Robert Hall

Really..interesting. In '70, I've read that the center piece was attached to the hood, like a tooth to smash your head on.

Congrats!

Cool..

Looks more like a DTS driver. What's the median DTS owner age? 70?

As are the A4 and A6..they have north-south engine placement and the newest interations have rear-biased AWD. Superior to a FWD/transverse engine platform. That would make no sense, since the original Mini was FWD and is the perfect example of a well done FWD car. That would be unthinkable, Mercedes would lose all credibility worldwide.

If it were Zeta, it would be a non argument since Zeta is RWD. Using a LWB Zeta for a Cadillac would be in line with the classical GM model---think 1977 or 1996 RWD B/C/D bodies. Under the skin, the only real differences (besides the engine in the '77) between a Caprice and a Fleetwood was the wheelbase.

Saw the premiere last night..figured they were going to total it, but didn't happen..got shot up a bit..interesting how it had a bulletproof headlight lens, apparently... And it had easily hot-wireable wires hanging under the dash (is that just a Hollyoodism--can a car really be started by rubbing two random wires together like that?)

I'll leave this topic, promise not to criticize this car further until I've seen it in person. I know I'm walking the fine line of coming off as loony as 68Panther. But I believe in RWD or RWD/AWD for performance, luxury and large cars. Maybe it's generational, the younger folks are more accepting of FWD as that's what they've grown up around (and don't know better.. ) To the FWD apologists, I'll leave the topic with this thought--- What if the CTS had been on Epsilon instead of Sigma? What if the rumored ATS ends up on the Delta II platform (FWD/transverse 4 or V6)? Would you be defending such cars?

I wouldn't call them generic...tons of 3-series here, but they are far outnumbered by FWD Corollas, Camrys, Altimas, Civics, Accords--all the vanilla generics the masses love. FWD/transverse engine is fine for cheap subcompacts, compacts and mass market midsize. It has no place in 'premium' cars, IMHO. FWD/transverse engine is all about mediocrity and average. Common and low. Can't Cadillac AIM HIGHER?? Aspire to something better than the usual generic crap??? Leave McDonalds to Chevy. Cadillac should be a premium steakhouse.

Those examples don't bother me at all, since a RWD platform is superior to a FWD generic platform. And those examples are all examples of excellent RWD platforms--the 3 series has long considered to be the best compact RWD model out there, the DWE98 is nothing to sneeze at, and the E-class has long been an excellent all around car. They make good cabs because of their longevity and durability. It was fun riding in a black E-Class cab in Italy, noting how similar it was to the red E-Class coupe in the carpoint at home. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'll never consider a FWD transverse engine model as a world class 'flagship'. End of discussion.

By (presumably) building it on a common FWD transverse V6 platform shared w/ Buick and others... Just as the FWD '80s-90s C/K body was shared w/ Buick and others. It's the lowest common denominator thinking...not the stuff of flagships. A Cadillac flagship for today should be special, not just another GM midsize FWD rental car underneath. Few here seem to understand that and keep apologizing for what will likely be just another DTS type car.

Definitely a similarity to the taillight/hatch trim treatment. Jeep had it first, though, since the GC was shown almost a year ago at the NYIAS '09.

Got the day off for the holiday, went out for breakfast. While sitting in a neighborhood coffee shop, I saw a sweet silver blue w/ white top mid '60s Corvette convertible roll up to the light, headlights on and wipers going...slow steady rain all morning w/ overcast skies, a nice change in the weather from the usual. Squint and ignore the palm trees, and from the ambiance of the coffee shop, it sort of felt like Portland or Seattle rather than boring Phoenix. Also saw a very clean biege 2dr '75-76 or so Buick Skylark.

WoW... been a long time since there has been a Toyota with aggressive styling (and presumably performance to back it up). Looks like they are waking up again to the potential of cars beyond reliable, vanilla FWD generics.

Yes, it's been said probably 200 times in this thread. But, if this is based on Epsilon II, then it's based on just a common FWD platform w/ transverse engine. Hardly the material of a premium flagship if you aiming at the likes of Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, etc. Fine if the MKS, RL and ES are the target models, though. The generic FWD platform and strange proportions are the biggest negatives to this car, IMHO.

Sweet... pure RWD V8 Zeta goodness. Like an overdose of sugar and caffeine.

Interesting...another iteration of the Kia signature grille, and the greenhouse looks like an upsized Nissan Versa hatchback. Kinda like it. Distinctive.

IMHO, the styling could be greatly improved by an extra 4-6 inches of wheelbase ahead of the front doors..that would lengthen the nose and reduce the bad FWD proportions.

Saw a peach colored '60-61 Falcon 2dr sedan and a red '62 Chrysler Newport 4dr sedan. Both in good shape.

G3? Solstice?

That would be very cool to display w/ my vintage 1:25th kits and promos. I've never seen one of those.

Maybe Chevy can add this to the US line to notch between the Spark and Aveo.

For the green image of hybrids and to increase the CAFE..

Hard to tell the lay of the land in front of the fence, if the road is above the fence maybe he pulled a Bo Duke move and went over the fence..

Hmmm...a super Corsica. For the first dissapearance, I assume he accelerated down the highway and turned off the lights, then turned them back on. For the fence, must have some sort of space-time matrix displacement technology to teleport from one place to another.