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You are 100% wrong on your "no reason" claim because you clearly don't see the reason why I said what I said, which had nothing to with the Murano vs Bolt roominess. I laid out the problem with your first assessment and you took it as something else entirely. The argument is over and done with. Move on.
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@ccap41--I know it's not a literal thing but it did show the attitude you tried to have with me just because I didn't agree with you.
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Says the person who told me to "GTFO" like I don't have the right to speak. If you don't like me disagreeing with you, that is your problem and your problem alone. Seriously. You need to get over yourself and move on with your day.
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You keep telling yourself whatever it is you have to tell yourself. I made my statement and I stand by it. No one is following you around. I was the first one commenting on the Blazer thread so it seems like you are just being paranoid. I, nor anyone else for that matter, are not here just to agree with everything someone says. And who gives two $h!s about "likes"? You have stated in the past that they are not a big thing so why make that argument now? "Likes" aren't $h!. Your first post here, however, shows the attitude you came in here with. And for the record, I went back to the actual subject of that thread so...
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Now, while I'm not happy about the Blazer name going on yet another CUV, it is not surprising. Nissan did it with the Pathfinder and Ford did it with the Explorer. These are the times right now and maybe one day, actual SUV fans will get some more choices (looking at you Bronco). -
Me? Who said to "GTFO" because I gave a counter argument? That would be you. It wasn't a comparison other than ccap ragging on dfelt CUVs remarks while not understanding why he would love the Bolt (which has been explained by dfelt many times in the past).
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For its size, it has excellent cargo flexibility and it has been pointed out by just about every major publication.
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Bias has literally nothing to do with the fact that he fits in the Bolt just fine while most CUVs do not fit the same bill.
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Then you have never paid attention to what dfelt has said regarding the room in the Bolt. He fits in it just fine because of a tall greenhouse (I believe he even provided a picture of him in it as reference, on the previous page). Not sure what is so hard to understand about it, so much that a non-sensical and snide remark had to be made about it, all because you couldn't make the distinction in his comparison.
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The Honda CR-V doesn't have that rakish back (and never has) and has been a top seller for years mostly because of it's versatility in the cargo space in a small package. Personally I think offering a choice between the rakish and a more traditional box style is a good thing and GM is filling both needs. Show me where that is a problem.
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Context can be a challenge for those looking to just antagonize others. This why actual user experience trumps paper experience.
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And just so I am clear here, I am not taking a dump on anyone's preference here. You get what you like and shouldn't have to worry about what anyone else thinks about your buying decisions. I just have a general disdain for CUVs for many reasons. Peace all.
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And one doesn't pretend to be something it is not. That's the key difference here. I had a ton of floor space in my Magnum but height was an issue and it was long and body, the lliftgate was the issue (although the unique design of the loft gate mitigated most issues unlike the Muranos). However, the Magnum did this without having to increase its ride height and If I'm going to look for something with more top to bottom space, then a Murano is not the answer. A Durango, on the other hand, would fit the bill without having to go full size. For the record, the Magnum has seven more cubic feet of space with the seats down (74 vs. 67) so I rest my case about the fluff over function part of CUVs like the Murano. Going to disagree there because the GLE is hideous and a perfect example of its uselessness as far as utility goes. Coupe style CUVs need to go.
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I was speaking, more or less, of my disdain for the sloped roof tall cars calling themselves "utility" when my old Magnum was more versatile. I do agree that it is good to have choices though so don't think I'm poopooing the idea of them. I just think most of them are fluff over function.
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Again, reference my "just one time" remark. Load something big and boxy in that Murano and see how that works out when you can't close the lift gate. There are others that do a much better job of having usable space all the way around and not just for laying your golf clubs in. Hell I can do that with a Chevy Sonic sedan so maybe that's not the best comparison here.
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Speaking more along the lines of the new Traverse and the GMC twins. The Traverse got rid of the sloped minivan look for a much more utilitarian look (and a better look IMO). The Acadia is much the same here. Whatever the Blazer turns out he will be the exception here and I've already made it clear that this new model should not carry the Blazer name for reasons already stated.
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GM is not guilty of what I'm saying though Drew and I thought I made that pretty clear. Way to miss the point entirely.
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Says you because not everyone needs a Suburban. Going midsize doesn't mean you should have to compromise on room just because the lastest design fad is a sloped roofline. The GC and Durango are perfect examples of midsize design and utility done right in a midsize.
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Not disagreeing there but you said he stating that they should not be sold when he never said that. That was my point. It was also meant to highlight the fact that they all need not be the same basic shape (as Reg suggests). While I hate CUVs, at least GM is bucking the tall car trend a bit and putting out something that won't be confused with every other CUV in the mall parking lot. Once a year doesn't sound like a big deal until you need that extra space that ONE time. Not everyone needs the bed of a pick up but just one use makes it worth the price of admission for a lot of folks.
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He made a clear distinction that they are not good for big people, not that they shouldn't be sold at all. My bigger issue with them is the compromised cargo room in the back and the tall car look that is simply boring to look at and honestly, fairly unoriginal at this point.
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So not only should they look like everyone else, but they should mimic the equal amount of uselessness that is inherit in these "rakish" designs (i.e. Compromised cargo room)? Yeah, I'll pass and so should GM.
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When has it ever been a good idea for a GM to be more like a Ford (and vice versa)? More people are actually like the more truck like look of the Acadia. The Traverse seems to be getting a similar reaction. If I have to pick my poison with a CUV (since I really don't care for any CUVs), I would actually take one that didn't look a like tall car.
