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    2017 Cadillac CT6 PHEV is coming With 449 HP, 37-Mile Electric Range


    • 2017 Cadillac CT6 PHEV Revs up the Volts and Bolts

    We are now starting to get the lo down on everything to expect from the 2017 Cadillac CT6 Plug-In Hybrid. Before now, the most popular and factual stories about it were that it was going to be produced in China at GM's shared (with SAIC) plant in Shanghai.

     

    What we know:

     

    - The vehicle will be powered by GM's 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder coupled with two electric motors.

     

    - The lithium-ion battery pack will share the Chevy Volt's 18.4 kilowatt-hour capacity

     

    - Full system horsepower is 449HP

     

    - 0-60 is expected to be 5.4 seconds.

     

    - Cadillac is also claiming an electric-only range of 37 miles.

     

    We also know that the CT6 won’t use the same battery-pack layout as the Volt. Like the Chevy BOLT, the battery will be integrated into the floor, which according to Cadillac, will help increase vehicle stiffnes, but like the VOLT, the CT6 will use a two-motor drive system, adding one more planetary gearset and two more clutches.

     

    The Engine will be built in MAryland along side that of the Chevy Spark EV in White Marsh's Allison PLant. Expect the luxury PHEV to go on sale late this year. as a 2017 model.

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    It's pretty compelling,

     

    Would I get it though?

     

    No. I would get a different CT6. 


    It's pretty compelling,

     

    Would I get it though?

     

    No. I would get a different CT6. 

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    I dunno. Until the TTV8 arrived I would think this would be my choice of all variations of the CT6. Talk about luxury. Acceleration is on point.. and the 37 miles of EV driving is a helluva bonus. In truth.. like the previous Volt owners will attest to.. U could drive this car every day and never use gasoline until it was time to do a annual burn off

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    The burn-off is generally quarterly.

     

    Another feature of the CT6 is the ability to save the battery for later.    For example, if you know you're going to be sitting in traffic later,  you can activate that feature, drive along on the highway using gasoline, and then flip back into EV mode once you get into the city. 

     

    I'm interested in what the shifts in this will feel like.  It won't be like a CVT, but it won't be like an auto-box either. 

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    So Question, being a lover of Cadillac and I do love the CT6, why would they not want to use the BOLT battery pack on this thing giving it the industry the current best Hybrid car out there? At this price point it would KICK Tesla Butt.

     

    Imagen a CT6 with 225 mile range in pure electric mode and with the engine then give you another 3-400 miles. This would kick all luxury auto's around.

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    So Question, being a lover of Cadillac and I do love the CT6, why would they not want to use the BOLT battery pack on this thing giving it the industry the current best Hybrid car out there? At this price point it would KICK Tesla Butt.

     

    Imagen a CT6 with 225 mile range in pure electric mode and with the engine then give you another 3-400 miles. This would kick all luxury auto's around.

     

    weight and packaging. The Bolt won't have the performance characteristics of a Tesla.  In order for the CT6 to compete, it would need to be within that performance range and the Bolt's battery pack likely wouldn't support that sort of performance.... .  and as we all know, if the Cadillac is 0.000001 seconds slower to 60 mph than a competitor's much more powerful car priced $30k more, then SMK will deem it a failure. (Yes I'm trolling SMK... it's my site... bite me)

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    The burn-off is generally quarterly.

     

    Another feature of the CT6 is the ability to save the battery for later.    For example, if you know you're going to be sitting in traffic later,  you can activate that feature, drive along on the highway using gasoline, and then flip back into EV mode once you get into the city. 

     

    I'm interested in what the shifts in this will feel like.  It won't be like a CVT, but it won't be like an auto-box either. 

     

     

    Prime.. not to mention I'm betting good money that the range even on a cold day will be being reported as well into the 40s. 

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    37 mile range and 0-60 in 5.4 seconds is pretty good for an overall balance of fuel economy and acceleration/performance.  The price point is key.  It should be priced the same as the TT V6 car, so you trade a little acceleration but pick up the electric range.

