Intrepidation

I could be wrong but wasn't some of the reasoning for it not selling was the early models had retarded option package where you had to get the V8 to get the sunroof for example? Plus styling wise, it looks like a wagon, and we hate wagons for some stupid reason. Oh and the pre-refreshed model had the same not-so-great interior the original CTS had.

poppy

Probably, as it's still replacing the RWD crossover with a FWD crossover, based on Theta and Epsilon...two platforms that aren't premium, and neither currently award winning. Plus the proportions from t he side leave a lot to be desired. That being said it should do fine so long as it's priced right and handles well. Plus it looks better in the video than GM's photos.

Well I see where GM got its inspiration from for the last gen Silverado/Sierra tail lights!

Yeah but if one of those crashes it can hurt or kill more people than a couple of cars.

Yup, 2 months is nothing, if you want to platy it safe change the oil and check the fluids/tires. That's all she wrote. Besides, it a newer car, there's very low likely hood of something going wrong.

I never got why people dislike the STS so much, it has always been reviewed well.

I'm glad NE at least has the sense to use salt and actually plow the roads.

IT does look a lot better in motion than static photos.

I think it would be worth the extra time and extra cash. :wink:

It's a sad day when Lexus builds the more attractive car. This competes with the GS I think? Well I've always liked the current GS, and would buy one before I ever bought this E-Class. It may not be exciting to look at but at least it's cohesive. Hail the Challenger and Camaro!

If it were me I'd try looking for a used current gen, those are much higher quality based on what I've seen at least. Of course then I'd rather have the Tahoe or Suburban, as the front ends look better IMO, although the Sierra still has an edge over the Silverado. Hell, edmunds shows that a used `07 Sierra Denali 69.3" runs around $25,000. I'd rather spend the extra grand or three and get a far better truck.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/27/seattle...-roads-by-desi/ Not long ago, Washington state's Department of Ecology was making noises about not letting people wash their cars at home because "what goes on the street goes into the creek." Now the state is on the opposing side of Seattle's efforts not to let harmful chemicals wash into the freshwater streams feeding into Puget Sound. Seattle is not using salt to clear the roads because it doesn't want the salt flowing into waterways. As well, the city's snow plows have rubber-edge blades that can clear snow, but can't get the ice off the road. Seattle's DOT cheif says the city is trying to "create a hard-packed surface" of snow. It will then lay sand down over the hardpack in order to offer enough traction to cars, and employ a soy-based de-icer only good for temps below 32 degrees. The hitch: only 4-wheel-drive and front-wheel-drive cars with chains have any traction. That means that even the police can't drive on many roads. If the police make a call to a location on a hill, they park at the bottom and walk up the hill. As well, the police are having to respond to literally hundreds of collisions and disabled vehicles. The state DOT has taken a much different tack: it is using sand, salt, metal-edged plows, and chemical de-icer in its battle with the elements. Seattle is now experimenting with a "silver bullet" concoction that is saltwater from a cheese factory, calcium chloride, and de-sugared molasses. [source: Seattle Times]

One of my favorites: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere 2-door hardtop.

I don't like what Chrysler did with the 1962 Imperial's front end. The Cadillac is nice, is a but surprisingly my pick is the Continental. I think it's a great looking car inside and out. Also, factory suicide doors FTW. This is a `61 because I couldn't find any decent photos of a `62

Because image conscious buys are moving away from minivans to less practical, "more stylish" crossovers. Jeep sure, but again the problem. If You downsize the company to that size, making nothing special or exclusive, you loose lots of money, customers, and of course the layoff would be massive. Bad plan.

WANT!

I never liked the EXT's, they looks so disproportionate...too long an narrow.

I vote 1337 |-|4XX0R (not really)

That reminds me, I want a special title too.

Saw a black Edsel convertible ina used car lot near my house over the summer. They are unique. They aren't pretty but not nearly as ugly as other cars I've seen.

By popular (my own) demand, I present the Official Pet Thread! I'll kick things off with photos of our pets. Our ham, Patches Her brother, Bear Our rescued cat, who we found, of all places, in a PetSmart parking lot near Christmas 2 years ago, Ginger Our oldest cat, Rose Our biggest cat, "The Lump", rescued when he was a stray kitten, Spitfire and our two Silver Tip "Sharks" Ula and Murry, who we finally decided to name after owning them for 3 years, back when they were the size of a pinky, now they're two-third's the length of my forearm.

How about an official one?