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    2016 Cadillac ATS and CTS Feature An Improved V6, Eight-Speed Automatic


    • Minor Powertrain Changes Are Coming For the 2016 Cadillac ATS and CTS


    Cadillac is giving the ATS and CTS some much needed improvements for the V6 powertrain.

     

    2016 models will introduce a new version of 3.6L DI V6 producing 335 horsepower and 284 pound-feet of torque, an increase 14 and 9 respectively. Along with more power, the 3.6L will see a 9 percent increase in combined fuel economy - 24 MPG for rear-wheel drive and 22 MPG for all-wheel drive models.

     

    The V6, along with the 2.0L turbo-four will gain the eight-speed automatic transmission.

     

    Source: Cadillac

     

    Press Release is on Page 2



    New Technologies Boost Efficiency for 2016

    • CYLINDER DEACTIVATION AND START/STOP SYSTEMS BEGIN PRODUCTION ON ATS AND CTS PRODUCT LINES


    Renowned for luxury and design, Cadillac has recently added dynamic driving performance to its list of attributes. Now as 2016 model year production begins, Cadillac adds new fuel-saving technologies. Active Fuel Management and Automatic Stop/Start technologies, and widespread use of a new 8-speed transmission, are combining to raise fuel economy ratings and reduce emissions in Cadillac’s portfolio.
    Cadillac’s all-new six cylinder engine contains Active Fuel Management, or cylinder deactivation, technology enabling it to seamlessly switch from six-cylinder to four-cylinder operation under certain light-load conditions, while maintaining excellent performance. The new 3.6-liter engine is part of the 2016 ATS and CTS product lines. Additionally, the Cadillac Escalade luxury SUV’s V8 will shift to four-cylinder operation in many daily driving conditions, as will Cadillac’s all-new high performance CTS-V sedan.
    Cadillac’s advanced engine technology will accelerate in the new Twin Turbo-powered CT6 prestige sedan, which will be the world’s only six-cylinder engine to combine turbocharging with cylinder deactivation and Stop/Start technology.
    Cadillac’s ATS and CTS also offer a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine, the most popular choice among buyers. These models also see fuel economy improvements in 2016 via the use of Automatic Start/Stop, or AutoStop, technology. This system reduces emissions and fuel consumption by automatically turning off the engine when the car is stationary, such as at red light. The engine quickly and automatically resumes as soon as the driver releases the brake.
    Previous Start/Stop systems often relied on the car’s battery system. Cadillac employs a voltage stabilization system powered by ultracapacitors to re-start the engine. This alternative power source inside the car enables smoother and quicker re-starts compared to previous systems, while enhancing durability by reducing strain on the existing electrical systems.
    Cadillac’s new 8-speed transmission nets another efficiency gain, and like the new V6 engine, just started production in the 2016 ATS and CTS.
    “While these new systems increase efficiency, a main focus in engineering at Cadillac is to integrate these systems smoothly with no compromise to the driving experience,” says David Leone, Cadillac executive chief engineer. “Our new 8-speed transmission was developed internally for fast and smooth shifting in every situation with Cylinder Deactivation and Start/Stop are integrated in a more seamless manner than our competitors.”
    The result is cleaner and more fuel-efficient Cadillac models. CO2 output has been reduced up to 6 percent on 2016 ATS and CTS models.



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    I found the updated EPA estimates a bit lackluster. Basically 1 mpg gained across the board. I was hoping for better highway FE, but maybe GM is going for achievable real-world ratings.

     

    2.0T RWD 21/31/25 mpg

    3.6L RWD 20/30/24 mpg

     

    The first test of the 2016 CTS 2.0T/8A ran a sub-6 second 0-60 sprint and a mid 14 second 1/4 mile. Those are brisk acceleration times, the new V6 should have solid gains over that.

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    While it is great to spread the trans around the entire GM lineup as much as possible I'm still kind of confused why it didn't debut in a Cadillac.

     

    Are those CTS or ATS mpg numbers, cp?

