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    Rumorpile: Details Spill Out On Mercedes-Benz's Truck


    • New information comes out on Mercedes' new truck

    We are still a few years out before Mercedes-Benz launches their new midsize truck, but new details have come out about the model.

     

    CarAdvice got some information from an insider at a recent design forum in Australia. First, Mercedes will be calling the truck either X-Class or Z-Class. It seems the automaker is leaning towards X since it brings up images of ruggedness.

     

    The truck will only be offered in a crew-cab variation which allows Mercedes not to spend a lot of time developing a regular or extended cab variations. It also gives Mercedes the ability to distance their truck from the Nissan Navara - the model which Mercedes is using as a base for their truck.

     

    “Yes, to come to an attractive price we are using a common platform, but all the rest is done by Mercedes – to design, to develop the vehicle specifically to meet Mercedes criteria,” said Daimler board member Thomas Weber at the Detroit Auto Show.

     

    There will three trim levels ranging from standard work truck to a fully-loaded model with all of the luxuries. Two diesel engines; a turbocharged 2.3L four-cylinder (188 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque) and a turbocharged six-cylinder (255 horsepower and 406 pound-feet of torque) will be on offer. A part-time four-wheel drive system will be standard on the base and mid-level model. The top trim model gets a full-time system.

     

    One question still up in the air is whether or not the U.S. will get this truck. Then Mercedes-Benz USA CEO Steve Cannon expressed interest in selling it here and that a final decision is expected sometime this year.

     

    Source: CarAdvice

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    I think they should give it a word name and sell it under Mercedes-Benz Vans with Sprinter and Metris.  Quite a lot of torque from the diesels, could do well for the commercial buyer.  If they sell it in the USA, I hope it is at the Sprinter dealers, and not with the passenger car line.

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    I've only ever seen combo sprinter / car dealerships. Local mega-brand MB dealer likes to line up 10 or 12 sprinters right up front, next to s- and e-class sedans. Can't tell if it's a luxury dealership or a rental truck lot.

     

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    THis is HILARIOUS. Moneybags Daimler is buying a nissan frame, not offering either a regular or ext cab, and there's NO V-8??? Have they even LOOKED at the truck segment?

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    If they are going after the consumer rather than commercial market, it makes sense to do only a crew cab..I rarely see regular or extended cabs anymore, and some pickups don't offer regular cabs anymore..and why would they offer a V8?  The Colorado/Canyon, Frontier, and Tacoma don't offer V8s..this is going to be a midsize, since they mentioned the Navara (Frontier). 

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    It's going to be a Mercedes competitor to the GMC Denali Canyon with DuraMax.

     

     

    Interesting. Actually Daimler, the company's parent owns a lot of fleet vehicle companies, such as mass-transit solution providers...

     

    So them having another vehicle for commercial use, notably a truck isn't out of the realm of something I would expect.

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    But SMK always says an auto is $h! if it does not have a V8!

     

    So this Truck will be $h! from the Get Go after all it is NOT a REAL MB but a rebadge Nissan!

     

    On top of this, never seen a Sprinter dealership in my life, as Balthazar has stated, I only find MB Dealerships with the Sprinter vans out front next to the S, E, C, etc. class of auto. 

     

    So being the German Version of Chevy, this should fit right in for the RedNeck buyers next to the Sprinter Family haulers.

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    Yeah, the largest MB dealership in Canada (I believe) has two lots. One in front has all the top end cars easily visible.

     

    But then you cut across from the adjacent parking lot of the Canadian Tire - and you see how the floor space of the dealer is like a hangar... and all the way back, through the other side is all the commercial vans, and the opposite of that wall is a horizontal line of perpendicular spots that is hidden from the main street overlooking the property.

     

    They go to great lengths to hide the fact that those things are sold there.

     

    Ever heard of Orion buses? A Daimler Company, now defunct. But yeah, the same company that powered mass-transit in Toronto also makes Mercedes cars, the anti-thesis of cheap wheels.

     

    Of course buyers do not know, and if someone told them, they would not care. Loyalty. That...damn. 

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    One of Az's largest M-B dealers usually has a row of a 15 or so Sprinters facing the freeway, w cars and SUVs on the building forecourt which is slightly elevated and also visible from the freeway...but the M-B dealer near my house in Phoenix and the one in downtown Scottsdale near my office don't seem to have any visible Sprinter presence...

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    Sprinter vans aside, and other commercial stuff that Mercedes produces, is this pick-up truck a competitor to the Chevy Colorado work truck or is it a GMC Sierra Denali/Cadillac Escalade EXT type vehicle?

     

    Because as a commercial medium duty truck, it makes sense for Mercedes to do this, especially using a Nissan, but if this is to impress the blue bloods, it is asinine, especially using a Nissan platform.

     

    If they want to go the Lincoln Blackwood route, maybe a pure bespoke M-B chassis would be better suited...

