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  1. surreal1272
    If Tesla is the future and Cadillac is the past then you can add Mercedes to that past list as well (and no supposed upcoming EV vaporware doesn't count). Also, as much as I like the Tesla S, the 3 is fugly, options out at $59K (not much lower than a base S) and Tesla has yet to prove that they can back up this mass production claim of theirs. Sorry but Tesla is the wrong argument to use here. Furthermore, Cadillac does not need to price their sedans lower than their CUV counterparts just because you say they do. The fact that Benz gets away with identical pricing proves my point.
  2. surreal1272
    You keep talking about needing a price gap between the sedan and CUV yet a MB CLA and GLA (platform mates btw) share the same entry price of just north of $32K. Point here is that you keep applying rules to everyone else that your own favorite brand doesn't even do. Sorry but that kills your entire argument about price structures. We wont even get too far into the Tesla and Alfa comparisons. Alfas are piles and the 3 clocks in at $60K with reasonable options, putting it way above the target price of the CT5. Furthermore, you are making yet another baseless assumption that it can't compete against a C Class. Until it comes out, your entire claim is just moot.
  3. surreal1272
    Hence why I said $40K and not $45K. Furthermore, comparing it to an XT5 is pointless. The only common thing between the two is the number "5". They are two completely different platforms and again with the CT4 slotted beneath the CT5, it makes even less sense to start at $35K. Again, this is pretty much common sense to anyone who is not trolling just for the sake trolling.
  4. surreal1272
    I don't care what he said. That's just a safe range for the sake of putting a number to it. It means nothing until the actual product is released. Mark my words. It will not start under $40K given current trends and the fact that a smaller CT4 will be slotted underneath. 2006 was a totally different market back then and you know that so comparing that is just pointless. And again, Benz needs the volume whereas Cadillac does not for the most part. I'm not going to explain to you for the upteenth time why that is the case.
  5. surreal1272
    Why bother arguing with someone who has the hypocrisy to call Cadillacs rebadged Equinoxes while his lord and savior rebadges a Nissan Frontier/Navara? It is just same old tired arguments with no original thought. His other post doesn't even merit a response. And given that the current CTS starts at $45K, a few grand drop would do it some good. It will not be anywhere near $35K when they have a CT4 planned, something a Benz troll clearly does not get.
  6. surreal1272
    You think way to highly of the E Class considering that the CTS will still be there, just under a different that has been in the works for a while now. And im with Balth. The E63 would be $h! if it didn't have the CTS-V to benchmark. Fact. Do you not read? Nevermind. It was rhetorical. Is that better or worse than a rebadged Nissan Frontier? I'm asking for a friend.
  7. surreal1272
    I'm failing to see the problem here despite the usual naysayers trolling remarks. Basically the CTS becomes the CT5 and the ATS becomes the CT4. That's three different sedans plus a potential CT8 flagship model to go with the additional CUVs planned. This has been in the works for years. At least they are not pulling a Mercedes and putting out an even smaller FWD car (the A Class) to go underneath the already small FWD CLA. It will all be RWD like a luxury car is supposed to be.
  8. surreal1272
    So what? That still doesn't change the fact that pretty much everyone else knew better. You are not unique in your position here. Furthermore, he also stated that the ATS would become the CT4 (which it is) so your statement isn't even entirely correct in that department either. In other words, saying "called it" really doesn't carry much weight when so many others here also "called it" in one form or another.
  9. surreal1272
    In fairness, so did everyone else.
  10. surreal1272
    Maybe he needs to scale it down to two companies and 80 hours.
  11. surreal1272
    Honestly I have nothing other than Musk needs to get his $h! together fast.
  12. surreal1272
    And this why I will never buy another new car from a dealer, if I can help it. They are proven cheats who don't give two $h!s about the product. All they care about is a buck and then more bucks when they can screw over people. Tesla was right and dealers are obsolete in this day and age (no offense to anyone who works in the industry and is actually honest btw) and they are only hastening their demise with tactics like these. Sorry about that. Rant over.
  13. surreal1272
    They are only comparable to a point and that is what Stew does not get. The Regal is priced in line with the competition while offering things they clearly don't have. Can you get AWD on the Camry or Accord? No. Can you get a hatch, which adds cargo room? No. Those two things alone kill any comparison to those other two cars. @Stew--Yes apples to oranges for reasons I just stated. As far as your ridgeline and Colorado comparison, at least those two are more alike than what you have been serving up by bringing up the Accord and Camry. Again, it's not just me saying this. Drew brought up many good points as to why your comparisons are just off base and honestly it's just more of your bitter GM BS because of how you see people criticize FCA. You said it yourself.
