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wonder if the Daimler bean counters are going to be 'excited' at the nosedive on the sales chart? MB plays up the S550e online, touting all the 'advantages' ("handcrafted interior", all LEDs, 0-60 in 5 sec (or whatever)) along with the 54/63 MGe... but have only sold 411 units thru June. Literally, "no one buys it". Other s-class sales thru June : 7,172. S550e is only 6%! Going all EV / hybrid is going to absolutely MURDER the brand's sales.

OHHHHHH; you mean 'sell as many', NOT 'build a competitive or better product'. I was confused; most people are well aware that the most common thing doesn't necessarily mean the best thing.

Wait, how could all 3 of those cars sell in identical numbers???

Innit that pretty close to Mitsu's "iQ"? Ooooooo! King-sized missed opprtunity > the "Smart iQ" !!

Remodeled for the '64 circuit, the 1981 version shows the '64 X-400 tails. Restoration was done to '63 specs, including the tails/trim, except the composite molded headlights didn't make it. Still a beaut :

Cutting dealers when you have an excess is a good idea, but cutting from 85 dealers to 27 is called 'going out of business'.

You GOZE to lock the door!!

[just bustin on Fap, Cubical]

BUT C&G TOLD ME EVERYONE WANTS EV COMPACTS

Dude- you know those were limited by law. There is now no such shape limitation, but today they all have the same angled, 'angry' trapezoidal shape. Something like the Escala concept breaks that same boring look... maybe it'll see production. My comment was to lines/features- the angled headlights, the trapezoidal grilles, the 3 elements below- one wide and 2 smaller outer ones, also angled trapezoids. You look at the '59s and you have headlights in the sheet metal, headlights in the grille or half in the grille (DeSoto), angled, horizontal, under brows. The Merc & the Chrysler headlights are the same concept but the rest of the cars certainly are not. Look at how closely the BMW & MB line up stylistically, looks like 2 slightly different angles/croppings of the SAME car. Can't come remotely close to that with the old timers.

3-series lost it's 'ultimate sports sedan' title- didn't you hear?

I don't suppose we'll every see stylistic individuality like this ever again.

SAME CONCEPT across different makes/COOs. #inarut

As found in 1981, the '63 Pontiac X-400 supercharged 421 show car. It has since been meticulously restored.

But can you believe Audi is still even selling these when they are selling ?? I mean- why even turn on the factory lights?

WHEW!!! The Member's Ride's thread are back online! Now... due to Photobucket imploding [charging a fee to link photos], just have to re-link/upload images again. I'm going to screenshot my thread so I have a jpg backup. Glad it worked out, DD!

'68 Camaro headroom : 37" '17 Camaro headroom : 38.5"

You brought up monthly sales numbers at 250/mn, then answered my post with yearly numbers. Audi in July ~ A-3 E-tron : 218 A7 : 266 A8 : 270 Allroad : 271 R8 : 73 TT : 181

55 built, some other form of ICE, fully gas (or kerosene, jet fuel, etc). 0 pistons tho : 1925 Doble E-20, ICE (steam), 4 cylinders, 1000 lb-ft of TRQ at idle, did 133 MPH in 1925 :

HALF of Audi's lineup sells in this volume range monthly.

SO are all the exotics and sports cars. Buyers in these classes wear that as a badge of honor. Camaro moving 80K/year is incredible to me. Not that tweaks / option juggling isn't always a good thing to reassess, but that's very healthy 'play thing' numbers.

I do NOT expect to see that level of drop-off. There are 3 dozen plug-ins available right now, but most sell in the triple digits annually. It would be interesting to read a major analysis of why it's stacking up the way it is.

Yep- the S & X are double or more than the Bolt, but those buyers just happened to have a larger budget than the Bolt's buyers... maybe. Just because people have more money doesn't mean they will spend it all. One friend of mine could buy RR Ghost for cash (I have no doubt) but is riding around in a Hyundai Sante Fe. That's what he chose to spend his money on. Not to brag but I could buy a pretty snappy brand new diesel truck outright, but I don't feel that's a worthwhile use of my money and I don't necessarily want to spend my money to impress people I don't know. We fall into the association trap that those with high budgets are always going to use it [we know people with low budgets commonly exceed them]. And while all the Model 3 orders are promising, the only thing that matters is delivered vehicles. Time will tell how the 3 does... and the Bolt, too.

Actually; they do : Bolt was #1 in July EV sales in the U.S. Aaaaaand, the Volt is less than 200 units behind the Model S for 2017 YTD.

I've seen a number of CT6s rolling around out & about, and they regained an aspirational big Cadillac sedan swagger that has been missing for decades, IMO. Based on the styling, I'd own one, and there's not much in the modern car world I can say that about.