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    While it is great to spread the trans around the entire GM lineup as much as possible I'm still kind of confused why it didn't debut in a Cadillac.

     

    Are those CTS or ATS mpg numbers, cp?

     

    Instrumented test was a CTS done by Car & Driver.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-cadillac-cts-test-review

     

    This trans is the light-duty 8-speed and it is indeed debuting in a Cadillac, though the '16 Camaro is on the way and will share it. The heavy-duty 8-speed is the 8L90, and it debuted in the Corvette followed by the Escalade, then a bunch of other GM trucks, and now the '16 ATS-V, CTS-V, and CT6 3.0T. Are you saying you think GM should have delayed other applications to separate Cadillac? Usually that's a cost and trickle down situation, if GM can afford to pass around the 8-speed tech, that's a good thing.

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    Okay, so it is a different transmission then. That makes more sense... Thank you for the info, cp.

     

    Well, had it been the same trans, I think it should have debuted in a Cadillac and moved across the board from there. I don't think they should have delayed the others as much as putting the money up to get the Cadillacs done first(trickle down as opposed to trickle up and over). Of course they would use it in other applications but you'd think there wouldn't be a time when a Chevy has a superior transmission than premium, German fighting, Cadillacs. And there was that time period.

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    "It’s too bad that buyers are staying away from the Cadillac in droves—they’re missing out on automotive greatness."

     

    The CTS is the best looking Cadillac.

    I really don't understand it's sales challenges.  Is it due to high price?

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    "It’s too bad that buyers are staying away from the Cadillac in droves—they’re missing out on automotive greatness."

     

    The CTS is the best looking Cadillac.

    I really don't understand it's sales challenges.  Is it due to high price?

    Actually the numbers are up. The ATS if I recall was up 44% in sales.

    The truth is the profit per car is also up much too.

    Cadillac is not longer a volume brand and will not need to relay on larger volumes to survive. They can survive on small volumes but GM will expect increases to the volume to make sure they take advantage of the mega profits per unit in this segment.

    Ford will do the same but they are 10 years behind. This is what Saved Lincoln as they were set for death with many inside Ford and enough support rallied to save them.

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    "It’s too bad that buyers are staying away from the Cadillac in droves—they’re missing out on automotive greatness."

     

    The CTS is the best looking Cadillac.

    I really don't understand it's sales challenges.  Is it due to high price?

    Actually the numbers are up. The ATS if I recall was up 44% in sales.

    The truth is the profit per car is also up much too.

    Cadillac is not longer a volume brand and will not need to relay on larger volumes to survive. They can survive on small volumes but GM will expect increases to the volume to make sure they take advantage of the mega profits per unit in this segment.

    Ford will do the same but they are 10 years behind. This is what Saved Lincoln as they were set for death with many inside Ford and enough support rallied to save them.

     

     

    Sales are up?

    Somebody should tell the source.

     

    And i have to put a stop to this 10 year lagging remark people keep perpetuating.

     

    Lincoln sedans are behind, but nowhere near that much. Kind of a subjective opinion here, but with new Conti next year, I would say they made up a lot of ground.  All new platform Lincolns are 3 years out, which will have them caught up.

     

    Lincoln SUV is about one year out, which will either put them on par with Caddy at worst, or above them at best. Somewhere in between. I will call it at about 2 years.

     

    Lincoln CUV's have the upper hand and do not trail Cadillac.

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    Actually the numbers are up. The ATS if I recall was up 44% in sales.

    The truth is the profit per car is also up much too.

    Cadillac is not longer a volume brand and will not need to relay on larger volumes to survive. They can survive on small volumes but GM will expect increases to the volume to make sure they take advantage of the mega profits per unit in this segment.

    Ford will do the same but they are 10 years behind. This is what Saved Lincoln as they were set for death with many inside Ford and enough support rallied to save them.

     

    Sales are up?

    Somebody should tell the source.

     

    And i have to put a stop to this 10 year lagging remark people keep perpetuating.

