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    Rumorpile: Next Gen Tundra to get Twin-Turbo V6 Hybrid

      ...rumor says it will have approximately 450 hp and 500 lb-ft of torque...

    A rumor has been leaked that the next generation of Toyota Tundra, coming in 2021, would have a twin-turbo V6 combined with an electric motor for its top trim trucks.  The tipster posted to TFLtruck.com saying that the new motor would be based on the existing 3.5-liter turbocharged V6 found in the Lexus LS and LC 500h.  It would have around 450 hp and 500 lb-ft of torque and able to achieve over 30 mpg highway. 

    In the Lexi, the engine produces 354 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque and manages 33 mpg highways.  Our suspicion is that Toyota is making up the deficit by filling the bigger Tundra with bigger electric motors and adding an expected 10-speed automatic, up from the current 6-speed.

    Currently, the Tundra uses two V8s for its powertrain, a 4.6 liter making 310hp and 327 lb-ft of torque and a 5.7 liter making 381hp and 401 lb-ft of torque. Neither engine gets better than 20 mpg currently. 

    The next generation Toyota Tundra will be using an all-new platform dubbed F1 and will likely remain in Texas for production.

    Source: TFLTruck.com



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    Tundra powertrains were born in the same day as dirt.  They need to do something to to make their truck competitive and this seems like a good first step. 

    What makes no sense to me is Toyota can win any spending battle they want with Ford and yet they let the F150 walk all over them.

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    Truck buyers aren’t interested in tundras, and it really doesn’t matter what they try to change that. It’s uncompetitive in many more areas than just power trains.

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    6 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Tundra powertrains were born in the same day as dirt.  They need to do something to to make their truck competitive and this seems like a good first step. 

    What makes no sense to me is Toyota can win any spending battle they want with Ford and yet they let the F150 walk all over them.

    So their powertrains are the same age as the G-Wagon? 

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    2 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    So their powertrains are the same age as the G-Wagon? 

    The G-wagon has 3 parts carried over from the old one, everything else is new for 2018.

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    15 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    Truck buyers aren’t interested in tundras, and it really doesn’t matter what they try to change that. It’s uncompetitive in many more areas than just power trains.

    Frames for one...

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    The G-wagon has 3 parts carried over from the old one, everything else is new for 2018.

    First off, it took them thirty years to do the things you mentioned. Second, and most importantly, it’s called a joke even though I would trust the reliability of the Tundra (flaws and all) over an overpriced German Jeep any day. 

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    There is no reason that Toyota couldn't build a chassis for the Tundra as good as F150 or Silverado's and this engine seems to be better than what anyone has now, and Toyota reliability is solid too.  Toyota doesn't lack money or resources, they just don't seem to care about the Tundra, if they didn't, the 2019 Tundra wouldn't have the same engine as the 2007 Tundra.

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    22 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    There is no reason that Toyota couldn't build a chassis for the Tundra as good as F150 or Silverado's and this engine seems to be better than what anyone has now, and Toyota reliability is solid too.  Toyota doesn't lack money or resources, they just don't seem to care about the Tundra, if they didn't, the 2019 Tundra wouldn't have the same engine as the 2007 Tundra.

    I guess just not enough potential ROI to invest heavily in a product that is a regional novelty in a market dominated by the domestic brands. 

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    2 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

    I guess just not enough potential ROI to invest heavily in a product that is a regional novelty in a market dominated by the domestic brands. 

    Without knowing all the details, it sounds like Toyota might actually be taking the market a little more seriously with this new platform plus newer powertrains (way overdue mind you, but I digress). The full size truck market is the last American make stronghold but they should not overlook a company like Toyota and to a lesser extent Nissan. Not saying that it will happen but the market has seen some crazy shifts over the last two decades and the full size truck market could be due for one soon. 

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    New Tundra = old Tundra.  Meh.  Plus the hybrid baloney... who cares?  If you own a Tundra, you ain't no cowboy.

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    12 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

    I guess just not enough potential ROI to invest heavily in a product that is a regional novelty in a market dominated by the domestic brands. 

    I thought unlike the American brands that dominate the US, Toyota Trucks seem to dominate the Global market, so could this not just be a global platform that will replace trucks everywhere and finally the US will get the same Truck that has dominated the rest of the planet meaning Ford, GM & RAM you have been put on Notice?

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    6 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I thought unlike the American brands that dominate the US, Toyota Trucks seem to dominate the Global market, so could this not just be a global platform that will replace trucks everywhere and finally the US will get the same Truck that has dominated the rest of the planet meaning Ford, GM & RAM you have been put on Notice?

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    Yes, with the Hilux...I think the Tundra is just a low volume NA model...the Hilux is smaller than the Tacoma. 

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    14 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    Yes, with the Hilux...I think the Tundra is just a low volume NA model...the Hilux is smaller than the Tacoma. 

    Got it, is there no Tundra equal that Toyota sells globally? Did not realize the Hilux was smaller than the Tacoma.

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    6 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Got it, is there no Tundra equal that Toyota sells globally? Did not realize the Hilux was smaller than the Tacoma.

    I don't think so...Tundra is an NA novelty, I believe.   Outside of a few places like the Middle East and parts of South America, there isn't much market outside NA for 'murican' style Big Gulp sized trucks.

