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Kowalski test drove one recently too.... :P

Here's my photos of the first & fourth Challenger I've seen in the flesh.

(or as Balthy would say: "in the steel")

This one was on the back of a car carrier being pulled by a Peterbilt 379.

About 15min. & 5 miles before I saw the MB 500SEC for the 1st time.

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And here's the Orange one that I see ALL over Lowell.

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Looks great..I only saw the orange one at the Denver auto show back March. I have yet to see one on the road or in a lot. I want a white one w/ Colorado plates. I love the styling...retro yet modern..stands out in a world of FWD generics.

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For you GM/Pontiac/Zeta fans here's a G8, registered & apparently daily driven. :)

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For you GM/Pontiac/Zeta fans here's a G8, registered & apparently daily driven. :)

Shweet...I've only seen 3 so far on the road--two in Colorado and one in Miami...none out here in the desert horror yet.

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AH-nold is no pu$$y!

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that car is bad-ass!

Why THANKYOU!

I love the Mercedes HARDTOP, the Challenger would be quite

cool if only it was a hardtop too instead of a mere 2dr sedan.

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my neighbor just got an orange one... its not terrible.. but it just screams "IM HEAVY AS SIN" when you look at it :P

Well, it is a big, heavy car...the fatness is part of it's Americanness.....this is the land of the Big Mac, Lard Lad, supersize everything, childhood obesity, and 6000lb SUVs..so our sports coupes should be over 4000lbs. :)

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Well, it is a big, heavy car...the fatness is part of it's Americanness.....this is the land of the Big Mac, Lard Lad, supersize everything, childhood obesity, and 6000lb SUVs..so our sports coupes should be over 4000lbs. :)

It's a Muscle car, not a Pony car. The original one was even closer to a Pony car (but not quite) than this one is.

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It's a Muscle car, not a Pony car. The original one was even closer to a Pony car (but not quite) than this one is.

Yeah, it's a performance car... I tend to avoid the old timey terms like 'muscle car' and 'pony car'...not really relevant today.

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Yeah, it's a performance car... I tend to avoid the old timey terms like 'muscle car' and 'pony car'...not really relevant today.

Yup, too many people trying to categorize today's cars with yesterday's terminology IMO too...

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LOL

We musta grown up on different sides of town.........

:AH-HA_wink:

I love those '80s SECs...I was a teenager in the mid '80s, and the S-class coupe and sedan were some of the cars I lusted after...

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I love those '80s SECs...I was a teenager in the mid '80s, and the S-class coupe and sedan were some of the cars I lusted after...

I like some of the AMG stuff, and the new aero styled sedans, but the old Mercedes stuff never did much for me at all.

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Some of my favorite Benzes are the '60s-early '70s S-class coupes and convertibles, the SLs, the '50s Gullwing SLs, and the '70s 6.3 and 6.9 supersedans. I remember when I was in 2nd grade I had a teacher that had a '63 SE coupe (similar to the pic below). In Podunk, Ohio in the late '70s this car really stood out...I feel in love with the design. My family doctor had a '79 450SEL 6.9, I remember that making an impression on me also.

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Some of my favorite Benzes are the '60s-early '70s S-class coupes and convertibles, the SLs, the '50s Gullwing SLs, and the '70s 6.3 and 6.9 supersedans. I remember when I was in 2nd grade I had a teacher that had a '63 SE coupe (similar to the pic below). In Podunk, Ohio in the late '70s this car really stood out...I feel in love with the design. My family doctor had a '79 450SEL 6.9, I remember that making an impression on me also.

The 6.9s made an impression on me when they came out, but for performance, not looks!

Gullwings were nice cars, but styling wise I like alot of other manufacturers than Mercedes, they were sort of like a Volvo to me over the years, it didn't matter how nice the car was or how good the engineering was, they were too bland for my taste.

*shrugs*

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Strangely I don't think he was referring to the 25 year old blandmobile....

:AH-HA_wink:

LOL

1. I know, it's called sarcasm

2. This car cost $57,000+ in 1984, it's a GERMAN spec.

gray market import and it's both V8 powered & RWD

noty to mention a pillarless hardtop...

BLAND? what do YOU drive again? :huh:

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I've actually been thinking the 6.9 V8

conversion would be a fun way to

keep the car 100% MB while making

a sick sleeper/custom.

But if i ever replace the 5.0 SOHV in

the MB it will most likely be an iron

block 350 Chevy & mated to a 4-spd

manual for the ultimate bizzaro

world muscle car.