     

    Lincoln sedans are behind, but nowhere near that much. Kind of a subjective opinion here, but with new Conti next year, I would say they made up a lot of ground.  All new platform Lincolns are 3 years out, which will have them caught up.

     

    Lincoln SUV is about one year out, which will either put them on par with Caddy at worst, or above them at best. Somewhere in between. I will call it at about 2 years.

     

    Lincoln CUV's have the upper hand and do not trail Cadillac.

    Bud nothing subjective here just plain and simple real observations and track able metrics.

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/10/global-cadillac-sales-up-10-percent-to-24593-units-in-september-2015/

    It is not bragging if you can back it up.

    The truth is your ex Boeing head of Ford wanted Lincoln dead. He killed Mercury and was on is way to making Ford a single global brand that covered the segments he felt needed covered. This is why you have premium Fords that are mostly pointless as they are nearing Lincoln pricing.

    Now that he is gone and others have taken control they are working to gain ground. Yes it is true Lincoln as it is now is where Cadillac was 10 years ago. Now that is not to say it will take them 10 years to gain ground but they need to show the commitment to Lincoln as GM has shown Cadillac with real money ands real independence. Just making a fancier version with the same Ford engines is not going to cut it. Once Cadillac starts their own engines this will be a game changer. Ford can compete here but they need to be committed to it not just keep passing off what they have or they will just compete with Buick.

    I for one am glad they saved Lincoln as we have already lost too many brands. But I am not going to sit here and be delusional that Lincoln is in a good place now. I did that with Cadillac and finally woke up and realize that even as good as their cars are now it is not good enough. To gain ground in this segment you need to lead not just bench mark or dumb up lower models as being the standard others are judged by,

    Case in point you can not make a Taurus and dumb it up to a Lincoln and convince anyone you did the right thing. Now you have a better shot at taking a Cadillac and dumbing it down to a Chevy or Buick.

    This is a one way path in the luxury segment and you can move product down convincingly but never move it from the bottom up. You move it down the lower car will benefit like the Camaro. You move it up like the Taurus and you the Lincoln will suffer.

    The new Conti will be a good car with no question but it will be like the present CTS not good enough.

    I know you are smart enough to follow what I am saying here. I am in no way trying to dis your brand and only speak from watching Cadillac so the same thing. You should even be able to admit that if you are honest.

    This is the big league segment and you either go big or you compete with Lexus, Hyundai and Buick leaving a large chunk of money on the table.

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    Let's get Lincoln out of this thread.

     

    Excellent, excellent refresh. A new engine and a transmission. On top of high performance variants. This is a Cadillac equivalent of sorts to Apple's S mid-cycle upgrades to their iPhone.

     

    I presume this transmission is also compatible with AWD? 

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    This is great news for holding CTS and ATS till the new CT models come out. I just hope GM does a real game changer with the CT models that does blow away everyone. Personally, I think the whole product line could go with a Volt power train that would give amazing Torque and performance with MPG in a quiet luxury package. If you have driven a Volt or ELR you know what I mean about super quiet and amazing to drive.

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    The new CT models I expect will be mostly highly upgraded Alpha cars. To do the Volt driveline right you really need to design the platform around it. I am not sure the Alpha got that. You can see the massive improvement with the new Cruze based platform that was designed for it vs. the one that was adapted to it.

    Also you have to account for sales of this model. How many will you make vs. profits. Also factor in is the Voltec Drive line to where they are comfortable with it going in a heavier larger car? It may get 54 miles electric now in a small car but a CTS like car may only see 30 Miles, is that enough or do they need to do more work?

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    The nice thing about batteries is that, like a gas tank, they can be shaped and positioned in various ways to suit your packaging needs. Actually, because gravity isn't an issue like it is with fuel, you can probably do more with them. So as energy density increases with batteries you have a lot more leeway with packaging. Omega could probably accommodate some Voltec-type setup pretty easily, albeit (probably) with less range.