    The current Hilux is built in Thailand. 

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    I'm still surprised they didn't make a new inline 6 for the Supra that could be shared with the Tacoma, Tundra, Sequoia, Highlander, and 4Runner to amortize the costs.. 

    20 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    So their powertrains are the same age as the G-Wagon? 

    G-Wagen is brand new!! *triggered*

    11 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Without knowing all the details, it sounds like Toyota might actually be taking the market a little more seriously with this new platform plus newer powertrains (way overdue mind you, but I digress). The full size truck market is the last American make stronghold but they should not overlook a company like Toyota and to a lesser extent Nissan. Not saying that it will happen but the market has seen some crazy shifts over the last two decades and the full size truck market could be due for one soon. 

    They appeared to take it serious when this current generation first came out as well though... 

    Then let it just rot away because it still couldn't touch the sales of the D3. 

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    4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    I'm still surprised they didn't make a new inline 6 for the Supra that could be shared with the Tacoma, Tundra, Sequoia, Highlander, and 4Runner to amortize the costs.. 

     

    I assume they stick w/ V6s as those can be shared w/ FWD transverse engine models like the Highlander, Avalon, ES, etc..

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    1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

    I assume they stick w/ V6s as those can be shared w/ FWD transverse engine models like the Highlander, Avalon, ES, etc..

    Yeah, but they could buy Mazda's

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    We all know you can’t kill a Toyota Hilux, maybe Toyota needs to advertise their durability more.

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    9 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    We all know you can’t kill a Toyota Hilux, maybe Toyota needs to advertise their durability more.

    All it takes to kill any  kind of momentum that is generated by durability ads,  is for somebody to do a political style attack ad.

     

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      Multitalented Multimedia 
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      All Highlander models come equipped with Toyota Safety Connect with a one-year trial subscription.
       
      LE and above grades offer Service and Remote Connectivity. A move up to XLE or Limited grade offers available Dynamic Navigation. A move up to Platinum grade offers standard Dynamic Navigation and the 12.3-inch screen.
       
      The JBL® Premium Audio System is standard for Limited and Platinum grades and rocks music of all genres with 1,200 watts of power playing through 11 speakers in nine locations. Clari-Fi®technology breathes new life into compressed digital music formats, with the result like a mobile concert. The system will not, however, settle arguments over which music to play.
       
      Exceptional Toyota Value, Naturally 
      Toyota’s typical outstanding value is clearly evident in the Highlander L grade, where the standard equipment list includes features that one might expect in an upgraded model:
       
      L: Toyota Safety Sense 2.0 18-in. alloy wheels 3-zone automatic climate control 4.2-in. Multi-information Display (MID) in instrument panel 8-way power driver’s seat Auto up/down for all power windows Multimedia with 8-inch touchscreen display Front seat reading lights and cargo area light. LED headlamps and taillamps Privacy glass on rear side, quarter and liftgate windows Smart Key entry on front doors and back door  
      LE adds over L: Power liftgate Blind Spot Monitor Additional multimedia capability LED fog lamps Leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift knob  
      XLE adds over LE: 10-way power driver’s seat 2nd-row sun shades 4-way power front passenger seat 7-in. Multi-information display Auto dimming rear-view mirror with garage door opener Auto LED headlamps with Auto High Beam Plated interior door handle Heated front seats LED fog lamps Machined-face alloy wheels Captain’s Chairs second row (standard) Power tilt and slide moon roof Roof rails SofTex®-trimmed seats and door trim  
      Limited adds over XLE: 120V 2nd-row power outlet 20-in. Limited style alloy wheels Ambient interior lighting Cargo area cover Driver’s seat memory Hands-free power liftgate Heated and ventilated front seats “Highlander” puddle lamp Perforated leather trimmed seats in Beige, Gray or Black Metal door scuff plates Projector beam headlamp with chrome bezels and separate, stylized DRLs Wood interior trim JBL® Audio System as standard Embedded navigation system  
      Platinum adds over Limited: 12.3-in. Multimedia head unit 20-in Platinum style wheels Adaptive, self-leveling headlamps Additional leather seating color choice: Glazed Caramel Digital display rear view mirror Embossed, perforated leather trimmed seats Head-up display Heated 2nd-row seats Illuminated door scuff plates Panoramic moonroof Rain-sensing windshield wipers Birds eye camera  
      Safety at Its Core
      The new TNGA-K platform forms the foundation for exemplary collision protection in the 2020 Toyota Highlander, while a suite of standard driver-assist technologies is designed to help prevent collisions, or to mitigate their impacts.
       
      The 2020 Highlander is equipped with the second-generation of Toyota Safety Sense (TSS 2.0). Blind Spot Monitor (BSM) with Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) are standard on LE grade and above. Rear Cross Traffic Braking (RCTB) is available with clearance sonar on Limited and above.
       
      The standard backup camera features projected path. A Bird’s Eye View Camera with Perimeter Scan, available on Limited and standard on Platinum, provides a live rotating 360-degree view around the vehicle.
       
      The 2020 Highlander is equipped with eight airbags, including side-curtain airbags for all three rows. Toyota’s Star Safety System includes Enhanced Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC), Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD), Brake Assist (BA), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), and Smart Stop Technology (SST).
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