Blake Noble

I believe you are just upset that the leather seats won't rub your bloated ass five different ways.

Honestly, I like the first year 1973 Cutlass, same for the 1973 Chevelle and LeMans/GTO/Grand Am. I've actually gained respect for the Colonnade coupes. They still pale in comparison to their predecessors from the 1968 - 1972 era, but they are no longer unattractive to me. The first year cars are actually somewhat handsome in spite of their flaws.

Whoop-de-f@#kin-do.

Yes, I was about to say, if there is going to be any future "luxury" Kia model, it would most likely be based on the Hyundai Genesis.

Our friends over at GME also had a role in development of this car, if I'm not mistaken. Not only was it supposed to be a design proposal for the Corvette, but it was also meant to be a design proposal for a next-generation Opel GT. You'll find proof of this in this timeline here, under the 1971 section, when GM initiated development. And Sixty-8, I find it interesting that you're making Porsche connections here, as this concept car was based on a Porsche 914 chassis after all. It's also interesting that you are mentioning the Pacer/928 design connection here, as the rotary engine GM was developing for XP-897 was supposed to also be used in the Pacer.

Well, considering that even a base Mustang, which stickers around seventeen-grand, doesn't feature them, you come to expect a little more for your money out of the base Camaro, which won't sticker as low as the aforementioned Mustang.

Mine will be the stripper LS model, so I guess there's no way I can get around the base steel wheels unless, like I said, GM offers an upgrade.

I'm sorry, gm4life, but seeing them on an actual production Camaro makes me hate them even more. Looks like I'm going to be looking for an aftermarket solution to this problem unless GM decides to offer an aluminum wheel option for the LS models.

toxic sludge

I don't really find the steel rims attractive, IMHO.

Word of caution: your neck is going to itch like hell. You might want to consider just shaving everything under your chin and jaws and on your neck for more comfort.

A modern-day incarnation of the Nissan 240SX would catch my attention.

It's a small car that looks worthy of its asking price. However, the dash IP is quite busy in it's appearance.

I mostly prefer coupes over sedans. There are few sedans I would seriously consider purchasing.

Great, now where's that manual transmission at?

Again, I think of that Kurt Vonnegut quote upon reading this.

Those are the only two photos I can guarantee you'll find of the Syclone II prototype on the internet. 56k users beware! :rotflmao: The Typhoon II went on to be a SEMA showcar, actually. You could build your own "second-gen" Sy/Ty. Just use the all-wheel drive system from the Bravada, and install a 4.3L V6 with a turbo and a five-speed, and presto!

I remember reading a quote by Kurt Vonnegut that went, "We probably could have saved ourselves, but were too damned lazy to try very hard ... and too damn cheap." Now, why do I only see a top-ranking GM executive saying those exact words the theoretical day after the company goes down?

Have a safe flight back, PCS.

FAIL.

Auto designer (first choice) or vocalist/guitarist for a metal band.

They should have used the center stack from the Calais. That would have been a much better fix.

Has it been a bad week for mythical creatures or what? We've found "Bigfoot's corpse," caught the Chupacabra on good old fashioned VHS, and some Plum Island pug-freak has washed ashore on a beach in New York. I wonder if the Loch Ness Monster is up next and if he'll wade out of the water to a local pub and just order up a cold one.

You have a valid point here. It's common sense, really. However, I do tend to think that the Asian manufacturers in North America have one advantage over the domestic automakers here in that they do not have Unions. The UAW, etc., have had a role in the degradation of the Big Three and the rise of Asia Inc. However, poor management of the domestic automakers is also to blame. But that is besides the reason why I posted what I posted. This thread has pretty much been one big argument from the start.

Great, another pissing match.