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Another Antares rendering... 1994 Aurora showcar with split lower fascia, all-glass roof, different wheels, and integrated Guidestar navigation. Note where the controls for the navigation screen are located; BMW seems to have...

A 100% objective car review would comprise of a window sticker, a press release, and the owner's manual. Even Consumer Reports isn't 100% objective any longer.

Nissan wants to ally with GM to save money on tooling! :rotflmao:

Its a special adhesive of course, but yes, essentially glue-on units. I've seen quite a few LeSabres, pre-03 PAs, and a handful of Regals with them and they range from great to lousy depending on who did the work. You can tell when someone sticks them on without trying. Sloan Automotive Museum Store Scroll down about halfway and there they are for (I was mistaken) $68 for six and some goofy badging.

<--21 BTW, moving this over to the Lounge where it'll get more responses.

Welcome! Hope you like things around here as we have a very dedicated Buick clan. I believe the LaCrosse Super will be the only LaCrosse receving ventiports, though I'm sure you're aware aftermarket ventiports are available for about $35 a set (three).

Hey, that's great. Glad to hear your problems are resolved!

Google is the new crack.

The...Hyun...dai Tuscon...because it is....a...dream...to look...at.

That would actually be really cute for a certain Pontiac

GM is already getting my money. Well. GMAC is.

Yeah. Aren't you used to it by now? Repeated for emphasis because, as said, very few V6s are sold retail. The popularity of the six fell off since the V8s not only became very powerful themselves, but because the gas mileage is the same...or better! Its there for affordability or to run out the production or something.

I had the impression many of them were just 'rollers' or had limited functionality like many of today's concepts (no reverse, speed limited, etc). I would assume the vast majority of Ford's 50s concepts were unworkable simply because of their eccentricities - the Nucleon, Seattleite, Gyron, etc.

Among the older set, sure. But older folks make up a surprisingly small percentage of Aurora buyers from the data I saw (no I don't remember exactly where or when) at least in comparison with the traditional Oldsmobile clientele. I would dispute your general assertion based on the fact that many Aurora (not Oldsmobile) owners bought Acuras, Lexus, or Infiniti cars or the Cadillac Seville. My proof of this is anecdotal based on dozens of posts on other forums where former Aurora owners remark how GM 'doesn't have anything for them,' so they defected to import midlux cars and also the countless times I've heard people mention to me in person, "I almost/wish I had bought one of those, but I got a Legend/TL/RL/ES/I30 instead." Again, there would be no 'offical' way of documenting this, but that's the best proof I have right now. Call it biased love, but I really believe the Aurora was less of an 'Oldsmobile' and even less of a typical 'GM' than many give it credit for being. I really feel it was on the cusp of truly crossing over and becoming a real player in the entry-luxury market, if it hadn't to a good extent by 2001.

When I had my picture taken, the woman showed me what it looked like and asked if I wanted it retaken. Florida rules.

Because no one aside from large fleets buy the V6 typically.

I believe a major factor in this accident was the lack of experience using surface radar, which could've possibly saved the ship. Also, another victim of Andrea Doria was the Chrysler Norseman, handcrafted by Ghia over the course of fifteen months. It featured a fully cantalievered roof (no a-pillar support) with a sunroof and unlike many dream cars of the time, this one was fully operational.

Mullet Power!*Mullet Flaps*Mullet Out! Chevyfan02 used to be LeSabre455 or something and I remember I pissed him off by adding captions to a picture of two guys from Queer as Folk, but not only was that scene not overtly homosexula, I wasn't even aware it was from that show; I just Googled. LeeRon left because he had "other priorities" or something. He drove an Echo and that in and of itself was funny. According to what I've heard, Scott has "changed." I miss BYEBMW. Not.

Remember this lovable scamp? Newsflash regarding Cheers and Gears We did fairly well in the poll. I'm impressed.

Yeah, well, GM may have given up on hardtops, but Mercedes gave up on being Mercedes about fifteen years ago. They can make a hardtop A-Class if they want, I don't care; can't be anymore unsafe than the original A, anyway.

Welcome! Lurking in the photoshop forum because you're wanting to show off your design skills?

Poor zebras...

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Somewhat I suppose on the surface, but if you break it down, you'll see the '01 Aurora went up against the TL, ES, I30; the LeSabre/Park Avenue took on the Grand Marquis, LHS, Concorde; and the Bonneville challenged the 300M and Intrepid. They were also far more specialized, with the LeSabre/Park Ave having softer rides, styling, and bench/column shift options, the Bonneville being very American and muscley, and the Aurora simply occupying a higher plane. Now, there was certainly overlap within the lines, like Bonneville SE vs. LeSabre Custom and pretty much LeSabre and Park Avenue, but as a whole, I don't see it. The Bonneville's biggest problem seemed to be the Grand Prix, though the Bonnie was far more refined, Pontiac buyers simply don't care; I believe a V8 offering for the 2000 model year would've been a big boon to sales. Right now, I don't see that much seperating the Avalon from any of the other two it shares underpinnings with. Its not that luxurious in comparison to the new Camry, the power output is the same, the trunk is larger by like a cu. ft., the Camry also has reclining rear seats as an option, and they got rid of the senior-tailored 6-seat/column shift option that won over people in 2000. All three are also conservatively styled, bordering on luxurious and now the Avalon seems the least 'pricey' of them all. Generally, the large car market doesn't exist anymore and the Avalon seems to be there for the sake of being there. Again, you're right; we'll see. But I think the Avalon's numbers were artificially boosted by the wow factor of the first year and that it went unchallenged within Toyota for almost two whole years. I don't see why they just don't import a decontented Crown with a bench seat. I bet you'd sell out the whole shipment with vinyl tops and vogue tires.

Yet another asanine statement that ignores a splendid accomplishment by a splendid little car. "Us enthusiasts..." Give me a break...