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I've actually been thinking the 6.9 V8

conversion would be a fun way to

keep the car 100% MB while making

a sick sleeper/custom.

But if i ever replace the 5.0 SOHV in

the MB it will most likely be an iron

block 350 Chevy & mated to a 4-spd

manual for the ultimate bizzaro

world muscle car.

Ugh...a Chevy engine in a Merc? Sacreledge... a modern AMG V8 would be a cool swap, but obviously would be $$$.

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Yeah... instead of dropping like $10,000-15,000?

to aquire, remove & install an AMG V8 I'd rather

spend $2000 on a rebuild or junkyard motor &

use the remaing money to buy one of these:

(an even cooler hardtop than the 500SEC)

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Yeah... instead of dropping like $10,000-15,000?

to aquire, remove & install an AMG V8 I'd rather

spend $2000 on a rebuild or junkyard motor &

use the remaing money to buy one of these:

I love those '61 CDVs with the thin C-pillars..

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I love those '61 CDVs with the thin C-pillars..

Yup... by far my favorite post-war Cadillac. Very underrated imo.

'62s are nice as well but just not the same.

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Yeah... instead of dropping like $10,000-15,000?

to aquire, remove & install an AMG V8 I'd rather

spend $2000 on a rebuild or junkyard motor &

use the remaing money to buy one of these:

I like the 59 and 60 Caddies, and the 61 is nice. We cruised one in the late 80's, it was fairly mint and cost $3000 Canadian, couldn't pass it up.

A small block Chevy conversion in a vintage Caddy is a definite no-no, it's like tossing a 5.0 liter Ford engine into a Duesenberg, or a 360 crate engine into a Tucker... on a smaller scale.

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But if i ever replace the 5.0 SOHV in

the MB it will most likely be an iron

block 350 Chevy & mated to a 4-spd

manual for the ultimate bizzaro

world muscle car.

Try an Iso or a hybrid or two, you don't need to chop up a Mercedes looking for an import with a SBC, not IMO anyways. I would much rather an AMG transplant, you could actually sell it down the road..?

I did like the little Scarab Datsun Z cars....

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I saw a Challenger today. It was pretty much a "meh" experience. It looks the same in person as it does in pictures. Kinda like Kirstie Alley in a pumpkin Halloween costume. Not my cup 'o tea.

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I saw a Challenger today. It was pretty much a "meh" experience. It looks the same in person as it does in pictures. Kinda like Kirstie Alley in a pumpkin Halloween costume. Not my cup 'o tea.

The Challenger and the Camaro are both going to be bigger than the Challenger and Camaro guys hoped for, but they will still be nice cars.

On the flip side is the Mustang, which is smaller, but guys who sit in the interior will be looking out of the Mustang at the Challenger and Camaro guys with envy in their eyes....

:AH-HA_wink:

LOL

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Yep, and I'll be watching Challenger and Camaro guys at the gas pump while driving by in the Prius. Or I'll watch the Challenger and Camaro guys who do stuff scratch up their cars while I'm throwing my bike and kayak into the old wagon.

Funny that you mention the Mustang, because its the only one of the three to have an uninterrupted life. While the Mustang has never been a great car, its always been better, in one aspect or another, than its competition. Thats why it sells better, and why Mustang fans could buy a new one at times when Chevy and Dodge guys couldn't.

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Funny that you mention the Mustang, because its the only one of the three to have an uninterrupted life. While the Mustang has never been a great car, its always been better, in one aspect or another, than its competition. Thats why it sells better, and why Mustang fans could buy a new one at times when Chevy and Dodge guys couldn't.

Cheap bang for the buck performance in an attractive package. It's lighter weight, built cheaper, and it will most likely always sell more.

Mustangs have been unbeatable for years as far as bang for the buck, and neither the Challenger nor the Camaro will change that in the next few years I bet...?

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Nothing anywhere near that bland.

Yes, that's an honest answer.

So tell us already? If you want to be an adult spill the beans,

otherwise you're at an unfari advantage don;t you think?

You want to poke fun at a car that cost twice what a

Corvette did in 1984 and was rivaled by only a few exotics in

terms of smooth top speed ability?

But you do not want to disclose your ride...?

this would be like the old argument in 1st grade:

"my dad is bigger & stronger than yours!" :rolleyes:

Even if your daily driver is more exciting than the Mercedes I'm willing

to bet it cost a LOT more than the $1460 I paid for my hardtop....

and in any case I seriously doubt your ride makes people rubberneck

like my '59 Buick... but that's neither here nor there. :AH-HA_wink:

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I think he mentioned owning a Magnum in one thread or another. That would explain why he's always trying to get into bitch fights with anyone who doesn't like Chrysler.

