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Dodge News: 2018 Dodge Durango SRT To Begin At $64,090
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Dodge
You still fail. You have completely misunderstood what the torque charts are showing you. Just because an engine is turning 2,000 rpm and has a peak torque rating at that same RPM does not mean the engine is producing that torque. Think about that for a moment. The engine can be spinning at 2,000 rpm at both 1/4 throttle and full throttle. In which throttle position do you think the engine is making more torque? The Giulia only has that torque at full boost which means near to or actual full throttle. Moving at 45mph at 2,000 rpm the Giulia is not making 306 lb-ft.... it's making whatever a basic, unboosted 2.0 4-cylinder would make... probably no more than 100 lb-ft. When more speed is called for, it needs to downshift, spool up the turbo, and then go. If it is a manual and you don't downshift, you lug the engine and the turbo lag is even more pronounced. So, for those reasons, I don't care where peak torque is because that's only under full throttle... I care what the engine does for me at partial throttle. At partial throttle in a 2.0T, I'm driving a 2 liter.... in a 3.6, I'm driving a 3.6 liter. You drive a V8... you know the difference I'm talking about. Would you trade your V8 for a less responsive engine that needed to shift more just to provide similar peak output that you rarely use? The benz is an electronically driven turbo (I would call it a supercharger since it operates independently of exhaust output). That is entirely different technology than the existing turbos we are discussing. Don't try moving goal posts. -
Sales: Sales Figure Ticker: June 2017
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Sales Figure Ticker
Not a surprising list. I've made similar predictions. XTS is already confirmed as a goner after 2020. CTS is getting a name change on the next refresh, so technically dead, but not really. Platform is another question, I haven't looked into if it is going on Alpha or Omega. Lacrosse, if it keeps the name, may live on.... on another platform. Impala, no surprise there if its main platform mate, the XTS is gone. Sonic is Gamma... makes sense to build it with other Gammas (Trax / Encore / Spark) on a continent were small cars sell really well, so I would see that moving to Korea. BUT, that is not the same as being dead in the US. Sonic has been in the top sales slot in its segment more than a few times. I expect Regal production to move to China within 5 years. They have to keep building in that class for China alone.... I expect it to continue to be sold here too... doesn't cost that much to throw a couple Regals on the boat for every 10 Envisions they ship over. Cascada has got to be toast. Opel built, out of date, no place to call home, and poor sales.- 57 replies
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Dream car garage.... No Cars Edition
Drew Dowdell replied to A Horse With No Name's topic in The Lounge
I think it might have been confusion with the other thread. I didn't even see this one until tonight.- 17 replies
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Dodge News: 2018 Dodge Durango SRT To Begin At $64,090
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Dodge
I am so done with the full boost torque thing from you. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT GETS MORE TORQUE IF YOU HAVE TO USE FULL BOOST TO GET IT! Take the turbo away from a 2.0T for a moment.... what are you driving? A 2 liter 4-cylinder. At partial throttle with a couple PSI boost... maybe you're driving the equivalent of a 2.5 liter 4-cylinder. It's only under absolute full throttle and boost that you ever get to those V6 torque numbers. When you're driving a 3.6, you're driving a 3.6. The Pentastar and the GM 3.6 can both shut down 2 cylinders and run as a 4-cylinder. Those spare cylinders can power back up faster than any turbo. It takes no more than 2 revolutions of the crank. In normal driving, a bigger displacement engine that produces torque sooner (without lag) at a lower RPM is more desireable than something one needs to mash the throttle to get it moving. The heavier the car, the more this is true. 8/9/10 speed automatics don't help all that much either... they take away some of the downsides of turbos, but there is still more steps: 1. Press throttle. 2 downshift to allow engine RPM to raise. 3. Spool up turbo.... wait.... wait.... wait...... . 4. Go I like the looks of the new Traverse and I think in the V6 model it will be a decent, if a bit uninspiring, drive. However, no lie, the first thought that crossed my mind when I heard the base model was coming with the 2.0T was "That is going to be the most un-fun vehicle to drive of 2018." But sure.. it has "the same torque as the V6". People are going to be so into the boost that they'll ruin any gain in fuel economy. It's happened with Hyundai, it's happened with Ford, and it will happen in the Traverse. When I drive... I like 2 steps: 1. Press throttle 2. -
Dodge News: 2018 Dodge Durango SRT To Begin At $64,090
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Dodge
