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    Michigan Governor Signs Bill Banning Direct Auto Sales


    • Why You Won't Be Able To Buy A Tesla In The State of Michigan

    The latest state to ban direct sales of vehicles is Michigan. Today, Governor Rick Synder signed a bill into law that would ban such automakers as Tesla from directly selling vehicles to consumers. This bill also allows dealers to make the decision whether or not to charge the transaction fee.

    "This bill does not, as some have claimed, prevent auto manufacturers from selling automobiles directly to consumers at realign in Michigan. That is because this is already prohibited under Michigan law. The current law states that a manufacturer shall not "ell new motor vehicle directly to a retail customer other than through its franchised dealers…" the Governor wrote in a letter to legislators.

    The bill updates a current Michigan law by removing the word 'its'. This elimination causes Tesla and any other OEM who decides to do direct sales in the state not to be able to do it. Instead they would have to sell through a network of franchised dealers.

    Supporters of this bill includes the Michigan Automobile Dealers Association and General Motors.

    "We believe that House Bill 5606 will help ensure that all automotive manufacturers follow the same rules to operate in the State of Michigan; therefore, we encourage Governor Snyder to sign it," GM said in a statement.

    Tesla on their part isn't happy with this law and blasted GM for its support of the law.

    "What's good for GM's customers is not necessarily good for Tesla's customers. What's good for gasoline cars is not necessarily good for electric cars. Tesla is selling a new product with a new technology,” the automaker said in a statement.

    “The evidence is overwhelming that a traditional dealer-based approach does not work for electric cars. Moreover, GM distorts the purpose of the franchise laws (including in Michigan), which are in place not to cement a monopoly for franchised dealers but rather to prevent companies with existing franchises from unfairly competing against them. Tesla has never used franchised dealers, so these concerns are simply irrelevant."

    Source: The Detroit News

    William Maley is a staff writer for Cheers & Gears. He can be reached at william.maley@cheersandgears.com or you can follow him on twitter at @realmudmonster.

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    I have to say this stinks of unions and status quot. We are in the 21st century and people should be able to buy how ever they want not be forced to have to deal with a dealer who may or may not really care about customer service. I feel this is a mistake and will come back to eventually bite the state once it goes through the normal legal challenges and ends up in the supreme court who I can easily see throwing out this law.

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    I am surprised that GM has signed onto this as they could really change things up down the road by endorsing direct sells.

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    Maybe GM wants to limit competition for their full electric premium models.  Of which they have none..

     

    Tesla the company and their cars are game changers and disruptors, traditional car makers are scared. 

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    game changing... if tesla and all can succeed... makes saving GM and chrysler co (at tax payer expense) look more stupid.

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    Maybe GM wants to limit competition for their full electric premium models.  Of which they have none..

     

    Tesla the company and their cars are game changers and disruptors, traditional car makers are scared. 

    Sounds like the Tucker Torpedo all over again. I would think they would love to get rid of excessive costs and move to a better way to sell with better profits.

     

    I for one would love to be able to order direct from GM, have the auto delivered to my house and go to an approved repair place only when needed.

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    Instead of GM supporting auto dealers (which have been a boat anchor for several years now), GM should compete directly with Tesla and build a $25K all-electric car.  No Tesla is cheaper than $50K right now.

     

    Remember when about 1000 dealers from GM/Ford/Chrysler were shuttered as part of the bankruptcy?  Now, Tesla wants to end this bad idea, but the states do not want to because so many state legislators either get paid by auto dealers or or own auto dealerships themselves.  Protecting NADA and its members amounts to a stupid state-sanctioned cartel that must end.  Too bad no one else is willing to do just that.

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    Granted, I am not sure why they are so worried....I don't see Telsa selling anything but Higher end products....there is much more money there anyways.

     

     

    Trust me when I say it will not last long either....Telsa will sell here soon....

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    Granted, I am not sure why they are so worried....I don't see Telsa selling anything but Higher end products....there is much more money there anyways.

     

     

    Trust me when I say it will not last long either....Telsa will sell here soon....

    I hope it does.  And perhaps Michigan could kick Snyder to the curb.  I have no problems with Republicans per se, but Snyder is an asshat.