Actually if you ever actually READ what I post, it's my WIFE's Magnum. Not mine.

And usually the "bitch fights" are with the ignorant posts, there are lots of guys out there who "don't like Chryslers", some of my best friends being among them. Cars are cars, who cares what certain people like and dislike?

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So tell us already? If you want to be an adult spill the beans,

otherwise you're at an unfari advantage don;t you think?

You want to poke fun at a car that cost twice what a

Corvette did in 1984 and was rivaled by only a few exotics in

terms of smooth top speed ability?

But you do not want to disclose your ride...?

this would be like the old argument in 1st grade:

"my dad is bigger & stronger than yours!" :rolleyes:

Even if your daily driver is more exciting than the Mercedes I'm willing

to bet it cost a LOT more than the $1460 I paid for my hardtop....

and in any case I seriously doubt your ride makes people rubberneck

like my '59 Buick... but that's neither here nor there. :AH-HA_wink:

LOL

I'm not sure I'M the one with the "my Dad is bigger than yours" mentality... LOL Read your post?

Take a boo in the Project Chronicles, the last car I bought for a driver/ parts chaser is in there. It's not the best car in the world, it isn't superior in any way shape or form over what somebody else likes, but it ISN'T bland...

;)

Like I said, I've had lots of cars, still do- that are of every description. Bland USUALLY isn't one of them....

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OK, I saved you some work. Like I said in the other thread, my buddies don't refer to this car of mine as "bland", they refer to it as UGLY! LOL

I think it cost 3 times what a new Corvette cost when it was new, not sure how relating to new Corvette prices matter, but....

My latest driver.

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And one more..... I once owned this 1966 Belvedere 2 door sedan, it is an original 426 Hemi/ auto car.

It's a nice car, it's desirable, it's very fast for it's time, but IMO it is a BLAND looking car...?

Not meant as an "insult", just an observation.

Tell me if I'm wrong?

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Yup... nothing wrong with a '66 Belvedere 2dr post but it is

basically a factory version of a stripped out Cobalt with a

Z06 drivetrain. (FWD/RWD aside)

Now since when is the Jensen,

(which slipped my mind to be honesy)

a daily driver...? I thought it was a project car you just

piced up? I'm 99% certain that there's a cookie cutter

car you plant your ass in everyday... a four door post

something-or-other with a modern V6 or what not, or

is the Jensen REALLY your grocery getter? :blink:

NO ofense taken as far as the Benz, just having fun

same as you but I'm just perplexed at why it would be

considered bland and in what context...

RWD + V8 + conservative styling + pillarless HARDTOP bodysyle =/= bland.

Even a cheap, rusted '74 Celica hardtop with only a 4-banger

and RWD & 99% unoriginal styling is not bland in a world of

Accords & Camrys.

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I think we equate "bland" with different things....

To me a sleeper is a bland looking car that outperforms it's looks. A stiock Chevy II would be "bland" to me, or a stock Valiant.

I find bland to be something that can blend in with the crowd of cars, it doesn't mean "ugly". Not the way I see it anyways.

The Jensen is up and running, as soon as I get four switches it WILL be my daily driver/parts chaser. It's not terribly fast- my wife's Magnum R/T will probably beat it in the 1/4 mile, but I don't care...?

My daily driver from 1991 until 2000 was this car, it was driven in the rain/sleet/snow, parked outside 24/7/365, and my wife DID buy groceries in it, many a time..... I drove it in the snow!

To be honest it wasn't one of my favorite cars, I like older stuff much better. I like 59 Buicks more.

*shrugs*

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NO ofense taken as far as the Benz, just having fun

same as you but I'm just perplexed at why it would be

considered bland and in what context...

RWD + V8 + conservative styling + pillarless HARDTOP bodysyle =/= bland.

A-HA!!!!!!

Conservative styling! That's what I consider as a "bland car".

I like many cars I would consider "bland cars" btw... the Hemi car being an example I thought might make sense...?

Many of my cars haven't been "conservative" at all, but that doesn't mean people think they are GOOD looking.... they just don't blend in with the pack...

