Excited yes, very cool, but track record shows he has problems delivering. Hopefully he can do it this time. Will be exciting to get more info on this. Hopefully at least mid size and not a compact.

4 hours ago, dfelt said:

Excited yes, very cool, but track record shows he has problems delivering. Hopefully he can do it this time. Will be exciting to get more info on this. Hopefully at least mid size and not a compact.

hopefully he builds something that doesn't look like it is a balsa wood kit car from the inside. 

45 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

hopefully he builds something that doesn't look like it is a balsa wood kit car from the inside. 

Very true, that has been an issue too. He has some great ideas, but I am skeptical of him being able to deliver. 

So far out of all the EV startups, the only one I really expect anything from is Rivian and I expect him to do better than Tesla.

Lucky for CJ the CEO is he is married and has 3 boys so he is more grounded than Musk ever will be.

13 hours ago, dfelt said:

Lucky for CJ the CEO is he is married and has 3 boys so he is more grounded than Musk ever will be.

Marital status has zero to do with whether one is "grounded" or not.  Give me your car keys and your phone for a period of 4 weeks, and use that time to search your conscience for enlightenment and guidance to correct the error of your ways.

^ Totally agree. Marital status has absolutely zero to do with business success, and being unmarried is not Musk's issue.

Musk already has 5 kids and has been married twice..  running 3 companies simultaneously may be a bigger issue....

3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Marital status has zero to do with whether one is "grounded" or not.  Give me your car keys and your phone for a period of 4 weeks, and use that time to search your conscience for enlightenment and guidance to correct the error of your ways.

Disagree with you and @balthazar as it has been proven that marriage in a committed long term relationship, helping to raise the kids does give a strong sense of grounding.

Musk is a smart but social idiot that has no problem marring people, having a kid and then moving onto the next piece of hot ass and leaving the mother to raise the kid alone. There is nothing grounded in his sense of commitment except to himself and his own fame.

CEO's that have long term marriages with kids have grown and excelled at making companies very successful. This is true be it male or female. Much research and write ups have been done on this topic. No it does not mean you have to be married to be successful, but CEO's that are with kids seem to get more right than wrong compared to the single CEO. Just look at Musk's twitter and interviews.

Being Married makes you a better Entrepreneur, Here's why!

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/309988

4 reasons being happily married could make you a better CEO

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevecooper/2013/07/31/4-reasons-being-happily-married-could-make-you-a-better-ceo/#63c186af5b29

I truly believe that a happy home life with a spouse / kids makes one more grounded in looking at the big picture of how we treat others to how we run a company. Has worked for me.

But 'sense of grounding' - however you choose to quantify that- is still no guarantee of business success. Hell, it's not even a guarantee of marital success. Again- Musk's twitter feed is not the byproduct of his marital status. The annals of automotive history are littered with happily grounded CEOs that crashed & burned their ventures- too many to count.

46 minutes ago, balthazar said:

But 'sense of grounding' - however you choose to quantify that- is still no guarantee of business success. Hell, it's not even a guarantee of marital success. Again- Musk's twitter feed is not the byproduct of his marital status. The annals of automotive history are littered with happily grounded CEOs that crashed & burned their ventures- too many to count.

True and valid points, thank you my friend. Yet I still find that while we learn from our failures, those CEO's that are better grounded tend to bounce back better.

In regards to Fisker, I have now wondered what the auto failure rate was for auto companies in the 1910 to 1930 range? 🤔

I was looking at the hundreds of Chinese auto start up companies, the few here in the US and wonder how long before we see a crash and a flow to the history books for a bunch of these companies.

Fiskar while he is a show man, I question his ability to actually deliver his auto's. I hope he does not turn out like Faraday, exciting concept auto, but yet to deliver anything but spending others money.

13 hours ago, dfelt said:

In regards to Fisker, I have now wondered what the auto failure rate was for auto companies in the 1910 to 1930 range? 🤔

The early failure rate for start-up auto ventures was tremendous. Have a book here at hand, American Trucks & Commercial Vehicles 1891-1996. It catalogs 1,250 makes... maybe 25 remain?