A Horse With No Name

Thank you for putting the Solstice GXP Coupe on the list...The Camaro needs to be there also somewhere, although I agree with Harley Earl, it is really a 2009-2010 product. The Solstice GXP coupe is pretty enough to make me forget about the opposite gender... Chris

What we still dance around, years later, is that GM still needs a class leading small car. The Cobalt is good, but should be better. I am interested to see what GM does with it. Hopefully they keep production in Lordstown, Ohio. It would be horrible for our already trashed economy if this plant were to close. The Astra has about a 400 day supply right now, and it hasn't done anything in the marketplace. I love it, but I love manual shift cars. 90% of what they will sell will be autotrajic, and the autotrajic just sucks life out of the 1.8liter motor. This car with the Cobalt 2.4 would just be the cat's ass. This car with the 260 h.p. Coblat SS/Skyredline/HHR SS/Pontiac Solstice GXP powertrain would be out of this world, but I'm running down a rabbit trail... We still need a funky, different small car. There is a several month waiting list for the Smart car, the first gen Scion xB has phenominal resale, and the Beat concept car was really cool. I have no doubt GM can build both a really good conventional small car (even better than the already good Cobalt and Astra) as well as a really funky, cool Gen Y car that will also sell well to the over 50 crowd. And this is what keeps me coming back to Cheers and Gears and giving me hope in GM. GM just needs to change some of their product thinking and some of their marketing...and then they can start taking the urban areas back. Chris

http://racingready.com/2008/11/20/one-off-...lt-autocrosser/ See what you think... Chris

As the father of a twelve year old girl....yes middle school females can be mean. Sixty-six

Cheap wheels. Around here the Versa and the Cobalt are both in the local paper brand new under 10K. Add to the list the MINI small SUV concept. I love the MINI, but as an SUV it is just plain wrong. Chris

Agreed. Chris

Interesting... Chris

It's worth the 2k IMHO. I just love watching the hood come open and seeing a tri-power in a car. They look cool in a period style rod also. I've seen a couple of nice early V8 Ford coupes with a big Ponitac motor w a tri power, and also the other period stuff to make it a 60's rod. I like them also.

Cheers to Harley Earl and Sixty Eight for keeping the memory of our older stuff alive... Cheers to Camino for his posts on the Mothertruck and the wagon...it's nice to see project cars. Cheers to CMG for his pro-Chrysler viewpoint and his project car. Cheers to Carbiz for keeping on posting here, keeping us abreast of the showroom scene. Cheers to Dodgefan for his excellent posts. Reading his stuff keeps me coming back. Cheers to Oldsmoboi for his posts about politics, energy and the economy. Good luck to you as you seek to move yourself and your boyfriend to Germany. Cheers to Future of GM for his rational, confrontational, honest posts. I love them also. Cheers to gm4life for being such a big GM nut and such a big patriot. I sense reading his politics posts that he really really deeply loves our nation, and I am VERY proud to have him as a poster here even if we don't always agree. Cheers to GM for trying to stick it out in tough times... Cheers to Ford for really showing us that a domestic can start to pull it together. Cheers to you also, ocnblu, for posting here regularly...that goes for dave87rs also. Cheers to knightfan, for having and keeping a garage full of old cars I'd love to own. He hasn't been posting here as much, but I enjoy it when he posts. Cheers to everyone else that posts here also...even if traffic is down, it is one of the coolest forums on the net IMHO. Sixty-Six

What makes it worse is that yuou were probably still sober at the time. Chris

Not a big Nissan fan, the GT-R isn't terrible, but the rest of the list....ughh. Add to that the Dodge Caliber and subtract the cargo vans perhaps. Cargo vans only have so many styling options (although the 70's GM vans I liked). However, the Calber is just plain one of the worst Chrysler styling designs ever IMHO. Chris

...on the downside, one of the cars in the yard was a GTA Firebird. On the plus side, Dave Gill Pontiac (where I bought my previous S-10) has a pristine low mile 89 pace car on the sales floor. God I love that bodystyle car. My friend Shawn had one (84TA) as a high school graduation present...we had so much fun and got into so much trouble in that car... Maybe I ought to remember our antics in that 'bird when I get frustrated with my own teenage son. Chris

I would agree...Kinda like their 90's lineup better. Other than the 370Z and the GTR, am just personally not in love with Nissan Styling. Plus the Maxima is over rated...a front wheel drive wanna be at the price of a very gently used 3 series BMW or new G8 GT? I know a lot of people would rather have new, but given X amount to spend, which would you choose...Maxima or 3 Series... Chris

And RE: the VW's being "too complicated to be reliable" bull$h!. I agree 100%. Last week GMI posted an article by a California wack-o (Hope Croc is reading this) that stated she would never buy a domestic and that she owns a new Beetle that has quality problems because it is "over engineered in a manner to which only the Germans could take it." I couldn't agree more.... Chris

I love VW (obviosuly) but I agree on the feel of the Spec V and the Astra. I don't like the styling on the current or prev. Spec V, but it does feel well built. With the Astra, GM walked through the front door and did the right thing and still got blasted for it. Chris

I love the clean 70 design, and the "Cleveland Cobra Jet" as it is called would be great...as would a 4 speed. I almost picked up the sister car (in competition orange) when I bought my 55 Chevy. Thankfully, one can get whole repop bodyshells for 69 Mustangs now from Dynacorn, so I may still own one of these great cars someday. Chris

This is just sooo sad. Last time I went to the salvage yard, I counted 12 decent repairable solid late 80's-early 90's F-bodies. I like this bodystyle car...were the economy not in major, major trouble I would be working on one now. Chris

I always liked the Chevy bubbletops...looks good as a Pontiac "custom" also... Chris

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubb...topics/510337/1 I esp. enjoyed the pic of the eight tri-power setups on the rack... Chris

That gives car guys like us a bad name with the general public. Don't get me wrong, I like Mustangs, but for some reason the Mustang owners group seems to attract more than its share of loosers. I could be (and probably am) wrong... Not that I would mind a '70 Boss 302, mind you. Thanks for posting that, Mustang84. Chris

It almost seems like we need a revival of intersting rock and roll music. I enjoy rock and roll, as my 15 year old son seems to be right out of 1985 in terms of his music tastes and I enjoy doing things with him. However, any more I find myself listening to other forms of Music, from classical to dixieland jazz. So I guess I would say that I find it all kind of overplayed and over rated. I guess that's why I kind of like some modern cars as well...kinda feel the same way. A 69 Mach 1 or a 65 GTO or a 70 Charger R/T all take my breath away...but I've been looking at the same cars for almost 40 years now. Of the more modern stuff, for some reason I kind of liked Green Day when they came out, but I'm burned out a little bit on them as well. Chris

The thing that amazes me is that of the list Oldsmoboi gave (Nissan, VW, Audi, Hyundai, Kia) that VW continues despite poor ad/promo work. Hyundai does a very good job promoting their product, and Nissan seems to have a really good feel for what people want. Honestly, I wonder if Ford and Nissan aren't the best positioned for growth right now. Ford seems to "get it" the most of the domestics, and Nissan is building more exciting stuff/more interesting stuff than the other Asian carmakers. Sixty-Six

I'm going to eat dinner with my family, put on the stereo and celebrate by reading a good book by myself. Personally, I enjoy leading a very quiet life. Chris

Buick Portholes are one of the first things I remember learning about on a car. My mother grew up in the 1950's, and I remember her telling me about what cool cars everyone thought they were and how stylish she thought "portholes" were. Chris