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Vans, vans, rusty Vans....

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Maybe it is just me, but I have noticed quite a few rusty Caravans lately...

Not the beat up ones from the 80s...I'm talking late 90s early 00s....

And it is not just a bits of rust (like those who never. ever wash the car :banghead: )

This rusting is everywhere-doors, hood, hatch, front doors, sliding doors....

Now I expect this out of the older cars (80s, early 90s), but some of these vans are barely 10 years old.

A good griend of my mom has a 03 Caravan-and the sliding door alreay has a decent amount of rust on it.

Makes me sad.

I was actually considering a SB caravan to replace the wagon ( More room for friends/family hockey stuff)...

Hmmm...Do you guys notice this too.Or am I crazy?

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Maybe it is just me, but I have noticed quite a few rusty Caravans lately...

Not the beat up ones from the 80s...I'm talking late 90s early 00s....

And it is not just a bits of rust (like those who never. ever wash the car :banghead: )

This rusting is everywhere-doors, hood, hatch, front doors, sliding doors....

Now I expect this out of the older cars (80s, early 90s), but some of these vans are barely 10 years old.

A good griend of my mom has a 03 Caravan-and the sliding door alreay has a decent amount of rust on it.

Makes me sad.

I was actually considering a SB caravan to replace the wagon ( More room for friends/family hockey stuff)...

Hmmm...Do you guys notice this too.Or am I crazy?

Maybe some of those are Katrina salvaged? I rarely ever see rusty cars except those brought in from out of state (too dry here, no salty roads).

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Maybe some of those are Katrina salvaged? I rarely ever see rusty cars except those brought in from out of state (too dry here, no salty roads).

It's possible. I live in a state that loves to use salt...

But even GM's old dustbuster vans are still in better shape here....

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Haven't noticed here.

I used to see rusty cars all the time, but not in recent years.

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It's possible. I live in a state that loves to use salt...

But even GM's old dustbuster vans are still in better shape here....

They were plastic-bodied, so they better not rust! :lol:

Rust is a big problem here, but I've always found that Chrysler bodies hold up pretty well. We still see alot of old K-cars, Caravelles and vans from the '80s that are holding up okay. I even see some of those old New Yorker RWD beasties around.

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I too have seen a large amount of rusted Caravans here in Iowa...rust everywhere. Aerostars too, badly. You will be hard pressed to find a single Aerostar here with anything remotely resembling a rocker panel. We had a friend of ours give us a '92 Caravan that actually was so rusty we could not do anything with it...so it ended up becoming some 7 year old farm kids go-kart on the farm. I kid you not.

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I see tons of rusty Chrysler vans... I hate it. Rust is abuse at least cover it up and repaint. I hate Iowa's use of SALT!

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I too have seen a large amount of rusted Caravans here in Iowa...rust everywhere. Aerostars too, badly. You will be hard pressed to find a single Aerostar here with anything remotely resembling a rocker panel. We had a friend of ours give us a '92 Caravan that actually was so rusty we could not do anything with it...so it ended up becoming some 7 year old farm kids go-kart on the farm. I kid you not.

Sorry, but it's grossly unreasonable to expect a 15 year old vehicle to be pristine. Seriously. Unless the vehicle was undercoated, hand waxed a couple times a year and washed frequently, there is just no way. Or parked inside and never driven! Nobody - not Mercedes, not BMW, nobody warrants their sheet metal beyond 6 or 8 years.

In the north-eastern States, Ontario and Quebec it is worse, due to our damp winters and the tons of salt the municipalities dump on the roads.

The Aerostars I've seen around here had serious rust issues almost from the outset.

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I have seen lots of rusty Ford F-series - especially the bumpers and tailgates.

Newer ones? 97-03? 96-back?

I know the pre-97 ones rust pretty quick...

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Newer ones? 97-03? 96-back?

I know the pre-97 ones rust pretty quick...

Mostly the older ones (that bodystyle). They seemed to rust very quickly.

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Mostly the older ones (that bodystyle). They seemed to rust very quickly.

Yeah..I've seen a lot of rusty F-series when I'm in Ohio..and the Rangers..the old Rangers rusted like crazy...Fox Mustangs were known for rusting decklid/hatch edges, doors...haven't noticed any of the SN95 ('94-04) era cars with rust, though...

