A Horse With No Name

Sort of like the sliding window on the Tundra driven by the owner of the company I work for. He didn't tie down a generator in the bed and it flew through the sliding rear window during a panic stop, causing considerable damage to the truck. Toyota only charged him $1200 for the window... Chris

I small a lawsuit also. However, autocrossing said car (in the spring) might teach you some good car control skills in the meantime. Chris

I small a lawsuit also. However, autocrossing said car (in the spring) might teach you some good car control skills in the meantime. Chris

The last generation Celica wasn't that good of a car either. Drive one hard and then drive an Integra GSR hard or an Integra Type R hard, or a 99-2000 civic SI hard, or a 2002-2005 Cicic SI hard... You'll find out what a piss poor design the Celica really is. The Honda producsts WAY outclass (by several orders of magnatude) the DSM MITSU cars, and yet the DSM outclasses the Celica IMHO. Chris

There are rural parts of Michigan that are just beuatiful, though. If I had my druthers, I'd be a yuper and move to the Upper Peninsula just to get away from the bulk of population that seems to be over-running everywhere else. Chris

Interesting question. They won't get the whole 25 billion, and probably the government would own part of the automakers. Private enterprise may no longer be quite so "private" But even then, it won't make that much of a difference as there aren't that many people with good jobs left in this country to afford new cars. Honda, toyota, Mazda, BMW, and Suzuki will suffer here as well. I look for the auto market to shrink year by year for a long time to come. Things will move to the left politically and the government will run GM, Ford and Chrysler from the sidelines for a very long time... That would be my guess. Just keep your Buick wagon. GM cars from the 1950's are running around Havannah, Cuba...your grandson and granddaughter may well be driving it, if things don't change.

I think that he is actually starting to turn the Muslim world against him, as his operations are killing mostly Muslims in the Muslim world. but we need diplomacy, something Carter tried back in the 1970's and forgotten about since. And we need to work for basic human rights for Palestinians and a Palestinian state. Bin Ladin may be a genius, but real genius would be solving the problem rather than making it much worse. Chris

...it bit Czar Nicholas in the ass when the economy went south about WWI in Russia. If things get bad in this country it will be very, very bad for the wealthy elite. Not that it will be any better for Joe Sixpack... Chris

Excellent. I am a big fan of Nancy... Chris

Shame on you, FOG...you forgot the Sky Redline and the Solstice GXP, two of my personal fav. GM cars. Maybe they can go away with everything else and we can cruise around in Priuses on a sunny day...what a depressing thought. Chris

...to add to this...the community college thing won't work. Most of the students graduating from Columbus State (where my wife works) are 40K in debt and unable to find a job. There is a movie called Shopgirl. with Claire Danes and Steve Martin IIRC, where one of the lead charactors is working in a mall after graduating thousands in debt. This will be the new reality for our children. Chris

Actually I've lived in the midwest my whole life, and summer is quite nice here. Chris

Congrats, you said it about eleventy billion times better than I did...But this puzzles me. It is almost like they need to look down on blue collar workers to find their own self worth. Chris

Yes, you do! Chris

Why? Chris

...what's the lyrics of that one song by Green Day..."one nation controlled by the media" Couldn't be more true. Sadly, I think you, mr Carbiz, must be the LAST qualified salesperson left on the continent. My 12 year old daughter, Joanna, knows more about cars than most of the salespeople I talk to. Finding some way to get an educated slaesforce, and make it financially worth their while, would go a long way in helping GM. However, when you've got 15 salespeople in a dealerhsip that sells 5 cars a week, someone is going to go hungry. Chris

Sadly, I think your right. We are going to rival Bolivia in our standard of living in about ten years. And I'm not kidding. Chris

GTO For the Win, dude. You have enough old cars, and another "old" car will just compete with your other "old" caqrs for time and attention. Buy a GTO (for me a six speed is a must, but to each his own) and don't look back. Hell, I like small cars and I am even thinking a GTO would be nice. Plus, newer cars don't seem to rust like older ones. With proper care, that GTO would last ten years or more. Again, GTO FTW. Chris

I would agree. Maybe we can form a Cheers and Gears Convoy to Florida to find Flybrian? Chris

When I was a boy growing up in rural Wisconsin, there was a 57 Chevy with one of those wild 70's custom paint jobs and the 4X4 Treatment, as well as a 68 Camaro SS/RS that was made 4WD as well. I've also seen it done to a couple of mid 70's firebirds and a 73 Buick convertible. Still trying to understand the appeal. Chris

That Thunderbird is sweet, its sister car (literally) is pink and lives here in Columbus, was one owner until 2007. The 57 Ford is a great design, there is a retractable like that in that junkyard I keep telling Balthazar about. Chris

That thing needs to be the personal car for Larry the Cable Guy. Chris

For some reason the 307 4V V8 seems to like the cold. The one in my Cutlass started on the first try on some very cold Indiana mornings. Chris

I really don't see an ugly box coming from GM. The Beat prototype looked good, and GM seems to be pretty spot on with their styling lately. Chris

Nice looking Lark! Chris