     

    Whatever I says, not that Id be impressed with it either way.

    I am not a truck guy, I dont really care.

    But I got to laugh at the ridiculous rate Mercedes Benz wants to whore itself unto every possible real or imagined niche there is.

     

    GIF-Amused-cute-girl-happy-laugh-laughin

     

    Yes Ms. Temple,  it is quite a silly and embarrassing idea, isn't it ???!!!

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    Canyon Denali competitor if it comes to the US, maybe VW Anorak competitor in Europe.

    That is what I was thinking....

     

    I do find it a great idea for the work truck thing for Europe.

    Actually, I might even say its about bloody time!

     

    M-B produces some pretty mighty, hefty work horses for Europe and 3rd world countries.

    A European market knows how rugged those commercial trucks are. And deep rooted in European history going far back before WW2...so a light to medium pick-up truck to claim market share form Toyota Hilux, Mazda B2000, Nissan Navarro (which ironically underpins this new thing) and VW Amarok is a smart move...

     

    But...to offer this in North America would be quite silly and embarrassing in any which form.

     

    Hypocritical you are calling me because its OK for GM and GMC and Cadillac and Lincoln?

     

    Well...just like M-B has a deep rooted history for work and military trucks in Europe, as does GM with Chevy and GMC along with Ford in North America.

     

    Also...Lincoln and Cadillac no longer offer pick-up trucks, the Caddy EXT/Avalanche was sold as a SUV but one could argue it was a pick-up truck more than it was a SUV... Ford and GMC/Chevy has an image of blue collar people...selling a Denali to these people is akin to what M-B is in Europe...is contradictory to M-B's image in North America is what Im saying.

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    Not silly nor embarrassing. I think they could sell plenty on the brand name alone...they have done well w SUVs here...it's another lifestyle activity vehicle...

    I guess its how one wants to view what this world is becoming.

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    I think its because I have never equated pick-up trucks, SUVs, CUVs as status symbols.  Even the Escalade.

     

    I have always view these vehicles as work vehicles, tools. Appliances for hard work. Blue collar stuff.

     

    The off-roading 4x4s as enthusiast toys. Sure...those can be status symbols, but not of the snobby kind. Because mud is the farthest to aristocracy  in my mind.

    To each his own.

    I will continue to laugh at what this world and this society has become.

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    At one time in the distant past, trucks and SUVs were strictly work trucks..they still are for some. But for most buyers, they are family haulers and upscale commuter vehicles--go-to-work vehicles...office parking garages and lots are full of them...over the last 2 decades or so they have largely replaced full size cars and wagons. I more BMW, Merc, etc SUVs than sedans in a typical week..

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    I've only ever seen combo sprinter / car dealerships. Local mega-brand MB dealer likes to line up 10 or 12 sprinters right up front, next to s- and e-class sedans. Can't tell if it's a luxury dealership or a rental truck lot.

     

    - - - - - 

    THis is HILARIOUS. Moneybags Daimler is buying a nissan frame, not offering either a regular or ext cab, and there's NO V-8??? Have they even LOOKED at the truck segment?

    Considering they would compete with Tacoma and Colorado, I don't see why they would need a V8.  And 406 lb-ft of torque is a lot more than either of those two offer.

     

    I am not sure why they are even bothering with a pickup, except for that it is a popular and profitable body style and they probably see the ability to make money.  I think they should stick to cars and vans though,

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    I am not sure why they are even bothering with a pickup, except for that it is a popular and profitable body style and they probably see the ability to make money.  I think they should stick to cars and vans though,

     

     

     

    More niches to exploit...if it's successful, they can add more variations..I'm sure they will figure out a 'coupe' version, an AMG version, etc...  (I have seen a black Sprinter w/ AMG badging around here, but that's aftermarket modded..)

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    I will say this, there are people that spend $50-60k on Silverado High Country or F150 King Ranch trucks.  Pick up truck buyers aren't shy about spending a lot on their truck.  Where as a luxury car buyer might make $180k, but only buy a $60k E-class, I think there are pickup buyers making $50k a year buying a $50k pickup.   Truck people will put a lot of their income into their truck.

     

    So with that being said, maybe it isn't so crazy that Mercedes made a full size luxury truck, but I don't think they'll ever go down that road.  I think this mid-size truck is aimed at commercial use and work use, and you'll probably see an interior more like what is on the Metris/Vito.  If they sell it in the USA, I bet the 2.0 turbo 4 gets added to the mix.

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    I can see it being for commercial and work use in Europe, but for the US, I suspect they would lux it up...if they even bring it here. As far as commercial vehicles, I'd suspect the Metris/Vito is coming, since the small van market is growing.. 

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    It's not embarrassing to compete in a growing segment of trucks.

     

    It's embarrassing when your tagline is 'the best or nothing' and you buy your truck's chassis from a 2nd tier truck maker.

