surreal1272
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None of those CUVs, that they get the bulk of their sales from these days, have the "heritage" you speak of yet I couldn't help but notice that you skipped over that part. I'm with Balth btw. The letter schemes being used by car companies these days is just too generic and lacks identity. My point to you is that if it is a knock on Cadillac, then it is also a knock on Mercedes. Mercedes first SUV was the G, all their SUVs now have G in the name. And hard for a GLK or GLC to have heritage when it came out in 2009. But they have kept the naming nomenclature similar , and it is consistent across the line. Guess you forgot about the ML and your statement about the year the GLC came illustrates why Cadillac did what they did. The old name scheme had to go. As much heritage as those names held at one time, by 2000 no one gave two craps about them because Cadillac was no longer what they once were. The names became synonymous with the junk years at GM. To make a fresh start, they had to change the naming on them once the new models came out. Again, I'm not crazy about any of the letter named cars from any make. They just come off as generic, whether it is from Cadillac or Mercedes.
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Sometimes you have to walk the walk if you're going to talk the talk.
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All I'm asking is that this changing of my words in the quotes needs to stop. Its happened three times on this thread alone and all were done by the same person. It's childish and just a bit condescending.
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Oh the horror. They'll give it options! Now what's the standard equipment on the 3 that hasn't even been spotted in the wild outside of one presentation?
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Oh good grief. Again, overblown unless you want a car that might come out next year, or the year after, or the year after that, from a company with a limited sales network vs. an established brand that already has a physical car on its way that will end up being the same price or cheaper (given GMs pricing schemes). For most, this alleged savings will not be worth it for so little gain in range.
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None of those CUVs, that they get the bulk of their sales from these days, have the "heritage" you speak of yet I couldn't help but notice that you skipped over that part. I'm with Balth btw. The letter schemes being used by car companies these days is just too generic and lacks identity. My point to you is that if it is a knock on Cadillac, then it is also a knock on Mercedes.
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You're right. Who would want a longer range? Oh good grief drama queen. Of course people want longer ranges but here's the thing that you clearly don't get. At $35k(37,500), they are getting longer range than anything else in that price range by long shot. What is so hard to understand about that? Except the Model 3 and it's starting price is $2,500 cheaper. Allegedly and it will be out after the Bolt at this point. It also has a whole fifteen miles more range while being so "slippery". Like I said, it is overblown.
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Who cares, in daily driving that little tiny bit does not make that big of a difference and the looks of the Bolt are way better than the Prius or Tesla IMHO. Efficiency is noticed daily. Every time you commute somewhere the vehicle's efficiency matters. Bolt looks terrible compared to the Tesla but better than the Prius, but that doesn't really matter as that isn't really the topic and it's opinion based anyway... If the 200 mile range Bolt could claim 220miles, wouldn't that be better? 0.08 isn't a "tiny" amount. If you keep the Bolt within city limits, it won't batter as your speeds will rarely see north of 40mph. Beyond that is where the benefits multiply for an efficient aero package on a vehicle. Sorry but this whole argument is overblown. 200 miles is still far more than any other EV is this price range. You're right. Who would want a longer range? Oh good grief drama queen. Of course people want longer ranges but here's the thing that you clearly don't get. At $35k, they are getting longer range than anything else in that price range by long shot. What is so hard to understand about that?
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Way better looking than the butt ugly i3 car from BMW. that is truly ugly just like the Prius. I take this bolt over the BMW i3 or the prius any day.The Prius' drag coefficient is only 0.24 though. Huge difference.Tesla Model X is also 0.24!Who cares, in daily driving that little tiny bit does not make that big of a difference and the looks of the Bolt are way better than the Prius or Tesla IMHO.Efficiency is noticed daily. Every time you commute somewhere the vehicle's efficiency matters. Bolt looks terrible compared to the Tesla but better than the Prius, but that doesn't really matter as that isn't really the topic and it's opinion based anyway... If the 200 mile range Bolt could claim 220miles, wouldn't that be better? 0.08 isn't a "tiny" amount. If you keep the Bolt within city limits, it won't batter as your speeds will rarely see north of 40mph. Beyond that is where the benefits multiply for an efficient aero package on a vehicle. Sorry but this whole argument is overblown. 200 miles is still far more than any other EV is this price range.
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I am talking about the naming schemes that you give Mercedes a free pass on while criticizing Cadillacs naming scheme. Good grief man. Try to keep up here. Now that you say it though, where is the Mercedes EV? I hear and read a lot of talk but until I see one at my local MB dealership, it is just as much vapor ware as anything by Cadillac.
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Again, granting Mercedes excuses that you don't afford to anyone else.
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Mercedes rebadged ( extent of which is unknown ) Nissan = bad? Chevrolet rebadged 100% Nissan = good? Seems Chevy is coming across as an also-ran in the Van segment. Again, apples to oranges comparison and it has been explained to you as to why that's the case.And before you start off about rebadging and the resulting also ran status, I have two words for you...Mercury Villager.
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The Chinese ones (and the Kia Amanti) are obvious rip offs but it is a stretch to say that the Nissan is ripping off the Porsche. Only the profile is similar, nothing else.
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All I see are excuses why it's okay for Mercedes to borrow from a mainstream pick up maker and why it's not okay for GM to do it from within the company, even though the Escalade does not share one common exterior panel or interior piece with its GM cousins.
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How so? They are the same car with different badges.
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For a second there I thought you were talking about the rebadged Nissan van with the bow tie on it. My bad. Apples to oranges. Mainstream Chevy borrowing a van from mainstream Nissan? Odd but not unusual nor does it cheapen the overall brand. Luxury car makers Mercedes borrowing a pick up from mainstream Nissan is a different beast altogether. Your trolling was obvious and debunked. Seriously? Good grief. No wonder no one can talk to you. You just go back in the same pointless circle every time Mercedes gets called out.
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Two words for you. So what? You want to basically insult Cadillac and GM for using the GMT platform for the Escalade but still give a free pass to Mercedes going one step beyond that and using someone else's truck. Maybe if you would stop sticking your foot in your mouth regarding this, you would not get called out on it so much.
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Tesla Posts Their 13th Straight Quarterly Loss
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And both Chevy and Cadillac are owned by...GM as opposed to Benz borrowing a Nissan which is not owned by them. Understand the difference yet?
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Be careful Olds. Some of them seem to be a sensitive bunch.
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It is very different or else these would not come out as a sub brand. The AMG may be considered a "sub brand" but it is more along the lines of the V Series for Cadillac (obviously on a grander scale though) while the EV sub brand sounds like it is going to be more like how Scion was to Toyota, which was clearly a fail just like the BMW EV route. Now, I am not saying that is how it will go because there isn't that much information to go off of but that is the feeling I am getting here. Time will tell until the Paris debut.
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Huh? The 1LE will start just above a loaded Shelby and annihilate it? I think you mean ZL1. And in that case, I'm more interested in seeing how that car and the Hellcat compare...a more direct competitor. He is referring to the 1LE package on the 1SS coupe (in the first part). The second mention of the 1LE was clearly meant as the ZL1.
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Kitchen ware is 2 isles over And the manure is in the outdoor section.
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LOL! It is a genuine question though since it is obvious that they don't want their EV cars to intermingle with the rest of the group. Now if the down voter could offer a counter to that assertion, that would be great (as opposed to just being a brat about it).
