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*looks around the room* Did you guys hear something? :AH-HA_wink:

Chocolate, mmmmm.....

To rationalize the Charger SRT-8, remember that even in the 60's at the height of the musclecar era, Chrysler was always more about the serious mechanical hardware than the fluffy interior software. The base Charger SE is a compelling value with the 250 horse V6, 5 speed automanual transmission, and RWD compared to the Impala as it is now, for instance. My hat is off to Chrysler for apologizing to NO ONE about their decision to build a real American car we can all be proud of.

Sales people at most dealerships are hoppers, they have no loyalty to brand. I wouldn't listen to a word.

That's hot, 4skin! Now, how about the H3?

crab fat

(recovering slowly) cake

A lot of GM fans (me included) would probably kill themselves if they could see how many really cool designs never see the light of day beyond the courtyard walls, only to be replaced in production by, shall we say, less than stellar looking machinery. You don't even want to know what I'd do to be able to tour the GM design facilities responsible for bringing Zeta to life here in the US.

Harry's thing

Rueben, I like your cars, I checked out your Car Domain pages.

You guys are supposed to be keeping GM resale values UP, especially for repeat customers.

scampi

This is good news for all domestic fans. Good job, Mopar!

deepfried

Even if GM decides never to produce a car that outperforms its own Corvette, there is still considerable room to wiggle and nip at the Corvette's heels. I posted my "ideal Pontiac lineup" in that thread, and like I said there, Buick and Pontiac should have 6.0L V8 power at the top of their Zeta sedan option lists, while Chevrolet sticks with 5.3L power for the next Impala and Monte Carlo (ironic as that may be, since the LS engines descend from the legendary smallblock Chevy).

While I agree some of the packages are way beyond their freshness date, people *not in the group* tend to only see these "packaged" people, when there are millions of "non-packaged" folks right under their noses.

Agreed. That's an outdated notion. A 500 hp Buick Invicta sedan (just an example) still won't kill a 'Vette on the track, so what's the big deal? It will kill its sedan competition though, and that's what GM needs.

Why? We're not all a bunch of urban dwellers afraid to get our hands dirty.

Wait a minute, BBB... Corvette is untouchable. Take a look at the sticker price of a Corvette and compare it to the competition... it is THE embodiment of "bang for the buck"... the greatest value in the sports car world. The HHR is very nicely priced and is a well-presented vehicle. I will give you the SSR, but it's a goner anyway. I am not saying Buick should be shortchanged or neglected. Buick is still a strong brand... but Buick is here today in part because Chevrolet, GM's workhorse brand, has managed to stay successful and bring money into the corporation. GM fans need to stop this infighting, imo.

blair, how about a nice XC90 with a 6" lift and 33s?

It's so clean. Nice ride!

She went with you to put down the deposit, she smiled for the cameras and waved to the crowd, but on the way home, she let loose: "You can't keep buying new cars! The Sky's the limit, buster!" ***groan***

Brothers don't shake hands. Brothers hug. Then they punch each other in the shoulder. My middle name is Brian. Now stop asking me so many questions! You're confoozing me!

Subaru's first factory-backed Rally effort ended in spectacular failure, but it only made them more determined to succeed...

Kermit (another green dude)