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haha

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Here's the most conservative vehicle I presently own, and second to newest too...... It's a built small block with a .485" hydraulic roller, ported 2.02/1.60 heads, M1 intake, Edelbrock carb, headers, 3" Flowmaster 50 series, and a 4.10 rear..... it moves preetttttty good for something with a kitchen in it.... LOL

It can bunny hop the wheels well over a foot off the ground with ease.

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Cool RV...that reminds me of a '73 Mobile Traveler 21 foot motorhome w/ a Dodge cab my folks had when I was a kid. Had a 318 that liked to stall a lot. Our second RV was a 25 foot Southwind Class A, it had a 440.

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Cool RV...that reminds me of a '73 Mobile Traveler 21 foot motorhome w/ a Dodge cab my folks had when I was a kid. Had a 318 that liked to stall a lot. Our second RV was a 25 foot Southwind Class A, it had a 440.

Have you ever heard of an FMC motorhome? I have ALWAYS wanted one, but never found one that I could afford at the moment they popped up.... one day I hope... they were 440 pushers!

Here's the one behind the fence in the above pic.... I sold it a couple of years ago though... my wife was choked I had TWO motorhomes, as she would say. :(

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Have you ever heard of an FMC motorhome? I have ALWAYS wanted one, but never found one that I could afford at the moment they popped up.... one day I hope... they were 440 pushers!

Here's the one behind the fence in the above pic.... I sold it a couple of years ago though... my wife was choked I had TWO motorhomes, as she would say. :(

Oh, yeah..I remember those... I was into motorhomes from about 1978-1988...we had a subscription to a magazine that was like Motor Trend but for motorhomes..stayed at many a KOA and Good Sam park..some of my favorites from the '80s were the Holiday Rambler Ambassadors and the Appolo Sceptre--very sleek. After the Southwind, my folks had a Pace Arrow 28 ft and a Winnebago Chieftain, 33 ft, both with Chevy 454s. I learned to drive the Winnebago, it was a challenge as a teenager to back a 33ft RV in and out of the barn, and pull it up to gas pumps at a gas station with a Ford Escort towed on the back.

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I learned to drive the Winnebago, it was a challenge as a teenager to back a 33ft RV in and out of the barn, and pull it up to gas pumps at a gas station with a Ford Escort towed on the back.

Holy KRAP!

I know adults who can't/won't drive a motorhome over 24 feet! Forget towing anything..... LOL

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Holy KRAP!

I know adults who can't/won't drive a motorhome over 24 feet! Forget towing anything..... LOL

Yeah, it was a fun thing to drive..we had to carefully pick the gas stations to pull into...a few times, had to disconnect the car to make turns. Pull in, fill up 3 gas tanks with about 200 gallons of regular, then back on the freeway, getting about 5-6 mpg.

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As Fly once said.... Czech mate! :P

My hat is off to you CMG!

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Thank you sir.

I always say, and I'm 100% certain about this:

The '59 Buick dash is THE nicest of ANY post-WWII car. 8)

There's a few Caillacs & Chryslers/Imperials that come

close but as far as production cars go the B-59 is it IMO.

I miss driving the B59, I need to git my ass in gear &

get the motor back together... I was just thinking this

AM at like 4:15, as I loaded package 75 out of 1050

that I should set a realistic goal to get the B-59 back

on the road.... right now the pie in the sky date is

Halloween but there's a god chance I'll be out there

in my driveway Christmas day, still turning wrenches.

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BTW- one of my all time favorite pics on this site EVER.....

Now THIS is the kind of pic I call PERSONALITY.

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Yep, that Buick's IP is beautiful. I have a photo of it I took for one of my Photography classes:

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CMG, you have a pretty insane collection of vehicles, that most normal thing you guys have is that Magnum! :P

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Hahahah... yeah that's right... you took like a hundred photos that day.

I even parked the car in the "horse-port" at the 4H. :P

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I built this for the street dargs many moons ago, it was just about to be tubbed- the 440 was all built and the car was no longer a 4 door.... ;) LOL and somebody STOLE the body!

Where it is I have no idea, but if it ever shows up it's gotta be the only shortened Plymouth Viscount on the planet- it was a 1959 Dodge front end with a 1959 Plymouth rear end....

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So I hereby move to make CMG the official

"MOPAR-GRAND-WIZZARD-ULTRA" of the

Tight Whips car club... CMG, seriously, you

caught me on a bad day and I assumed that

you, like most of the people on here, drive

something that YOU consider exciting but

would blend in at the local Wal*Mart parking

lot on Senior Citizen Discount day...

