Drew Dowdell

I've never taken the CTS over 55mph.... EVAR....

I don't get it.

I never would have ate it in the first place. I would have had the manager take it back and have it redone.

I can't imagine it taking any longer with pushbuttons then it does now with the electronic column shift BMWs.

That's not so bad

Why can't we just have push button shifters with paddle control on the steering wheel.

Have you guys tasted the new Kool-aide yet? Column, shifters are back in. BMW and Mercedes are putting them back in their cars?

People who are passionate about their car buy Grand Prix, CTS's, BMWs... heck even Civics. People who want an appliance buy Camrys, Corollas, base Malibus... and sometimes Civics. Civic is one of the few that's good for both.

Chevy has a much more complete lineup then Ford... so having it be this close is impressive of Ford. Bet they're all F-150 and Mustang sales though......

Agreed. The Maurader was a great idea poorly executed. The thing couldn't even beat a 1996 Caprice.... much less even burn rear rubber. Note to Ford since you're watching. If your "performance model" of a carline can get dusted by an Accord V6, it isn't a performance model. The Bonneville GXP was released when it was already obvious the Bonneville line was coming to an end. To fault the car for that isn't exactly fair. I think the current Impala SS, Charger SRT, 300 SRT-8, and even the SHO when it was good, are proof that high performance largish sedans can sell.

GM produces Hybrids where it matters most. ONE GM Hybrid bus equals the fuel savings of about 30* Toyota Priuses. * number aproximate of course.

LOL, there are tons out there worse then that!

booo

What's "single" got to do with it?

I highly doubt the cabin is waterproof enough to matter.

Awww... thanks Pauli...

Are you guys *sure* this isn't a Toyota something?

What's with the coffee can sticking out of the hood?

Direct injection 2.8 litre turbo would fit the car's market and make it fairly zippy like the MazdaSpeed 6

1. Profits are affected by overhead costs. GM's are $1500 more expensive regarless of the car they build. 2. GM has to keep the mills cranking and selling to fleet simply because of these overhead costs. 3. GM has to try and cheap out on the designs simply because if they didn't they couldn't be price competitive and make money due to their over head costs. Could GM build a car that would kill the Camry? Sure... and they'd sell every one. Except to remain price competitive they'd have to sell them all at a lose OR bump up the price to where a comparible Camry is 3k cheaper then an equal quality Malibu.

my numbers were made up of course.... but the sentiment is the same. The majority of Camry owners are not passionate about cars. A much higher percentage of Grand Prix owners are. Heck, if the Grand Prix sells only to the Nascar set, my point still stands.

Absolutely fully loaded GPV8... including engine block heater is 29,951 on CarsDirect.com. Add in potential GM card rebate <you only have to have *some* points to be eligable for the $2000 "top off" rebate> and you're in a loaded V8 GP for 27k. An absolute BASE 325 is 30,928 on CarsDirect.... try finding one on the lot. An absolute base A4 is 28k, but then you're saddled with an un-fun 4-cylinder in a heavy car... and you don't even get Quattro... So yeah... the GP V8 seems like a pretty sweet deal.

But that's probably because you give all indications that you are straight. I doubt that OCN does.

If that were the case, why hasn't GMC withered away and died yet? Strangely enough, Cadillac is one of the few brands that has completely changed their buyer demographic sucessfully. In 1996 Cadillac was totally for the 70's set. Today it's younger, wealthier people. Rappers and underweight white actresses love the Escalade. I'm 27 and got my CTS when I was 25. This is something Toyota HASN'T been able to do... hence the existence of Scion. You forget that this *was* a volume vehicle for GM. It cost extremely little for GM to tool up for this because it's just a Holden Monaro. They just had to swap a few badges, swap the driver side, and ship it over. Even at the low sales numbers of the GTO, they probably still made money on it because the more plebian models were sold with reasonable sucess in Australia.

To be fair, it all depends on where you live. Here in Pittsburgh, $700 a month rent gets you a fairly rockin place. Heck, my mortgage is $765 a month and I have 3 bedrooms, hardwood floors, fireplaces, porches, gargages and 1/3 acre of land.... yet I'm 15 minutes from downtown.