I saw a first-gen Taurus when I was in Cleveland last year that was the rustiest Taurus I've ever seen... rust holes around the door handles, rust all over the doors, fenders, quarters, 1/2 inch or more of the decklid bottom edge missing, etc..

Rust is such a rare sight here, even surface rust..faded or peeling paint I see occasionally, but the only rusty vehicles I see are probably from out of state like my Bronco was (I brought it to Colorado with 9 years of Ohio/Michigan/Illinois rust).

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I live in the snow belt, we use salt in the winter and it eats away at cars...the Shadow has tons of rust along the lower body, and a rust hole in the driver's side foot well.

First gen Caravans, and to a lesser extent, 2nd gen Caravans are notorious for rusting on teh rear hatch where the lower window seals are...I don't know why. Oddly, our `86 never rusted there. It did however, rust on the sliding door, driver's door, passenger door, and where the rocker panel meets the rear wheel well on the driver's side...currently it's the only rust spot now. Water apparently collects there and doesn't drain out properly...which is why it rusted there.

I notice only small rust spots on the 3rd generations vans for the most part...probably paint imperfections. Most (that haven't been in accidents) hold up pretty well. A friend of our family has an `03...it has rust on it where it was damaged and they never bothered to repair it...not the van's fault. However there is a paint blister on the left corner of the hood...I suspect it will start to rust.

My car has a rust spot in a strange place...on the driver;s door frame at the top (not the roof itself). I plan to fit it this summer...it's only surface rust...I have no idea why it's there of all places, but it'll be fixed before it can spread.

I've seen some badly rusted Chevy Ventures...worse rust than older Caravans..one was white, and had a rust hole bigger than my hand along the lower rocker panel on the driver's side.

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I live in the snow belt, we use salt in the winter and it eats away at cars...the Shadow has tons of rust along the lower body, and a rust hole in the driver's side foot well.

First gen Caravans, and to a lesser extent, 2nd gen Caravans are notorious for rusting on teh rear hatch where the lower window seals are...I don't know why. Oddly, our `86 never rusted there. It did however, rust on the sliding door, driver's door, passenger door, and where the rocker panel meets the rear wheel well on the driver's side...currently it's the only rust spot now. Water apparently collects there and doesn't drain out properly...which is why it rusted there.

I notice only small rust spots on the 3rd generations vans for the most part...probably paint imperfections. Most (that haven't been in accidents) hold up pretty well. A friend of our family has an `03...it has rust on it where it was damaged and they never bothered to repair it...not the van's fault. However there is a paint blister on the left corner of the hood...I suspect it will start to rust.

My car has a rust spot in a strange place...on the driver;s door frame at the top (not the roof itself). I plan to fit it this summer...it's only surface rust...I have no idea why it's there of all places, but it'll be fixed before it can spread.

I've seen some badly rusted Chevy Ventures...worse rust than older Caravans..one was white, and had a rust hole bigger than my hand along the lower rocker panel on the driver's side.

That's strange-but interesting-I've seen paint issues on the 97+ vans...I wonder if that could be one of the main reasons why they rust so much....

It's interesting you say Ventures rust bad- I think I've seen just a few Ventures with any rust on them-usually on the slidling door. Even the dustbuster vans seem to say mostly rust free...

Older Ford Vans seem to get rusty too-but the ones from 01 up seem to be ok (knock on metal)

On the other hand, I've seen all gens of Tarurs rusting-I guess they should be happy they keep running...

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80s J-bodies and A-bodies can be found in rusting abundance where I live; they easily take the cake for the worst rusting cars I see on the road on a regular basis. That Celebrity I posted a while back was the first time in my life I have ever seen an A-body from before 1989 without any rust. I can't even remember the last time I saw a Pontiac 6000 on the road.

I've noticed that '83-'88 Thunderbirds and Cougars haven't held up throughout the last couple decades (whereas Lincoln Mark VII's usually still look pretty sharp). All the T-birds and Cougars I see usually aren't rusty, but the paint is badly faded and the bumpers usually have paint chips showing ugly yellow beneath them...and there's usually some serious bumper sag going on.

G-body Cutlasses, Regals, Montes, and Grand Prix's tend to have bad issues with rust along the rocker panel that travels up into the door...which is unfortunate because they are some of my favorites.

