Sixty8panther

MY 09 in CY 08 makes sense both in terms of the reality of rolling out ZETA & keeping with tradition... it will be the 40th Anniversary of the best Camaro model year ever. 9-teen-60-nine!

Freedom

When does the Aveo SS come out? Not every freekin Chevrolet model should be offered in SS trim.

I'd rather drive the scummiest 3rd gen. Camaro out there than a Camry with "rear-door delete". :wink: He lives in PA, not FL. A Motorcycle is a 2.5 season toy, not regular transportation in states that salt & sand the roads.

Don't forget the frog-eyes.

Back in Andover when working landscaping I dug up a part of the backyard that had not been touched since the late 50s... I discovered a valve stem out of some car from probably the 30s that was all pretty much looking like the Smokestacks on the Titainc in terms of corrosion & a great-condition silver spoon.

Same as I call my Q45 a Datsun I thought you would have given it to me... I was just trying to throw it down JDM-Style yo! I'm the O.G. of RWD Datsuns.

Sorry for the super-thick sarcasm... I just thought they might go out on a limb a bit and offer a really cool shade of blue or burgundy... not three shades of slate-gray. I think my original post made that clear. WhyTF offer three "colors" that are in reality just varying degrees of B&W. Those rims look about 0.00002% different from the ones on my old 1997 STS. We need more than this to combat the likes of BMW & Mercedes. The new coors sure SOUND different. Thunder Gray Gold Mist Sunset Blue

Oh I'm not saying a ZL1 Camaro with the LS7 would sell in big #s. make like 100 of them... or even 69 a year like the 1969s... it'll pretty much be a colector's item right from the time the sheetmetal is stamped... but even at $90,000 it would sell.

Style wise it's got all the Koreans, the Fit & Yaris over a barrell.

Yup.... not-so-damn-cheap looking economy cars like this one are rare on our shores. The Aveo, Malibu & Ion sedan look like @$$ compared to this. Even w/out the wide fender flares & ground effects.

Well... true, you got me there. However, maybe (actaully almost certainly) if Oldsmobile had built a nice RWD land-barge like the Infiniti Q45 back in the late 90s they might still be around. Instead they made a four door Toronado & a jelly-bean shaped Cutlass and effectively alienated 98% of their propective customers. Nice job GM. Within 10 years of the Cutlass being one of the best selling cars in the USA Oldsmobile tried to do a J-turn in the marketplace & dethrone Lexus as the new "Yuppie-wagon must have", now Buick is making the same damn mistake. Yes... go ahead & tell me how Geriatrics don't matter.

Yes... I agree. Transverse mounted motors & FWD suck. The FWD STS's North* makes a 2005 Impala or what have you seem downright accessible by comparison. In any case the stupidest thing about new VWs is that the ,otor on them is mounted well ahead of the front axles & therefore wayyy out front. Nice weight distribution.

Happy, HAPPY, hApPy & HAPPY birthday to alla-yous.

So when are they going to make regulation basketball nets 11 feet off the ground so 3-pointers & slam-dunks are a challenge again? Basketball is the only game where the final score looks like a telephone number.

This calls for a celebration. Long live RWD!!!

Flock of Seagulls!

I was going to say SMART because it has three or four lugnuts.

Never say never.... all the original ZL1s were made in 1969 Chevy made only two Corvettes but they produced 69 Camaros. They made 50 for the sake of homogulation and then 19 more were ordered by one of the famous sticker & emblem COPO dealers. I think it was NICKEY but it might have been Baldwin-Motion or even Berger. Or then again it might have even been Yenko. In any event... a lot of people *doomsayers* said we Camaro fans had our heads in the clouds and there would be no concept.. not ion 2006, or 2007 or probably ever. Those people woudl tell you an LS7 will never see production in a Camaro. I hope they like the taste of their own foot. :wink:

So very true XP... I just hope my eventual 59 Buick will get double digits... I got 11-14 in the Camaro most of the time so a 401 nailhead or whatever draging around an extra 1000 pounds or so will not do any better. I think gas will stabilize at $3.00, it's still too much but not enough to piss off the masses to the point of it effecting politics and most car purchases.

It's depressing that we will never know.

I loved the M-Roadster off the previous gen. Z3. This however is just very fugly. And it's got NO excuse to have a B-piller. I'll take a Solstice coupe when it comes out.... hopefully that's a HT.

But who really won all those WRCs in the 1980s & 1990s? The Ford Escort or the Cosworth RS2000???? Who cares. I've been saying since I was knee-high to a grasshoper that Chevrolet as a brand needs to get established in the European & world stage. Growing up as a kid in Europe in the 80s the only USA brand that is a hoesehold name is Ford, only because of their racing history there. This is great news.

I love our 1997 Infiniti Q45, it's a great car with very few flaws but when I read this review I was a little confused. It sounds morem like a factory issued press release than a review. This guy has nothing but good things to say abotu the Q45. It's all peaches & cream. I mean I can find about half a dozen considerable flaws and/or complaints about our car. A few related to ergonomics, a few other inferior features as compared to the 1997 STS. Like for one: the Northstar is SO much more motor than the 4.1 short-stroke Q motor. Anyway see what you think: http://www.cartrackers.com/am/showarticle.php?id=6841

Check out this custom one-off. 1929 Ford with an early 90s 1st gen. Q45 motor transplant. It predated the Lexus hot rod by a few years but I never heard of it until just now when I found it on some random Infiniti forum. Later on as shown here it was obviouslt deemed cool enough by the powers that be at Nissan & Infiniti to dipslay at the show next to a 2nd gen. Q45 in the 97-01 era. Actaully that looks like a 99-01 Touring edition in the back ground.