Sorry @surreal1272 I meant to quote @smk4565. @smk4565 the Pentastar is majorly redesigned for 2016. It has always been an excellent V6 in the class. If it is performing it's job correctly, who cares how old the original design is? -
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Dream car garage.... No Cars Edition
Drew Dowdell replied to A Horse With No Name's topic in The Lounge
You've gotta differentiate the thread title from the other one. Pick names for both and I'll update the titles.- 17 replies
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Dodge News: 2018 Dodge Durango SRT To Begin At $64,090
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Dodge
Both the Durango and Grand Cherokee have been in nearly constant refresh since they debuted. Every year there is a change to keep them up to date. They just got the updated Pentastar last year. The 8 speed auto 2 years prior along with an interior refresh. Updated suspension for the R/T model. These are still excellent SUVs that sit in a niche that no other manufacturer occupies. They are the only SUVs in the segment with V8s and they have by far the highest tow ratings of non-truck passenger vehicles this side of a Suburban. They're comfortable, fast, handle well, and get surprisingly good mpg for their size. -
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Cool. That picture is one of mine that I took at a Cadillac party in NYC just this April
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Because the MTO counter is always so slooooooowww..... full service sit down at Rey Azteca is faster! How long can it really take to microwave a hamburger? I bet a Chevy Bolt EV could charge from not to half full by the time they make my cheese curds.
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Ram News: Spying: 2019 Ram 1500 Shows Off Its Mega Cab
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Ram
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I think Sheetz has just a couple stations with chargers in them. I know New Stanton on the PA Turnpike has a charger, but it's a slower Level II charger, nothing high speed. The weird part is the TPK installed them at the ends of the turnpike but nothing in the distance between New Stanton and Bowmansville outside of Philly... They need some at Blue Mt, Sideling Hill, and Midway, etc... place in between the big cities. (For those of you who don't know the PA Turnpike, these are service station names.) If I'm leaving Pittsburgh, I don't need to stop 45 minutes later in New Stanton to charge... I probably need to stop at Sideling Hill to pee though, so that would be a good spot for a charger.
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While true... most of my co-workers are not at all malicious, however the same cannot be said of the other trait.
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Which Eldog photo did you like?
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Really? I don't know how that is possible when the 4-cylinder is the main seller of the 5-series while Cadillac dealers won't even stock the 4-cylinder CT6, most buyers head straight for the V6 or Turbo V6. Then again you can build a $67,000 4-cylinder 5-series... but who would do that, right?
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In the spirit of the challenge, I am limiting myself to just brands that are beyond any doubt a luxury brand.... otherwise I just keep posting pictures of the '66 Toronado. 1920s: 1929 Duesenberg 1930s: Cord 812 1950s The '57 Eldorado Brougham 1960s: 1967 Eldorado (Surprise! ) 1980s 1985 Cadillac Seville (this exact color combo) If a 6th car was allowed, I'd go with a '77 Lincoln Mark V
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It doesn't matter what they can be priced at. It matters what price they sell at and Cadillac gets higher ATPs across the brand. No, it's not just Escalade propping up the average... CT6 buyers, XT5 buyers, and CTS buyers all tend to go mid to higher optioned cars.
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My inspirational quote for the day: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
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Requiring EV chargers or just the electric lines run so you could put a charger in. Big difference.
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There is one other factor that you're ignoring. We still don't have the charging infrastructure too support that volume of cars and we're not investing in it anywhere near fast enough.
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June 2017: American Honda Motor Co.
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Sales Figure Ticker
The Renegade's class is arguably and ironically more interesting. If I were shopping in that class, the CX3, Renegade, Encore, HR-V would all be on the decision list. -
Elon is aiming for volume this time to keep the lights on and amortize that R&D a bit sooner.
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June 2017: American Honda Motor Co.
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in Sales Figure Ticker
There is absolutely nothing in the class that interests me enough to pull the trigger. The only possible exception would be a Cherokee Trailhawk V6. The CX-5 would be on the list if it had a better torque option.