surreal1272
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But the only advantage the ZL1 has over its Cadillac kin is horsepower, which as Balth was alluding to, is not the be all end all metric.The same question could be asked of Ford as well. Why does Ford get the $400K super car while Lincoln gets yet another CUV?And I completely agree that Lincoln should be the premium brand if that's what Lincoln is supposed to be for them but Lincoln is basically junk in comparison to Caddy. Lincoln is a century away from having anything performance-oriented. Either way my opinion stands. I think Caddy should be the one with the super car first and the ATS/CTS should have gotten the 650/640hp/tq first. Not so much that Chevy shouldn't use it but that caddy should have gotten it first. I kind of view the Vette as its own thing because caddy doesn't have anything there yet but whatever the new mid-engine Vette is, I think should start as a Cadillac. First, Cadillac has been sporting 640HP for two years now with the Vette being the only other beneficiary of it until the upcoming ZL1. Second, who's do say they don't bump the power of the CTS-V by then? My point stands that this is much ado about nothing.
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When in the last 50 years has Cadillac had more HP than Chevrolet, never mind higher performance? 1965 : Cadillac ~ 340, Chevy ~ 375 1975 : Cadillac ~ 190, Chevy ~ 235 Gotta love these arbitrary mandates from out of nowhere... 1996 Corvette 300 hp 1996 Seville STS 300 hp And?
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But the only advantage the ZL1 has over its Cadillac kin is horsepower, which as Balth was alluding to, is not the be all end all metric. The same question could be asked of Ford as well. Why does Ford get the $400K super car while Lincoln gets yet another CUV?
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Yeah.. but under the new Platform policies being put into place.. I'd rather see Corvette CUV then R.I.P Corvette. Anyway.. Porsche fans felt the same before 2002. Avg 1300 sales a month later since.. and investment money to produce better Porsches.. they shut their effin mouths. Oh.. did I mention a Corvette Family Sedan too.. to compete with the 500 avg per month sales of the Panamera? The Corvette isn't going anywhere and they damn sure don't need to stamp the name on a CUV.
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And the Miata is far more of a niche car and sells at much lower volume. To go up in cylinder count would mean a totally new car, a far cry difference from how the D3 cars can be optioned. It is just a silly comparison to make. Also, given recent sales numbers, the price increase on these cars is not really hurting them (save for the Camaro to an extent). It's just not an apples to apples comparison IMO.
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No. Because the Cadillac fans have a LT4 in the CTSV. Not only that.. The ATS-V is a car in and of itself. For your constant instigating questions I pose this.. f@#kin C63AMG or M3 fans have an issue that the ZL1 will have 200 more Hp than they?But it's in a Chevy not a Cadillac is what he's getting at. Cadillac should be number 1 then Chevy number 2 not vise versa. I also doubt C63 or M4 fans care about anything Chevy because most likely their head is too far up their ass or nose too high in the air to notice. Then you're both missing the point. The ATS-V still has the luxury quotient that the Camaro will never have and a more usable cabin. That is what most Caddy buyers are concerned with and I don't think any of them are complaining about the performance of them unless someone here can show evidence to the contrary. SMK is, yet again, trying to create a negative scenario that only he is concerned about and only brings up because it's not a Benz we are talking about.
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The 2015 Z/28 and ZL1 have virtually identical 0-60 and 1/4 miles times and trap speeds (per road and track on both cars) so I'm not sure how a ZL1, which is heavier than the Z btw, would hand the Z it's breakfast anywhere, much less the track. The only real advantage, other than HP, of ZL1 is it much better riding on normal roads and easier to drive but that's about it.
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Agreed about the Malibu. I have been seeing those everywhere around Phoenix. Wondering why such a bug drop in one month (aside from the fact that Chevy was fire selling them at this time last year). The Camaro is still taking a beating though without a real explanation.
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If Bong, Surreal and Mr. Fordcosworth somehow look like this: Then I wont mind any further Mustang versus Camaro pillow fights. Ill let my fantasies run wild. But Sadly...THIS is the reality of these Mustang versus Camaro Pillow Fights... I merely gave the facts. No drama on my part and no skin off my back if some here have a problem with the facts.
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Yes. Tomorrow, tomorrow...Like the ZL1 and 1LE And unlike the SS, the MR will be standard and not an option. On a near $50K car, it damn well better be standard. As it stands, you can get MRC cheaper on a 2SS than you will be able to get on the 2017 GT350. Yes the MR should be standard equipment on 50k + cars like the GT350 and Corvette. Nice to Ford rectify this. Of course Chevy gives it to you for $42K on the 2SS package.
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Yes. Tomorrow, tomorrow...Like the ZL1 and 1LE And unlike the SS, the MR will be standard and not an option. On a near $50K car, it damn well better be standard. As it stands, you can get MRC cheaper on a 2SS than you will be able to get on the 2017 GT350.
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Saw this and thought "well, at least they got some fresh air and exercise" (sarcasm wholly intended here). http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/183993920-story
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It really needs to rain here already.
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Exactly.
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Reduce the dependence on fleet/rentals and profits will pick up. Again, these are the exact same things that some stockholders here criticized GM for just a few years ago. They may forget that fact but it doesn't change it from being a fact. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they have convenient excuses that they sure as hell did not offer GM during those years.