     

    As far as Tesla goes, they can't go after them with a plug in.  If it burns gas it doesn't really meet the emission free drying idea, and a Tesla has 13 moving parts or something crazy, there is hardly any maintenance on them.  Plus a Tesla Model S is quicker than a Corvette Z06 or Ferrari 488 GTB.  

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    The burn-off is generally quarterly.

     

    Another feature of the CT6 is the ability to save the battery for later.    For example, if you know you're going to be sitting in traffic later,  you can activate that feature, drive along on the highway using gasoline, and then flip back into EV mode once you get into the city. 

     

    I'm interested in what the shifts in this will feel like.  It won't be like a CVT, but it won't be like an auto-box either. 

     

     

    Prime.. not to mention I'm betting good money that the range even on a cold day will be being reported as well into the 40s. 

     

     

    Uh, no it won't.

     

    Several reviewers of the Volt in cold climates Michigan, Toronto, and the state of Washington have reported closer to the low 40s of electric range when fully charged in cold weather.

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    So Question, being a lover of Cadillac and I do love the CT6, why would they not want to use the BOLT battery pack on this thing giving it the industry the current best Hybrid car out there? At this price point it would KICK Tesla Butt.

     

    Imagen a CT6 with 225 mile range in pure electric mode and with the engine then give you another 3-400 miles. This would kick all luxury auto's around.

     

    You're right.

     

    But Cadillac didn't see the writing on the wall. They could have been right up there - with 200 miles of range in the CT6 or some other vehicle that fills that role.

     

    Tesla Model S outsells the S-Class in America. It's going to come very close to the global sales of the S-Class soon as well.

     

    I imagine though that Cadillac is worried about vehicles cannibalizing sales of their entrenched nameplates. But like their advertising is supposed to communicate - daring greatly is what moves the world forward.

     

    The thing is, a company like GM doesn't even need to wait out this transition period. Like Porsche's Mission E, Omega should produce an all-electric vehicle only. But apparently the marketing head think's that's a dead approach. I hope he reconsiders.

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    The Model S outsold the CTS and XTS too.   But the Model S was the only Tesla on sale, and there isn't another pure EV in that segment either.  Once Tesla has 3-4 models to spread the sales around, and others start to sell pure EV luxury cars, we'll see if the Model S sales hold up.  

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    The Model S outsold the CTS and XTS too.   But the Model S was the only Tesla on sale, and there isn't another pure EV in that segment either.  Once Tesla has 3-4 models to spread the sales around, and others start to sell pure EV luxury cars, we'll see if the Model S sales hold up.  

     

    I still just sneer how Tesla crops up everywhere now whenever any large luxury vehicle is talked about.

     

    I mean, I don't want to pull out my Trump card...but everyone underestimated Trump, and now to dismiss him is ludicrous.

     

    Tesla doesn't have to win. They've moved the world forward. You've got Porsche doing sacrilegious things. You've got Bentley, Rolls, committed to electric. You've got all America Cadillac heading there. The sheep will follow, and the chickens will roost.

     

    That's what they wanted to - make the vehicle mainstream. Not a fad - it's going to happen. And the Bloomberg article, about the glut of incoming oil is correct. We're going to see internal combustion engines fighting for their life to remain relevant. Even in performance realms. 

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    The burn-off is generally quarterly.

     

    Another feature of the CT6 is the ability to save the battery for later.    For example, if you know you're going to be sitting in traffic later,  you can activate that feature, drive along on the highway using gasoline, and then flip back into EV mode once you get into the city. 

     

    I'm interested in what the shifts in this will feel like.  It won't be like a CVT, but it won't be like an auto-box either. 

     

     

    Prime.. not to mention I'm betting good money that the range even on a cold day will be being reported as well into the 40s. 

     

     

    Uh, no it won't.

     

    Several reviewers of the Volt in cold climates Michigan, Toronto, and the state of Washington have reported closer to the low 40s of electric range when fully charged in cold weather.

     

     

     

    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

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    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

     

     

     

    You can swear all you like. ask and you shall receive.