Toyota Tercels and Corollas get bad rust around the wheel wells....sometimes to the point where you could almost run your hand in a 90 degree arc between the rust. The paint fades badly as well...I don't think I've ever seen a Tercel from the early 90s with nice paint.

Various Dodges, Plymouths, Chryslers, and Eagles from the 90s have extensive problems with paint peeling that leads to rust (especially on hoods and roofs). I see early 90s Grand Caravans and Intrepids driving around with huge swatches of primer because all the paint has peeled away...my buddy's '95 Intrepid is rusting on the roof after years of the paint peeling off. The same thing is happening with my other buddy's '97 Eagle Vision.

Chevy also has problems with WHITE 2nd-gen Luminas that have whole chunks of paint peel off down to the primer. I see it all the time...and it only happens on white ones. All over the doors, hood, roof, and trunk you can find this problem.

Taurus's and Sables pre-1990 generally haven't held up well. Most are beat up with faded paint and rust. Later generations are faring much better.

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The Dodge Spirits had paint pealing issues, and Shadows have rust issues underneath of the hatch...water seems to collect there. First gen LH cars seem to hold up well in my area...most are rust free with decent paint.

Late 80's Accords rust and fade pretty bade, as do the era Corolla and Camry. Tercels look OK from what I've seen. Lots of broken door handles on 90's Corollas, Prizms, and Camrys.

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When was the last time anyone saw an AeroStar? :P

This Morning.... :AH-HA_wink:

It was red..I think it was red...too rusty to know for sure...

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80s J-bodies and A-bodies can be found in rusting abundance where I live; they easily take the cake for the worst rusting cars I see on the road on a regular basis. That Celebrity I posted a while back was the first time in my life I have ever seen an A-body from before 1989 without any rust. I can't even remember the last time I saw a Pontiac 6000 on the road.

I've noticed that '83-'88 Thunderbirds and Cougars haven't held up throughout the last couple decades (whereas Lincoln Mark VII's usually still look pretty sharp). All the T-birds and Cougars I see usually aren't rusty, but the paint is badly faded and the bumpers usually have paint chips showing ugly yellow beneath them...and there's usually some serious bumper sag going on.

G-body Cutlasses, Regals, Montes, and Grand Prix's tend to have bad issues with rust along the rocker panel that travels up into the door...which is unfortunate because they are some of my favorites.

Toyota Tercels and Corollas get bad rust around the wheel wells....sometimes to the point where you could almost run your hand in a 90 degree arc between the rust. The paint fades badly as well...I don't think I've ever seen a Tercel from the early 90s with nice paint.

Various Dodges, Plymouths, Chryslers, and Eagles from the 90s have extensive problems with paint peeling that leads to rust (especially on hoods and roofs). I see early 90s Grand Caravans and Intrepids driving around with huge swatches of primer because all the paint has peeled away...my buddy's '95 Intrepid is rusting on the roof after years of the paint peeling off. The same thing is happening with my other buddy's '97 Eagle Vision.

Chevy also has problems with WHITE 2nd-gen Luminas that have whole chunks of paint peel off down to the primer. I see it all the time...and it only happens on white ones. All over the doors, hood, roof, and trunk you can find this problem.

Taurus's and Sables pre-1990 generally haven't held up well. Most are beat up with faded paint and rust. Later generations are faring much better.

There's very few A bodies around here...

My 80s J-body was pretty rust free until it got hit....

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Neon - King of peeling paint (especially those purple ones)

This thread makes me all the more amazed that my wagon is almost rust free after 30 years in New Jersey. That shouldn't happen, but I'm very glad it did.

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When was the last time anyone saw an AeroStar? :P

I'm looking out at my neighbors as I type this, an 85 and its very rusty. I haven't noticed newer Caravans with rust issues but now I'm going to look for it. I know all the early 90's models rusted below the back window on the liftgate.
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Neon - King of peeling paint (especially those purple ones)

This thread makes me all the more amazed that my wagon is almost rust free after 30 years in New Jersey. That shouldn't happen, but I'm very glad it did.

I was surprised our 95 Neon's paint never cam off...maybe because I waxed it? :scratchchin:

But it rusted pretty well though..

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