balthazar
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http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-the-origin-story-2014-10
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Sure, but I'm pretty sure before Car #1 there were sketches, computer renderings, planning stages, etc. Tesla preliminary handout, fall 2003 (5 years before the Roadster) :
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Not yet. Tesla started with talk/ planning/ modeling/ etc- all modern hopeful OEMs do. And you well know the cost of a start-up is tremendous.
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Anyone seen much about this entity? "Super luxury line with NG V-16". http://www.godsilmotorcars.com/vision.html https://twitter.com/GodsilMotorcars
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You keep using that word 'copy', but I do not think it means what you think it means. Copy:
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You already watch more TV than I do; there's no show I "love". Netflix I've also found to be relatively barren.
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I laugh when 'device' commercials talk about 'catch your favor shows anytime, anywhere' when there's nothing broadcast worth bothering with. Days go by without me watching. I have taken in the first 2 episodes of AHS- but if it doesn't hold my interest, I'll bail.
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We can dispense with this sentiment- I've been reading this as far back as 30 years ago. BBs are also the demographic buying Mercedes. It's not generational, its the demographic. As far as the ATS being a better 3-series.... if BMW improves the 3-series to outperform the ATS, are they then benchmarking/copying Cadillac?
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So IYO- building a competitor that mirrors the size class dimensions means Cadillac is "copying" BMW? Is everyone else building a car to that close dimensionally also 'copying', and who presented those dimensions first?
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Are the 2 mutually exclusive? Can 'we' live with a CTS that's eminently comfortable AND a CTS-V that is less so but is leading edge in performance?
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I'm wiling to roll up my sleeves w U on this one, Bill. Define for me, if you will, specifically how Cadillac is chasing the Germans. What is it the Germans own that is proprietary?
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Wonder if the 4.0TT is slated for the Corvette and the CT6 will still get a bored 4.2TT.
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Was looking forward to working on the '63 Sting Ray currently in my shop, but am a bit disturbed by my conversation tonight with the owner. ME : "So should I go ahead and start working on it- was going to start with the brake system." HIM : "I thought we'd put some fluid in and see if the brake pump up." Recap- the car has been sitting since 1969. Owner is notoriously 'thrifty'. If I am not going to be able to charge for my time and make it worth my while, he needs to get his car out of my building.
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^ Correct- you pay the car's price, you get the rebate taken off you federal taxes that fiscal year only. It's 'up to $7500' but if your federal tax is -say- $5000, you only get $5000 off, that 1 year only. I have not heard what the average rebate is amounting to (and I'm waiting to see folk complain these rebates only favor the rich) but from a consumer window shopping perspective; the general assumption is that they're going to see a $7500 savings. This is where I'm watching Tesla closely- I believe a lot of people heard "$35K" and "7.5K off" and are figuring their "affordable" Model 3 is going to be around $28K. Meanwhile, the current car lists between $42K and $49K and the incentives for Tesla will start pro-rating early next year sometime (depending on the speed of 3 production). Now your $28K is leveling off somewhere in the upper 30's, likely.
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It's a baseline price including the rebate: $36,620 - 7,500 = 29,120 (plus delivery/etc). I am aware that not everyone qualifies for the 7500, as it comes off your 1st year federal tax OWED and any balance doesn't carry over. On the other hand, there are a few accounting ways around that, plus select states offer a state rebate on top of the fed; in CO one can get up to $5K on top. It's a generalization- just as on the last page where it was posted that the Model 3 is "$40K" when Musk stated it would sticker between $42 and 49K for a while; right now there is no $35K Model 3". And these rebates are running out fast for Tesla- the pro-rating of the rebate starts next year. Chevy is not as far into their 200K EV allowance yet.
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Leaf is $23K after the fed rebate.... but it's not competitive with the Bolt due to half the range and half the power. Leaf also loses out to the Bolt in every other critical criteria; the Bolt is a much better/nicer car. Bolt is also a far nicer car with tremendously more range than the $44K BMW i3, is this people choosing a Chevy over a BMW, or a quality, high-range EV over a half-assed EV?
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Outselling other EVs absolutely is an accomplishment- as you've stated- this is an upcoming segment, what with top end luxury and sports OEMs announcing EVs, OEM's announcing their entire production will switch over to EVs, articles EVERY DAY on EVs and entire countries announcing the future banning of ICEs (as China just did today). All the articles repeatedly comparing the Bolt & the Model 3 illustrated clearly how the fact that these are EVs is transending everything else. How do you think the Model 3 garnered 400K pre-orders when no production car was even shown? Getting a solid leg up on everyone else in the EV segment is crucial to future success. Once "Model 3" and "Bolt" and "Leaf" become synonymous with 'EV' vehicles, everyone else that comes along later has to compete with that.