     

    Skip to mark 2:45.

     

    Yup. And that's not even cold weather. 30 degrees. Yeah. 

     

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    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

     

     

     

    You can swear all you like. ask and you shall receive.

     

    Skip to mark 2:45.

     

    Yup. And that's not even cold weather. 30 degrees. Yeah. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for doing the work. U are good for something I see. The bottom line is that the CT6 is not using the same battery so U don't kno jack $h! until they actually do the test. Lastly.. I don't kno where U come from.. and seriously don't care.. so don't tell.. , but 30 degrees is cold in my neck of the woods.

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    With or without Tesla, electric cars would eventually replace gasoline.  It may not happen in the next 10 years, but it will some day.  Once a 300-400 mile range electric sedan with solid acceleration is on sale for $25,000, then the gasoline engine is in trouble.   One day battery technology will be cheap enough for a Bolt to be priced like a Chevy Sonic, or for a Nissan Leaf to be priced like a Sentra.  This is probably the same time when a Camry becomes a pure EV and it still costs the same as it does now, and they'll still sell 400,000 of them a year.  Might take 20-30 years, but it will happen.

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    With or without Tesla, electric cars would eventually replace gasoline.  It may not happen in the next 10 years, but it will some day.  Once a 300-400 mile range electric sedan with solid acceleration is on sale for $25,000, then the gasoline engine is in trouble.   One day battery technology will be cheap enough for a Bolt to be priced like a Chevy Sonic, or for a Nissan Leaf to be priced like a Sentra.  This is probably the same time when a Camry becomes a pure EV and it still costs the same as it does now, and they'll still sell 400,000 of them a year.  Might take 20-30 years, but it will happen.

     

     

    I agree. What also needs to happen is a more plentiful, efficient, and quicker charging infrastructure put in the exact same places and convenient locations as a run-of-the-mill gasoline station is now

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    People can charge at home.  The only place you really need the charging stations is on turnpikes, interstate rest stops, and the sort of places that are along long haul driving routes that aren't near a city.   The people that are afraid of electric cars act like there aren't electric outlets all over the place.   I don't see people freaking out needed a gas powered battery extender for their phones.  They just plug it in and charge it at night and use it all day, and charge it the next night.  If you travel on vacation for a week, you take your charger with you.  The car will be no different.

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    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

     

     

     

    You can swear all you like. ask and you shall receive.

     

    Skip to mark 2:45.

     

    Yup. And that's not even cold weather. 30 degrees. Yeah. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for doing the work. U are good for something I see. The bottom line is that the CT6 is not using the same battery so U don't kno jack $h! until they actually do the test. Lastly.. I don't kno where U come from.. and seriously don't care.. so don't tell.. , but 30 degrees is cold in my neck of the woods.

     

     

     

    No no no. Excuse me, to quote you would be to stoop to your level. 

     

    Mr. Dowdell, who happens to be rocket scientist answered your remark for you even before you mentioned range. Find it in this thread,

     

    And I don't care what you think - but crying that 30 degrees is cold is nonsensical. 

     

    More like -30 Farenheit. That's cold. And you're going to get maybe 25 miles of range. Heck in a Tesla you'd be lucky to get 125 miles. It's batteries - it's how they work. Sheesh.

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    30 degrees Fahrenheit is cold, Casa?

     

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    Shhhhhhh.

    Dont tell anybody, but you might be a wussy boy!

     

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    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

     

     

     

    You can swear all you like. ask and you shall receive.

     

    Skip to mark 2:45.

     

    Yup. And that's not even cold weather. 30 degrees. Yeah. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for doing the work. U are good for something I see. The bottom line is that the CT6 is not using the same battery so U don't kno jack $h! until they actually do the test. Lastly.. I don't kno where U come from.. and seriously don't care.. so don't tell.. , but 30 degrees is cold in my neck of the woods.

     

     

     

    No no no. Excuse me, to quote you would be to stoop to your level. 