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    Not impressed with those numbers of the V6 at all. If that's all they could get out of an 'all new' engine, they should have just gone the forced induction route. Why they aren't putting a 3.0 V6 TT into everything they got baffles me.

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    Not impressed with those numbers of the V6 at all. If that's all they could get out of an 'all new' engine, they should have just gone the forced induction route. Why they aren't putting a 3.0 V6 TT into everything they got baffles me.

    If you are not impressed with that combination of power and fuel economy….which is the goal here, not just power….. then it seems Cadillac will have to prove this combination of engine and transmission's merits. I'm sure they've found the right balance between satisfying power needs and fuel economy.

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    "It’s too bad that buyers are staying away from the Cadillac in droves—they’re missing out on automotive greatness."

     

    The CTS is the best looking Cadillac.

    I really don't understand it's sales challenges.  Is it due to high price?

    CTS is priced lower than a 5-series, Lexus GS, Jaguar XF, E-class, and whatever Infiniti is calling the M37/Q70 this year.   So it isn't the price, they are already under cutting.

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    By comparison, the V6 in the C-class is 362 hp, 384 lb-ft and 24 mpg combined.  So that would be better then.

     

    As far as Lincoln goes, I think they could price the Continental at $29,995 and the 3-series would outsell it.  Lincoln is dead in the water, except for their crossovers, which are basically to Ford what GMC is to Chevy.

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    Not impressed with those numbers of the V6 at all. If that's all they could get out of an 'all new' engine, they should have just gone the forced induction route. Why they aren't putting a 3.0 V6 TT into everything they got baffles me.

    You already have people complaining about the prices. Add TT to each engine you add much more to the price tag. Also what would you use for the V sport then. Cadillac is offering a nice spread of V6 models that will hold a price that will give customers a choice. Most buyers will be happy with 335 HP as most people are fine at 300 HP in most cars. If they want more the 3.0 TT will be around 400 HP for the V sport when it arrives.

    You need to let them play the rest of the cards they hold and see the whole picture.

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    The nice thing about batteries is that, like a gas tank, they can be shaped and positioned in various ways to suit your packaging needs. Actually, because gravity isn't an issue like it is with fuel, you can probably do more with them. So as energy density increases with batteries you have a lot more leeway with packaging. Omega could probably accommodate some Voltec-type setup pretty easily, albeit (probably) with less range.

    You can shape them to help but you still need to keep them low and as close to the center of the car and balance as possible. Put the weight in the wrong spots and you will have a evil handling car with that much weight.

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    Wonder if the V6 will be getting under the hood of the Camaro in a year or so.

     

    Not sure if I misunderstood you, but yes the 335 hp LGX is the Camaro's midlevel engine upon release.

    Wow, I've been too fixated on the four and smallblock :D

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    Not impressed with those numbers of the V6 at all. If that's all they could get out of an 'all new' engine, they should have just gone the forced induction route. Why they aren't putting a 3.0 V6 TT into everything they got baffles me.

    You already have people complaining about the prices. Add TT to each engine you add much more to the price tag. Also what would you use for the V sport then. Cadillac is offering a nice spread of V6 models that will hold a price that will give customers a choice. Most buyers will be happy with 335 HP as most people are fine at 300 HP in most cars. If they want more the 3.0 TT will be around 400 HP for the V sport when it arrives.

    You need to let them play the rest of the cards they hold and see the whole picture.

     

     

    A boosted six cylinder is the standard of this segment. Cadillac is trying to compete with less while having to try to overcome their inferior perception to buyers. That just won't cut it. They need to build a car that one ups the competition in every regard, not just one or two, and count on price to do the rest. They need more power, they need more luxury, and they need to be priced in line with their rivals.

     

    Bump the V Sport up to 470 hp, and  put a 3.0 TT in the CTS below it with 375 hp. Most people being fine with 300 hp is irrelevant. By that logic, Cadillac shouldn't build the CTS-V . As always, it seems like they're just a few ingredients shy of the right recipe to show up the rest of the class.

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