-wheel motors = Corvette hybrid. ZR1 engine + front-wheel motors = Zora. Hence the Zora might start at the relatively cheap price of $150,000. That's what Deep Burble's telling us, at any rate. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-chevrolet-corvette-z06-c8-first-ride-review/ Winning Hearts, Not Just Minds Throughout the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06's design and development process, the team responsible for it was keenly aware of the respect the C8 Stingray has received in the wider sports-car community. To build on this respect, the Z06 needs to accelerate quicker and handle better, but it also needs to feel even more special. The Z06 must be a car that inspires buyers to eagerly swap their Lamborghini Huracán or Ferrari F8 for—and not because performance tests like MotorTrend's generate better numbers in it, or because of its value proposition. No, Chevy wants to conquest other brands' loyalists via the fact those customers' hearts and heads simply must have this Corvette with the banshee howl, the Can-Am sucker-car grip, and the cockpit-style cabin lined with soft leather and carbon-fiber trim. And because the Z06 promises to be the more satisfying driver's car. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-chevrolet-corvette-z06-lt6-v8-flat-plane-crankshaft-tech/ Bonus: Million-Dollar COVID Exhaust The Corvette team really hopes you like the exhaust sound because it was expensive. When the pandemic shut things down, spending also stopped. But the computers kept iterating exhaust system designs, resulting in this one with the center-exit. Everyone loved the sound but tearing up the rear fascia design to accommodate the centrally mounted reverse-megaphone exhaust tips cost "millions." Worth it!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-chevrolet-corvette-z06-lt6-v8-flat-plane-crankshaft-tech/ Not only is the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06's LT6 engine the largest flat-plane crankshaft V-8 in the world, it's also the world's most powerful naturally aspirated production V-8, leapfrogging the 622-hp 6.2-liter M159 engine that powered the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series from 2013-2014 and producing 670 hp at 8,400 rpm. How did Chevy more than manage to find "a replacement for [745 cubic centimeters' worth of] displacement" relative to that mighty Benz? With better breathing and by spinning the engine a lot faster—horsepower is, after all, just torque times rpm divided by 5,252. Also note that at 460 lb-ft this is not the world's torquiest V-8 (the Benz above made 468). Here are five ways Chevy accomplished this.

The next C8 to come out will be the E-Ray Hybrid. Speculation is sometime in 2023. The Z06 is gonna go on sale sometime in 2022. The Grand Sport was supposed to be the next one to be released, but that trim was replaced by a Hybrid Model. The E-Ray. The Grand Sport was supposed to use the 6.2 LT1 but with the Z06 body and aero. No word if it was going to be naturally aspirated or supercharged. Let me stress this part: The E-Ray replaces it What is the E-Ray? It will be AWD. Two electric motors will be powering the front wheels while the LT1 naturally aspirated 6.2 will be powering the rear wheels. It is believed that together as a unit, the electric motors assisting the internal combustion engine to have produce 600 HP and 500 and then some ft/lbs of torque. And of course a battery pack. No word on what KW/H battery it will be. That is still a top secret. No word on what the exterior body will look like. Will it have the Z51 body or will it have the Z06 body or will it even have the Z07 package?! THAT will be the other surprise. One COULD say that the E-Ray is slotted 1 small step above the Z06, but one has to remember that the Z06 is the one that is going to be the most track focused. That also does NOT mean that the E-Ray won't be the fastest around the Nürburgring. There is a lot of engineering in the LT6. If one took the time to read up on it, one wouldnt be casually dismissing it and what that engine means inside the Z06. *Cough* SMK *Cough* And bare in mind, that the Z06, even with the Z07 package, is NOT a comprised daily driver. It has leather, it has A/C. It has retained the trunk AND frunk where one COULD take the Z06/Z07 across the country from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from the Mexico border to the Canadian border, from Washington State to the Florida Keys, from Maine to California zig zagging across the counbtry in comfort while drag racing it and tracking it, then shipping it to Europe, do THAT continent in comfort and stopping at the 'Ring and back home. BECAUSE it HAS a trunk and a frunk, and THE latest magnetic ride control. And the lap times AT the 'Ring are said to be BELOW 7 seconds... Again...the Corvette C8 Z06 is NOT a compromised DAILY DRIVER and it WILL have 'Ring times BELOW 7 seconds... Its a pig of a car said to be 3400lbs. The internet is discussing if that is dry weight or with all its liquids. IIt wont be that bad if it was 3400lbs net weight. But the thing is, the Z06/Z07 IS a no compromise daily driver MASS produced track beast. It WONT be a garage queen. And it AINT a boutique, limited produced, illegal for the street, race machine costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. The Z06 is said to be BELOW 100 000 dollars. THAT is incredible engineering!!!! And if THAT does not impress you, the miracle of flight wont either...so there is nothing to argue about with a naysayer...