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    Granted, I am not sure why they are so worried....I don't see Telsa selling anything but Higher end products....there is much more money there anyways.

     

     

    Trust me when I say it will not last long either....Telsa will sell here soon....

    I hope it does.  And perhaps Michigan could kick Snyder to the curb.  I have no problems with Republicans per se, but Snyder is an asshat.

     

    Not worried too much about Snyder...he pissed off one too many retirees.....

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    Rather than put your head in the ground and hide being blind to change they should support new models of selling and still collect their sales tax and move on. Technology has continually changed the way people do things in the 21st century. Change or be left in the dust and forgotten.

     

    Sounds like most people are ready for change in that state and the politicians will feel it and see it this fall. Incumbents out, new blood in and time for term limits.

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    Can't Tesla still sell it over the Internet or if they can sell it in a neighboring state, people can just drive a few hours and bring it back. If people want a Tesla they will find a way to get one.

    And over time more and more people will buy Teslas and Michigan will probably lose money and business in the long run. It is this type of backward thinking that has led many of Michigan's cities to be bankrupt and living in depression.

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    I think California is going to have to lead the nation again and require that auto manufactures sell directly to consumers. If Michigan can protect their auto manufacturers then California should do the same.

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    A lot of people have a lot of jobs and money at stake here build around  system that they were forced into years ago. They have tried to change things many times and never have been let loose.

     

    If Tesla can change this then they all should be able to join in. But in the end someone is going to lose a lot of money.

     

    There is a difference between should and can.  To negotiate this one out is going to be a tough one for both sides.

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    Yes I agree that some one will lose, but then technology we have today was not around when these out of date laws went into affect. As such, the politicians who are supposed to work for the public need to update and change for the public not the unions or business special interests.

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    Here is the deal Unions are not effected here at the dealer level.

    As for big business they are only looking to not be at a disadvantage here.

     

    Union are not even in this picture.

     

    Here is the deal. You cut Tesla loose all the major MFG are at a disadvantage as they are saddled with all the dealers they were forced to work through via government regulation. Now if offered a deal where GM, Ford and everyone else can do a company dealer and dispense of all the small dealers they would take that deal in a heartbeat. Hell they would love to sell just on the web direct if they could.

     

    But the government will not let that happen either as the local dealers too often lose out of their investment.

     

    This is a house of dominos The bottom is the MFG that has to support the dealer they were forced to sell through. You remove the bottom domino and the whole thing collapse with the small guy on the top falling the hardest.

     

    It all comes down to this. You let all the auto MFG sell cars direct and not be responsible to the dealers or you make them all have dealers. That is the only fair thing. The government dug their hole on this when they forced the trade agreements on the MFG and now that it is place they need to either stick to it or the government need to be responsible to the dealers that are forced out.

     

    Fairs fair. The MFG did not chose to be in this system so why should they pay for what they were forced into and why should one company get to skip on it just because they don't want to play by the rules others are forced to live with.

     

    Hey I am all for no independent dealers and sell direct with set prices but it has to be everyone not just one who was lucky enough not to have been around when the government enforced this system.

     

    Also be wary as if companies control the markets there is always risk here too.

     

    I am not a fan of dealers unions or politicians. But I am a fan of fair and equal here and one set free while others remain stuck with a dealer system is not fair. One set of rules for this game for everyone.

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    I agree with hyper, although he may pull a Ron Burgundy to agree to disagree on calling San Diego as Whale's vagina. The action Tesla is seeking is nothing different than how Japanese car manufacturers started selling cars in the 60s. If Elon has a good product, why is he scared of the dealership? If his stock is hovering at a P/E of infinite value with no chance of turning profit with the turn of the decade, he should invest that capital to create a dealership network with a difference.

     

    It is always easy to side the small guy, but here the small guy is being slippery and sneaky. If he gets the privilege then so should the other manufacturers.

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    Well I am not a Elon fan but I understand why he wants to do as he wants to do. There is not a MFG that would not want to sell direct as Chrysler tried it in California before they were shut down. I even had a Ford owned center here that was to sell only lease used cars direct but folks were buying new there till they got shut down.

    the problem is we have a knotted up mess of a system and to undo it someone has to lose and lose big. The MFG's even though they hate the way things are will stay with the old system if they are forced to buy out all the dealers. So that is not going to happen.