     

    Mr. Dowdell, who happens to be rocket scientist answered your remark for you even before you mentioned range. Find it in this thread,

     

    And I don't care what you think - but crying that 30 degrees is cold is nonsensical. 

     

    More like -30 Farenheit. That's cold. And you're going to get maybe 25 miles of range. Heck in a Tesla you'd be lucky to get 125 miles. It's batteries - it's how they work. Sheesh.

     

     

     

     

    Coupla things I could address.. such as U not quoting me.. then did.. but why bother. I kno how the batteries work. I realize that the norm would be that the 37 mile range would go down in the extreme cold.. but it seems to me that we are at an impasse as to what is cold. Not only that.. my comment was more pertaining to the fact that GM has lately been conservative in their range numbers. Call me an optimist.. and U a constant doggie downer, but I will still wait and see what the CT6 PHEV does before making a definitive statement

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    People can charge at home.  The only place you really need the charging stations is on turnpikes, interstate rest stops, and the sort of places that are along long haul driving routes that aren't near a city.   The people that are afraid of electric cars act like there aren't electric outlets all over the place.   I don't see people freaking out needed a gas powered battery extender for their phones.  They just plug it in and charge it at night and use it all day, and charge it the next night.  If you travel on vacation for a week, you take your charger with you.  The car will be no different.

    I honestly don't know but I doubt you can just park next to any random building and just plug your car into their outlet. I know if I was the business owner I wouldn't allow that unless they were buying products or services. So yes, there are outlets EVERYWHERE but you can't just use one owned by somebody else.

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    Difference is that I'm an optimist.. f@#k the reviewers. I'm talking about real people who actually own the cars. I don't kno if U have picked up on that about yet. I very seldom go strictly by what reviewers come up with.. normally relying on real world stats over biased ones. Furthermore I would love to see a review.. just for kicks that states that the 2016 Volt dropped from 53 to 40s in cold weather

     

     

     

    You can swear all you like. ask and you shall receive.

     

    Skip to mark 2:45.

     

    Yup. And that's not even cold weather. 30 degrees. Yeah. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for doing the work. U are good for something I see. The bottom line is that the CT6 is not using the same battery so U don't kno jack $h! until they actually do the test. Lastly.. I don't kno where U come from.. and seriously don't care.. so don't tell.. , but 30 degrees is cold in my neck of the woods.

     

     

     

    No no no. Excuse me, to quote you would be to stoop to your level. 

     

    Mr. Dowdell, who happens to be rocket scientist answered your remark for you even before you mentioned range. Find it in this thread,

     

    And I don't care what you think - but crying that 30 degrees is cold is nonsensical. 

     

    More like -30 Farenheit. That's cold. And you're going to get maybe 25 miles of range. Heck in a Tesla you'd be lucky to get 125 miles. It's batteries - it's how they work. Sheesh.

     

    It's true... batteries just don't function the same in the cold. That's yet another thing that hold me up from seriously considering an EV yet. If my range is nearly cut in half of 200 miles.. ouch. And we'd be talking at least 1/4 of the year maybe more. Nov-Mar most likely. Not solidly through those months as there'd be warm days but in general. 

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    37 mile range and 0-60 in 5.4 seconds is pretty good for an overall balance of fuel economy and acceleration/performance.  The price point is key.  It should be priced the same as the TT V6 car, so you trade a little acceleration but pick up the electric range.

     

    As far as Tesla goes, they can't go after them with a plug in.  If it burns gas it doesn't really meet the emission free drying idea, and a Tesla has 13 moving parts or something crazy, there is hardly any maintenance on them.  Plus a Tesla Model S is quicker than a Corvette Z06 or Ferrari 488 GTB.  

    There is far more moving parts than 13 on a Tesla, Maybe 13 moving points on a single wheel due to the suspension, breaks, spindle, etc. but for sure more than 13 moving parts on their cars.

     

    According to the Tesla web site you can pay the following:

     

    Its $600 annual service and update program, Teslas technicians will inspect the cooling systems for the battery pack, drive motor, and power electronics to ensure that everything's in good working order yearly.

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