  14. surreal1272
    So you do the reverse and bitch about GMs offerings based on the same "logic" by making apples to oranges comparisons? That sounds perfectly reasonable. Again, the Accord and Camry are not luxury nor are they marketed as such. They also do not offer AWD. You also cherry picked your argument by ignoring literally every reason why the GS can beat out the Fusion Sport (which was carefully pointed out by Drew, which (btw) has a far more mundane interior than the GS but we will just skip over that so that you can still have the "and it's cheaper" argument. Good grief. What is ironic here is that Chrysler is offering the same old 3.6L V6 AWD on the 300 for the same amount of money as the GS, while being a much older model and platform with a much more dated interior. By all means though, keep bitching about GM though.
  15. surreal1272
    Exactly. Might as well just give up because SMK said so. Can't have all that pesky competition to worry about so might as well do nothing and let other get the sales. I am just baffled by that kind of "logic". And the Alfa is still an Alfa. If this has to be explained, in relation to low sales, then there is just no hope for some.
  16. surreal1272
    If I were in the market, I would be taking a serious look at the AWD wagon.
  17. surreal1272
    But that's the price you pay for top notch German engineering lol. The best or nothing.
  18. surreal1272
    Just stop. You didn't have the increase right and you are completely incapable of comparing apples to apples. The price increase is justified much in the same way Mercedes justified a $2K increase on the CLA barely one year after it came out (thus killing those wonderful "Get a Mercedes for less than $30K" ads) You have issues with the price no matter what because it doesn't have a Benz emblem on the hood. Stop pretending otherwise.
  19. surreal1272
    This what happens when you use a mobile goal post. I'm done with the excuses. German cars are resale $h! after their leases run out and leases are the only way that the Germans can move a bulk of their cars here because no one wants a long term commitment with them for reasons already stated here. Back to the CLA beating Regal GS.
  20. surreal1272
    False comparison since there isn't a Buick that sells for $80K+ new. The sheer precerntage drop on that car is mind boggling considering its "cache". It's why you probably got a smoking deal on your old E Class And again, GM does not have to justify its price to you when Drew pretty clearly laid out why the GS is priced just right against the competition. The new one is leaps and bounds better than the outgoing model so a price increase is to be expected, just like everyone else does when they put out a much better model, Benz included. False comparison since there isn't a Buick that sells for $80K+ new. And again, GM does not have to justify its price to you when Drew pretty clearly laid out why the GS is priced just right against the competition. The new one is leaps and bounds better than the outgoing model so a price increase is to be expected, just like everyone else does when they put out a much better model, Benz included. This article is four years old but I don't see any Buicks but it is littered with German cars. https://www.google.com/amp/jalopnik.com/5982789/the-most-depreciated-cars-of-the-past-ten-years/amp
  21. surreal1272
    How many more times do you want to be wrong today? The Regal is $2K LESS than the outgoing model and no longer has the Verano overlapping it. "It goes on sale in November with a starting price of $25,915, which is $2,000 less than the outgoing model. The lower starting price is to retain Verano buyers with the discontinuation of the lower-priced sedan." And those buyers you speak of are mostly leases because no one want the maintenance hassle and $h!ty residual values after two years. Fact
  22. surreal1272
    Not to mention the German have $h!ty resale and then some. When I can pick up a 2008 S Class for $14K, that tells me all I need to know. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/ctd/d/mercedes-benz-class-dr/6227281584.html
  23. surreal1272
    The current Regal is not E Class size (4 inches shorter) and you are making excuses because that Regal spanked that CLA. Since the Regal undercuts the smaller CLA by $7K, I guess that makes the CLA grossly overpriced yet not a peep from you on that. The GS is a top tier Regal (with a V6 regardless of your silly torque statement) and is cheaper than a top tier Lacrosse. By your logic I guess we can bitch about the CLA crossing the price line of the C Class. Sorry but your entire argument is just bogus. Good grief. Your arguments get to tired and old. I've made my point as has everyone else. Mercedes is not god and they far more overpriced than any Buick, end of story.
  24. surreal1272
    You really want to talke price difference rip offs while touting Mercedes? Where did you get the wheels for your goalpost? I'm asking for a friend. BTW, the Regal now has three very distinct models and the $25K starting price was to get those Verano holdovers. It running up to $39K is small change compared to the 4Matic CLA, which while $4K cheaper, it also offers far less equipment and far less power (along with fewer cylinders). It is priced just fine across all three models when compared to the competition. And again, the current model Regal GS has already beat the CLA in the most recent comparos. How do you think it's going to work out for the CLA when the '18 GS comes out? I'd be embarrassed, quite frankly, with all that talk about the "Best or Nothing" when Benz is clearly not always the best.
  25. surreal1272
    Funny thing is that I think the Maxima looks way better than the Q50 and the Regal looks far better (and with a hatch that is far more versatile) than both. I think I need to purchase my own set of goal posts too. Hopefully it has wheels on the bottom.
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