     

    The Dealers do not what to take the loss. Yes some can become factory pick up and service sites but how many will you need. maybe a 20% at best.

     

    And the politicians are lobbied on all three sides and as long as they remain neutral they will continued to be lobbied with the perks that come with that so why act.

     

    So until some on is willing to pay to dissolve the dealer system as it is and pay for it I do not see much change. The only way I can see a major change is If the SCOTUS acts with a ruling and then at that point the dealers are out cold and the lawsuits will arrive.

     

    To me the dealer system is like setting off a Nuke. Once you have done it there is no easy painless way to undo it and someone is going to suffer.

     

    I suspect things over time will remain the same. Elon can make a lot of noise but in the end even he is limited to what he can do. At that point he will deflect off to tube shooting people 1,000 MPH from NY to LA. He did that gain this week as I predicted on another site where the day before they reported his stock dropping 9%. The next day a Tube story came up again.

     

    Elon fancies himself as Tony Stark but lacks the Ironman suit.

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    A lot of people have a lot of jobs and money at stake here build around  system that they were forced into years ago. They have tried to change things many times and never have been let loose.

     

    If Tesla can change this then they all should be able to join in. But in the end someone is going to lose a lot of money.

     

    There is a difference between should and can.  To negotiate this one out is going to be a tough one for both sides.

     

    See, I don't see that at all. Tesla doesn't have any franchises, so it's not like Tesla is competing with Tesla franchises by opening their own stores.  There is absolutely ZERO consumer protection being done here.  Fisker had franchises and the owners of those cars are just as far up the creek without a paddle as if they were sold the cars by Fisker directly.  Saab owners are being saved, not by dealers, GM, or Spyker, but by a third party company that sees a business opportunity in manufacturing parts. 

     

    This is protectionism for the existing manufacturers. Not the dealers. 

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    That is the whole point Telsa has no dealers or franchises. This is what most MFG would love to do but in their case they were forced into the franchise system and now if they want to get out of it if the laws are changed the dealers or the companies will have to lose.

     

    As for the customers while I think they will find service a little more consistent since they are dealing with one network vs. many different networks of franchises they will not see major savings in the long run. If there are profits the companies will take them for the most parts.

     

    As for protection? Well if a company goes down like Fisker not much there. In the case of Saab many of the parts new and old are still there and available thorugh GM for so far back. But even in the case of a 80's Chevy Citation if it is not a common mechanical part and it is not reproduced good luck! Just the nature of the business as companies just do not keep on these parts forever anymore.

    Case in point the Console skeleton on the Fiero is broken in 75% of the cars left. Even the low mile ones they fracture with age. Where do you get one. Well you don't.

     

    The bottom line is there are good and bad to both sides but even if you wanted to make the change how to you fairly get out of this system and not damage someone financially.