     

    As an EXTREMELY late newcomer to the truck segment, 'The Best or Nothing' should offer 'above & beyond' what the segment already does, otherwise; what does it bring to the table?

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    I've only ever seen combo sprinter / car dealerships. Local mega-brand MB dealer likes to line up 10 or 12 sprinters right up front, next to s- and e-class sedans. Can't tell if it's a luxury dealership or a rental truck lot.

     

    - - - - - 

    THis is HILARIOUS. Moneybags Daimler is buying a nissan frame, not offering either a regular or ext cab, and there's NO V-8??? Have they even LOOKED at the truck segment?

    Considering they would compete with Tacoma and Colorado, I don't see why they would need a V8.  And 406 lb-ft of torque is a lot more than either of those two offer.

     

    I am not sure why they are even bothering with a pickup, except for that it is a popular and profitable body style and they probably see the ability to make money.  I think they should stick to cars and vans though,

     

    That is only in V6 guise. The four banger overdressed Nissan has 37ft/lbs. less than a comparable Colorado/Canyon.

     

    Oh the irony of you defending a badge job made for a luxury carmaker because it happens to be the one you like LOL!

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    I will say this, there are people that spend $50-60k on Silverado High Country or F150 King Ranch trucks.  Pick up truck buyers aren't shy about spending a lot on their truck.  Where as a luxury car buyer might make $180k, but only buy a $60k E-class, I think there are pickup buyers making $50k a year buying a $50k pickup.   Truck people will put a lot of their income into their truck.

     

    So with that being said, maybe it isn't so crazy that Mercedes made a full size luxury truck, but I don't think they'll ever go down that road.  I think this mid-size truck is aimed at commercial use and work use, and you'll probably see an interior more like what is on the Metris/Vito.  If they sell it in the USA, I bet the 2.0 turbo 4 gets added to the mix.

    You have absolutely no proof of those buyer demographics at all. Just pure speculation on your part and especially given that I see quite a few folks NOT making $180K a year driving the E Class. As a matter of fact, the average income for an E Class buyer is $90K a year which is inserting for a car that can sell for more than that. 

     

    Oh the double standards that are being pedaled here.

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    I will say this, there are people that spend $50-60k on Silverado High Country or F150 King Ranch trucks.  Pick up truck buyers aren't shy about spending a lot on their truck.  Where as a luxury car buyer might make $180k, but only buy a $60k E-class, I think there are pickup buyers making $50k a year buying a $50k pickup.   Truck people will put a lot of their income into their truck.

     

    So with that being said, maybe it isn't so crazy that Mercedes made a full size luxury truck, but I don't think they'll ever go down that road.  I think this mid-size truck is aimed at commercial use and work use, and you'll probably see an interior more like what is on the Metris/Vito.  If they sell it in the USA, I bet the 2.0 turbo 4 gets added to the mix.

    You have absolutely no proof of those buyer demographics at all. Just pure speculation on your part and especially given that I see quite a few folks NOT making $180K a year driving the E Class. As a matter of fact, the average income for an E Class buyer is $90K a year which is inserting for a car that can sell for more than that. 

     

    Oh the double standards that are being pedaled here.

     

    Where did you find data that the average income of an E-class buyer is $90k a year?

     

    I also don't know anything about the next-gen Frontier or 2015 Navara platform.  Maybe the chassis isn't so bad, maybe it is.  I don't think Daimler would build a vehicle on a crap platform, and when you put Mercedes suspension parts, Mercedes 9-speed automatic transmission, Mercedes diesel engines on to it, maybe it will be good.  It isn't like there is even a concept vehicle to look at at this point.  

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    I will say this, there are people that spend $50-60k on Silverado High Country or F150 King Ranch trucks.  Pick up truck buyers aren't shy about spending a lot on their truck.  Where as a luxury car buyer might make $180k, but only buy a $60k E-class, I think there are pickup buyers making $50k a year buying a $50k pickup.   Truck people will put a lot of their income into their truck.

     

    So with that being said, maybe it isn't so crazy that Mercedes made a full size luxury truck, but I don't think they'll ever go down that road.  I think this mid-size truck is aimed at commercial use and work use, and you'll probably see an interior more like what is on the Metris/Vito.  If they sell it in the USA, I bet the 2.0 turbo 4 gets added to the mix.

    You have absolutely no proof of those buyer demographics at all. Just pure speculation on your part and especially given that I see quite a few folks NOT making $180K a year driving the E Class. As a matter of fact, the average income for an E Class buyer is $90K a year which is inserting for a car that can sell for more than that. 

     

    Oh the double standards that are being pedaled here.

     

    Where did you find data that the average income of an E-class buyer is $90k a year?

     

     

    That's got to be BS...I make considerably more than that, and wouldn't buy/lease a $60k+ car...

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