A Horse With No Name

I'd prefer it without the sunroof...but yes, one of my top 5 modern cars, for sure. Right now I want to have a three car fleet-1 Japanese car, 1 American car, one Euro car. Chris

THe G8 is growing on my on a daily basis. Pontiac just builds such cool V8 cars. I saw a yellow GTO (modern 2004/2205) the other day God, I want a V8 car back in the fleet again. Sixty Eight, do you think we could rob a bank and perhaps buy the Pontiac Wagon that Camino just posted??? Chris

Damn, if I had cash right now I'd buy that thing. That's cool! (warning, off topic) I miss both of my Chevelles, and that thing is almost cooler. By the way, Camino, I woke up at three ayem the other night thinking about your wagon, the sedan delivery discussion we had, and your old phantoms thread. I think a cool phantom GM car would be this-68-72 Buick wagon, made 2 door like the 64-65 Chevelle two door wagons, and then made into a deluxe sedan delivery of sorts. Paint it yellow, light green, gold, etc. and put narrow white stripe bias ply tires and dog dish hubcaps on it with the buick logo and make it look like a factory one off or low production car. I would even cover the seats with clear plastic and put parking permits decals from the local catholic church in the rear window...anything to make it look like a low mile, survivor, Buick sedan delivery. Probably just ate wayy to much tex-mex before I went to bed, but I can't get this idea out of my mind. (back on topic) I really hope someone gives this sweet old wagon the home it deserves. I would love it just as much as an Olds, BTW. Oh, and a question...Buick built A body wagons as well during the 68-72 era as well, right??? I believe they did, It's just been forever since I've seen one. Chris/66

Which is why nearly every carmaker builds damned good stuff now. Go randomly buy any car from Kia, Hyundai, Benz, Mazda, GM, Ford, or whoever...and it will run 100,000 miles plus probably, and probably 200,000 miles plus. You can't survive in the car buisiness today as a dumbass...but you can make all kinds of internet posts as a dumbass. (enter sarcasm mode) GM is sooo stupid...which is why they've managed to stay in buisiness through two world wars, a depression, the 70's, the 80's, the 90's, etc. (exit sarcasm mode) Chris/66

(Warning, slightly off topic rant) As a fanboi of small cars, I wish the Quad 4 had worked out better, without the head gasket issues and other issues. An Olds Calais with a Quad 4...now THAT was my kind of Oldsmobile! My old across the street neighbor had a very low production Beretta (GTZ maybe???) with the quad 4 and a 5 speed. That car suprised a LOT of ricers...it was kind of a Q ship of sorts as it was black and kind of a "low" profile car in traffic. But it drove just awesome...I had a chance to buy it from him and sadly didn't...and I know I'm rambling...but I've seen Qud 4 motors do amazing things at autocrosses and in SCCA style racing. I've talked here before about the Quad 4 Calais that was the Terror of the SCCA ITS class at Mid Ohio for a few years. GM has done some things really, really right in their own way. (end of off topic rant.) Chris/66

Glad to hear it worked out well. Caliber would not be my first choice of a car to replace the Rabbit. The Audi 5 Cyl. in the Rabit is quite robust, you may very well be able to pay the car off and drive it forever, almost. Even with the cost of repairs, it may still be much cheaper than buying another car. Chris

I'm old fashioned from a tech point of view. I want a vintage Nikon "F" Camera, which is fully manual and takes this thing called film. I have an ancient 13" TV. Last time I watched a full lenth TV show, it was spring. I enjoy hand tool woodworking. I could be very comfortable living in 1845. I am profoundly glad I don't have a blackberry. Chris

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My bad, should haved said I like "them" I MUCH prefer the G6. Both are nice though, and I hate to prejudice your decision if you like the other car better. But IMHO the G6! Chris

Trailer park girls? Chris

We need to invent a time machine and bring back the Pontiacs of the 1960's. Some of the coolest cars ever built. I always loved the Dashboards in 60's Pontiac. To me, they just screamed "class" for some reason. Bring me a 1964 GTO, please. I saw two Edsels on the road, of all things, on a crappy, rainy day in Kentucky. Both two tone, both two doors. Also saw a second gen, late 70's Camaro Z-28 on the road, bright yellow and seemed to be factory paint and a regular car still in service. It's really rare anymore to see a second gen Camaro...around here, they seem to ahve even disappeared from car shows. Chris

I like it!~ Chris

Awesome! Chris

+1 Chris

2.4 Turbo is a great motor. Chris

Okay, I am in lust... Chris

Me too! Chris

Actually I had an SCCA buddy get ticketed for driving with a five point racing harness in a Camaro because the five point harness wasn't DOT approved. Cop also had an atittude about the racing seat in the car not being the DOT approved seat for the car, and threatened to write him up for that as well. Idiots. Chris

In Ohio you are exempt. Chris

I couldn't agree with you more, balthazar. If anything the press is becoming much MORE biased as time goes on. Chris

...far better than most people. Chris

I'd settle for a sedan if it was a G8, or FWD for a MINI Cooper S or Cobalt SS. )Or perhaps a VW TDI. But yeah, I can look at a whole parking lot of modern cars and see nothing that I'd want to own. Chris

Hijack/rant I love some VW's, but let's hope it's decades before you have to remember these two cars again. The more I study or get to know other carmakers, the more I like GM. I kept seeing Volkswagen Cabriolet Ragtops in the local pick-n-pull. Asked the guys in the VW club why so many nice Cabrolet's were being scraped. The answer-Volkswagen can't build an autotrajic tranny to save itself, and the rebuild is very costly, so people scrap the cars. GM, of course, has been building world class automatics for decades. I think I've come to the conclusion that, as aratio of cars sold, GM has far fewer skeletons in its closet than any other carmaker. End of hijack/rant. Chris

Saw a nice white 66 Ford Falaxie 500 two door hardtop (Wimbledon white, NICE shape) in Tennessee driving down to see my parents in North Carolina. Chris

Carbiz, a bicycle makes perfect sense in a -30 degree Toronto winter. Your just not being creative enough in your thinking. The Lunacy of our leaders knows no end. But look at the bright side, we already have the engeneering done for the Trabant, and GM should be able to knock these out and sell them at a price all of the people working at fast food and lawncars jobs can afford. See, there is a rational plan... Chris