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      Chevrolet - Up 12.8% (212,959 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,096,510 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Chrysler - Down 32% (16,776 Vehicles Sold This Month, 231,972 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Dodge - Down 21% (36,329 Vehicles Sold This Month, 506,858 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Fiat - Down 54% (2,606 Vehicles Sold This Month, 32,742 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ford - Down 0.6% (227,063 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,502,973 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Genesis - N/A (1,733 Vehicles Sold This Month, 6,948 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      GMC - Up 5.8% (63,415 Vehicles Sold This Month, 546,628 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Honda - Up 6.9% (143,329 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,476,582 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Hyundai - Down 4.6% (60,572 Vehicles Sold This Month, 768,057 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Infiniti - Up 20.6% (18,198 Vehicles Sold This Month, 138,293 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Jaguar - Up 259% (4,294 Vehicles Sold This Month, 31,243 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Jeep - Down 6% (83,159 Vehicles Sold This Month, 926,376 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Kia - Up 0.2% (54,353 Vehicles Sold This Month, 647,598 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Land Rover - Down 1.9% (8,279 Vehicles Sold This Month, 73,861 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Lexus - Up 3.2% (41,182 Vehicles Sold This Month, 331,228 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 17.8% (12,791 Vehicles Sold This Month, 111,724 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Maserati - Up 58.5% (1,694 Vehicles Sold This Month, 12,534 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mazda - Down 1.8% (28,754 Vehicles Sold This Month, 297,773 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Down 6.4% (32,011 Vehicles Sold This Month, 340,237 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 4.6% (3,860 Vehicles Sold This Month, 34,304 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      MINI - Down 7% (4,658 Vehicles Sold This Month, 52,030 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Down 6.4% (7,383 Vehicles Sold This Month, 96,267 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Nissan - Up 8.3% (134,545 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,426,130 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Porsche - Up 2% (4,015 Vehicles Sold This Month, 54,280 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 10% (53,597 Vehicles Sold This Month, 545,851 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Smart - Up 77.3% (1,186 Vehicles Sold This Month, 6,211 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Subaru - Up 12.3% (63,177 Vehicles Sold This Month, 615,132 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Toyota - Up 6.4% (202,047 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,118,402 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 20.3% (37,229 Vehicles Sold This Month, 322,948 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volvo - Up 8.4% (10,129 Vehicles Sold This Month, 82,724 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
    • By William Maley
      Almost a week after the state of Michigan signed into law a series of bills that allow for the testing of autonomous vehicles on public roads, General Motors announced today that it would begin testing them immediately. The plan will see GM beginning to test vehicles on road the company's technical center in Warren, MI. In due course, the testing will move to the metro Detroit area. During a press conference today, CEO Mary Barra said Detroit would be GM's primary test area for snow and cold-weather driving.
      “Revolutionizing transportation for our customers while improving safety on roads is the goal of our autonomous vehicle technology, and today’s announcement gets us one step closer to making this vision a reality. Our autonomous technology will be reliable and safe, as customers have come to expect from any of our vehicles,” said Barra in a statement.
      Along with this, General Motors is assigning the Orion assembly plant to build the next-generation autonomous testing vehicles. They'll be based on the Chevrolet Bolt EV and come equipped with LiDAR, cameras, sensors and other hardware required for full autonomy. The vehicles will be used in Detroit, San Francisco, and Scottsdale, Arizona. Currently, GM has 40 test vehicles operating in San Francisco and Scottsdale.
      Source: General Motors
      Press Release is on Page 2


      GM to Start Autonomous Vehicle Manufacturing and Testing in Michigan

      DETROIT — On the heels of the signing of the SAVE Act legislation to support autonomous vehicle testing and deployment in Michigan, General Motors will immediately begin testing autonomous vehicles on public roads. GM also announced it will produce the next generation of its autonomous test vehicles at its Orion Township assembly plant beginning in early 2017. 
      “Revolutionizing transportation for our customers while improving safety on roads is the goal of our autonomous vehicle technology, and today’s announcement gets us one step closer to making this vision a reality,” said General Motors Chairman and CEO Mary Barra. “Our autonomous technology will be reliable and safe, as customers have come to expect from any of our vehicles.”
      Testing is already underway on GM’s Technical Center campus in Warren, Michigan, and with the passage of the SAVE Act legislation will now expand to public roads on the facility’s outskirts. Within the next few months, testing will expand to metro Detroit, which will become GM’s main location for the development of autonomous technology in winter climates. 
      Workers at the Orion Township assembly plant will build test fleet Bolt EVs equipped with fully autonomous technology. The plant currently manufactures the Chevrolet Bolt EV and Sonic. The new equipment will include LIDAR, cameras, sensors and other hardware designed to ensure system safety, leveraging GM’s proven manufacturing quality standards. 
      The test fleet vehicles will be used by GM engineers for continued testing and validation of GM’s autonomous technology already underway on public roads in San Francisco and Scottsdale, Arizona, as well as part of the Michigan testing fleet.
      Since the beginning of 2016, GM has taken significant steps in its development of autonomous vehicle technology.
      In January, the company announced the formation of a dedicated autonomous vehicle engineering team and a $500 million investment in Lyft to develop an integrated network of on-demand autonomous vehicles in the U.S. In March, the company announced the acquisition of Cruise Automation to provide deep software talent and rapid development expertise to help speed development. 
      In June, GM began testing autonomous Chevrolet Bolt EVs on the public roads in San Francisco and Scottsdale. The company has more than 40 autonomous vehicles testing in the two cities.

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