I literarily posted a link... And all of a sudden, 0-60 in 2.6 seconds is not fast enough for you. Get the phoque out of here!

My my... You are very offensive against the Z06 and very defensive... Why?

Not that Im into numbers. Im not. Not that the BMW M5 Comp aint fast, because it is. ESPECIALLY like what you say. Its big. Its got 4 doors. But it does NOT make 0-60 in 2.6 seconds. It makes that metric in 2.8 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36960485/2021-bmw-m5-competition-by-the-numbers/ 2021 BMW M5 Competition C/D TEST RESULTS 60 mph: 2.8 sec 100 mph: 6.7 sec 1/4-Mile: 10.9 sec @ 128 mph 130 mph: 11.2 sec 150 mph: 15.8 sec -------------------------------------------------- But there are 2 things with this. 1. Any given Sunday and these numbers will vary. 2. But most IMPORTANTLY, Car and Driver did the testing on the M5 Comp and THAT number is the best number THEY got for it on THAT particular day. Could be faster on another day. Could be slower. But 2.8 seconds is SLOWER than 2.6. BUT... Let us NOT forget that the 2.6 seconds comes from GM. GM ALWAYS gives us the performance numbers that are not THE fastest of what the car could actually do. That 2.6 second 0-60 time GM gave us is a CONSERVATIVE number. A number that any dolt driving the car could achieve. GM told us that the C8 Z51 did 0-60 in less than 3 seconds. 2.9 seconds they later said when they first released the C8. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-c8-corvettes-0-60-mph-quarter-mile-times/ According to Chevrolet, the official zero-to-60-mph time for Z51 cars like the one pictured here is 2.9 seconds, But CarandDriver when they did test it, got it to do 2.8 seconds on that particular day https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29458414/2020-chevy-corvette-zero-to-60-mph-tested/ and Road and Track in 2.7 seconds... https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a32105614/stock-c8-mid-engine-corvette-hits-0-60-in-2-7-seconds/ All to say that we could SAFELY say that the 0-60 times for the Z06 from CarandDriver and RoadandTrack could shave another second or two from what GM tells us the Z06 does... You really cannot NOT diss an American car, can you?

Yeah they will! You are forgetting that 1. The Corvette in general has had a LOYAL fan base TRACKING the car since the late 1950s... 2. The TRACK oriented Z06 model has had a LOYAL fan base TRACKING the car BECAUSE of the Corvette Racing program since the C5. The LOYAL fans, as much as they love that muscle car low end grunt of their Corvettes, they DO track their Corvette and with THIS engine, NOW they finally match the handling of a race car with the RIGHT and SUITED engine for tracking. The LS7 revved to 7000 RPM. They applauded that. They complained about the C7 Z06 BECAUSE it didnt REV that high and it wasnt N/A... 3. Corvette picked up quite a FEW new fans along the way with the C8. Fans that come from Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren. They LOVE the PUSHROD muscle car engine. But now, with this new LT6. They will feel right at home. So yeah! I dunno why you would wanna try to find negatives. There are none. Not with the 460 ft/lbs of torque. Not with the choice of using this engine. But...it aint a German car therefore it wont impress you. Like ever.

Z07 package I prefer the regular Z06. And its my favorite (exterior wise) C8 to date. In yellow or that tint coat red Chevy has I think Id prefer a 600 horse N/A LT1 with just about as much torques (600) in my fictional Z06 bodied C8. This is where a Grand Sport would have been, I think. Now, I think once more, an E-Ray Hybrid will take the place of the Grand Sport and will have about 600 hybrid horses in a Z06 body. Ill gladly hypothetically take that then.

Its finally here! 670 HP. The most powerful NATURALLY ASPIRATED V8. And it will probably BE that way! 460 ft/lbs of torque. It is a track car after all. In contrast, the LT6 5.5 liter revs to 8600 per minute. And what a song it sings!

Talked to my (our) lawyer today. Talked to a notary also. Not quite official, but it looks like major changes are coming. Maybe. Maye the course will right itself. Maybe it wont. Whatever happens, its not for now, but in the very near future. Bitter sweet situations as the other situation is very sweet indeed.

This teaser came out 5-6 days ago so me posting it now seems kinda pointless since there is just 1 more day left for the official reveal. Here it is anyway: