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    Senate Passes Mandatory Black Boxes In Vehicles By 2015, House Expected To Follow


    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    May 15, 2012

    Its been working its way through the halls of congress, but according to Car and Driver, the "black box" mandate for cars could be in the books. The Senate has already voted to adopt a transportation bill that has a provision mandating event data recorders to be equipped into new vehicles starting in 2015. The House of Representatives is considering a version with slightly different language.

    The current state of the bills are "vague". In the Senate version, the bill states that devices must “capture and store data related to motor vehicle safety” and release this information to an “interoperable data access port.” Changes are expected if this does go into law.

    Of course, when you bring up government regulations and "black boxes", the tin foil hats come out. Currently in the Senate version, there's a provision that the data contained in the little electronic box is actually owned by the owner of the vehicle. If the law wants access to the data, they will likely have to get a court order. But there is a caveat: first responders such as paramedics would also have access to the data, without a court order, if it would help them in an emergency.

    Source: Car & Driver, GovTrack.us (To see the Senate version of the bill)

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    This calls for Revolution, Death to these Morons who want to create a Cast system and control what you can and cannot do. One more reason to hold onto older vehicles. I REFUSE to have the GOV see what I do in my vehicle. This is NOT about Safety, but about Controll.

    I wish the worst to all the morons who voted to support this bill.

    This will build an underground network of people who will find ways to disable or remove them from vehicles.

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    Tinfoil hat time for the conspiracy theorists.

    Why so?

    The paranoid, anti-government types jump on things like this and always assume the worst...

    I suppose you'd be fine with a spy cam in your bathroom too, huh?

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    Tinfoil hat time for the conspiracy theorists.

    Why so?

    The paranoid, anti-government types jump on things like this and always assume the worst...

    I suppose you'd be fine with a spy cam in your bathroom too, huh?

    No correlation there. Black boxes in cars are similar to black boxes in airplanes.

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    No they are not!

    Airliners are public transportation, automobiles are private.

    I can't believe that you'd actually support this travesty, Cubitar.

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    No they are not!

    Airliners are public transportation, automobiles are private.

    I can't believe that you'd actually support this travesty, Cubitar.

    I don't really have an opinion one way or the other on this. Automobiles may be private, but they are driven on public roads for which you need a registration, license plate, driver's license, etc for. I would not consider aircraft to be public...they are privately owned (by people or corporations) but their travel is regulated.

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    Corporations are also known as "Publically owned"

    So yes, there is a difference.

    I have a hard time understanding how anyone who loves the freedom that the automobile represents could avoid being deeply offended by this new regulation.

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    Reality is complex. I can see how event data recorders would be useful in accidents. But they could also be used for automatic ticket generation for speeding, reckless driving, etc. And some sort of event data recorder will be necessary for Google's self-driving cars. I can see how divorce lawyers, parole officers, etc would look like to get their hands on such data also.

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    And the 'tin hats' were murmuring when the whole red light camera thing was pitched as purely safety oriented, too.

    Since then we've learned that municipalities allowed private companies to rule technicalities at the red light camera intersections irregardless of accepted safety protocols, merely to maximize revenue.

    Camino- you're dead right: this is another chip off the personal freedom block. :nono:

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    How is this not privacy intrusion? And right of freedom intrusion?

    "I want blackbox mandatory, but not for spying purposes, I promise I will not look into your driving habits."

    Signed - Government of United States

    Progressive uses these blackboxes in name of 5% savings, yeah right they do not monitor. The term blackbox used in the law is so vague and open that anything can be put in this device other than accelerometers and pressure gages to understand impact physics.

    Reality is simple, people make it complex to make themselves feel self-important.

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    No they are not!

    Airliners are public transportation, automobiles are private.

    I can't believe that you'd actually support this travesty, Cubitar.

    I don't really have an opinion one way or the other on this. Automobiles may be private, but they are driven on public roads for which you need a registration, license plate, driver's license, etc for. I would not consider aircraft to be public...they are privately owned (by people or corporations) but their travel is regulated.

    Aircrafts may be privately owned but the single difference is that the owner company is in a business to throughfare of passengers using that equipment for business purposes. Hence there is a necessity to understand what may have gone wrong in the accident to ascertain whether it was or not company's fault. Do Individuals have to go through the same too? Do you use your Grand Cherokee for taking people from Mesa to Phoenix and take $50 for the trip?

    Another government arm can easily be created just like TSA to monitor these blackboxes. Last time I saw believers of both sides on this forum were against TSA.

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    And the 'tin hats' were murmuring when the whole red light camera thing was pitched as purely safety oriented, too.

    Since then we've learned that municipalities allowed private companies to rule technicalities at the red light camera intersections irregardless of accepted safety protocols, merely to maximize revenue.

    Camino- you're dead right: this is another chip off the personal freedom block. :nono:

    This is exactly why I posted what I did. Another Freedom taken away. Wonder how long before they come up with laws that outlaw driving older auto's just so they can track you.

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    Lots of paranoia flying around in this thread.

    How can you call this Paranoia. A box that records your everything that ges on in the car and then a crazy bitch or buch who gets a lawyer and then uses this to try and make a point or insurance companies who say drive our way or we charge you ten times the rate or refuse to insure you, etc. The list is long but this is not paranoia especially when both gov and companies have always proved to use things to increase their profits or call it public safety but in reality all about control.

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