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Is that what has happened to Tesla thus far?

Tesla has a hill to climb in the truck market already. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-first-drive-review/ "The 2022 Rivian R1T Is the Most Remarkable Pickup We’ve Ever Driven Yep, we drove it. Are you ready for the electric truck revolution? The 2022 Rivian R1T is the first mass-produced electric truck to hit the U.S. market, but that's hardly the most interesting thing about it. Its electric powertrain notwithstanding, the R1T is unlike any pickup we've ever driven—part truck, part sport sedan, and 100 percent amazing. It's been speculated that pickup buyers are too conservative to embrace electrification, but after our first drive in a pre-production Rivian R1T, both on-road and off-, we think this is the electric truck that will turn them into believers. There's so much we want to tell you about the Rivian R1T that it's difficult to pick a place to start, so let's begin with the basic layout. Sizewise, the R1T is a tweener, slotting somewhere between a midsize pickup like the Chevy Colorado and a traditional half-tonner like the Ford F-150. The Rivian R1T's shape and compact bed mimic those of "lifestyle" trucks like the Honda Ridgeline and Hyundai Santa Cruz, but it'll tow 11,000 pounds according to Rivian and rock crawl like a Jeep Gladiator according to us. And it jets around corners like no pickup truck ever has. ..."

Heck, BMW doesn't even have ONE all-electric truck or SUV to compete with Rivian.

They're new. They can't initially drop a 6 vehicle lineup. The point was just that they offer two vehicles out of the gate, both of which are HUGE selling body styles here in the US, NOT a sedan. I guess, technically they have a work van as well.

This is news to me, as well. I thought they started at like 100k (not the 150 smk was claiming).

They immediately have a truck and SUV.

I thought there have been... But this is a modern Alfa so I wouldn't think so. Good point there.

Also, what's going on with the rotor and two calipers, on what looks like the front? I assumed that was the parking brake but isn't that always on the rear? I guess with the damage it could still be the rear.

Corvette. SUV.

We will never know...

I guess we will see how the Mustangs go. Away? No. Adding one next to their other Mustang to drive daily? Yes.

100%. It would be too late to do so now but if they developed an EV version, I'd be all for it. Heck, even 5 years ago would have been plenty fine. A Mustang wasn't a "AWD 4-dr SUV" either, until they made one. Why, would it make you not buy one? ?

I could me mistaken, but GM has the most generic CUV/SUV lineup of any company. Nobody has a more bland and boring lineup. The only ones that stand out at the big boys in the Tahoe, 'Burban, 'Slade.

Pipe dreaming is exactly what it is. There's also nothing wrong with that.

Then you don't think very hard. I didn't say "sports car SUV". "sporty" is not the same. Kind of like a sporty station wagon. I know that's a concept you understand.

I don't think you're understanding how branding within a corporation can and does work.

Mustang was a model as well, until it was a brand and they made a specific model based off the name. Based on that logic, why ever make a sporty SUV? I mean, "most" are just driven daily to and from work and Walmart. I'd even wager "most" Corvettes aren't driven all out every time either. Why even make the Corvette?

General Motors has zero RWD-based SUV's that compete with high end sporty SUVs. In fact, GM has zero sporty SUVs across all 17 brands. Correct, and Chevy had no Corvette until they made the Corvette. That's exactly how things work.

I still see zero issues with a Corvette-branded SUV sitting along side a Corvette. Make it Cayenne-sized and competitive and it would sell like hot cakes.

Corvette is already a brand of its own as they don't even put Chevrolet badges on the car.

I'd be okay with a Corvette-branded SUV as long as they keep the 2-seater as well.

Welcome back! I have not worked at a car dealership before.

...what...? It's not hard once you're building up internals and drivetrain parts for 1000hp. They're already known to snap half shafts running bone stock so there's a starting point.

Street racing or unsanctioned racing the Plaid would look even better, because unprepped surfaces. As we already know though, whatever they're selling now need more than just a trans brake. 45k in mods and you have an unreliable vehicle and a Plaid can "do it all".

Correct but it's kind of a goal post move when you say this after also saying there's constant one-upping each other, except Dodge has eliminated their quickest car. Regardless, a Model S Plaid pretty well whoops anything from a factory showroom, including Dodge's 800hp+ machines. I love big V8 power but the Demon was kind of a joke. From what I've read, rarely can owners actually get into the 9's and to do so, you have to then make your car illegal on the streets, eliminating a lot of the cool-factor, imo. So take a Demon, and how much needs to get dumped into it to beat a Plaid? I'd assume it'll fall about in line with what a Plaid costs.