I now feel I must apologize, for with the

vehicles you have owned/built, even if we

divide & multiply by the square root of that

Mitsu-Mopar Colt "By Dodge" you have an

amazing vehicular portfolio.

Kowing what I know now, you can call my

Mercedes "bland" anyday! :)

You are , for sure, one of the ELITE of the

C&G crowd; my Canada is off to you, sir!

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P.S. if you ever find that (now sold?) '59 Ply-odge I will

trade you straight up for my 500SEC.

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So I hereby move to make CMG the official

"MOPAR-GRAND-WIZZARD-ULTRA" of the

Tight Whips car club... CMG, seriously, you

caught me on a bad day and I assumed that

you, like most of the people on here, drive

something that YOU consider exciting but

would blend in at the local Wal*Mart parking

lot on Senior Citizen Discount day...

I now feel I must apologize, for with the

vehicles you have owned/built, even if we

divide & multiply by the square root of that

Mitsu-Mopar Colt "By Dodge" you have an

amazing vehicular portfolio.

Kowing what I know now, you can call my

Mercedes "bland" anyday! :)

You are , for sure, one of the ELITE of the

C&G crowd; my Canada is off to you, sir!

Hahaha!!!!

Thanks Sixty8Panther, but I shoulda used a different word than "bland".

I got some real weirdo ride pics too... I'll have to dig some out. Alot of my stuff isn't mainstream, and some of my stuff that I have LOVED my friends have hated... LOL

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What kind of a dirty scumbag steals THAT!?

If I ever WAS dumb enough to steal (cars)

I would not steal something that you could

never in a million years, with any amount of

bulls#iting pass off as NOT stolen.

Seriously what was his game plan, to tell the

cops that it was "another Dodge-Plymouth"

splice job & they're confused?

"no, really... it's factory, really!"

I hope that @$#% person gets ebola, to steal an

insured yuppie-whip like a Bimmer or Lexus is

one thing, but you do not, EVER even think about

leaning up on the 1/4 panel of a Hot Rodder's

custom/chopped car, stealing it is just a whole

'nother level of wrong!

Stealing this kind of custom should be punishable

by beheading.

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Here's one of mine that was FAST, it looked nice, but it was a purpose built pounder, one ride inside and it was obvious that it wasn't a Lexus.... LOL

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This is awesome-here in central Ohio, we have a guy named Farmer who has one of these that's an original factory Hemi car.

IIRC he nostalgia drag races it fairly regularly.

Chris

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How are you gonna trade your wife's car? :huh:

I drive it 40% of the time.... and the title is in my name,

plus recently she's been on a BMW 5-series wagon kick.

...not that i was dead serious.

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CMG:

what in god's name is that mercury-mopar enclosed-towncar-panel-hatch thing?

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CMG:

what in god's name is that mercury-mopar enclosed-towncar-panel-hatch thing?

Hahaha

My friends were MAD when I was trying to buy it, so I never did!

A guy I know paid $8500 for the car and then when many years passed he wanted to sell it minus the engine and transmission.

It's an old Chrysler 4 door sedan that was shortened, the front end was dropped and slant sectioned, and the roof was moved rearward over the trunk area.

It had a chopped wrap around bumper with eight rectangular headlights!

LOL

I wanted to wear "pimp" clothing and go street racing in it, my buddies actually got MAD at me! LOL

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Hahaha

My friends were MAD when I was trying to buy it, so I never did!

A guy I know paid $8500 for the car and then when many years passed he wanted to sell it minus the engine and transmission.

It's an old Chrysler 4 door sedan that was shortened, the front end was dropped and slant sectioned, and the roof was moved rearward over the trunk area.

It had a chopped wrap around bumper with eight rectangular headlights!

LOL

I wanted to wear "pimp" clothing and go street racing in it, my buddies actually got MAD at me! LOL

Trippy.... I saw a lot of strange 'Keys Cruisers' when I lived in the Florida Keys---like a mid '70s Mercury Grand Marquis 4dr convertible, a '72 Ford Torino flatbed convertible wagon, a '76 Granada 4dr convertible with the door frames still attached (a buddy in high school drove this), a '76 Trans Am 4x4 convertible, but never anything like that...

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Trippy.... I saw a lot of strange 'Keys Cruisers' when I lived in the Florida Keys---like a mid '70s Mercury Grand Marquis 4dr convertible, a '72 Ford Torino flatbed convertible wagon, a '76 Granada 4dr convertible with the door frames still attached (a buddy in high school drove this), a '76 Trans Am 4x4 convertible, but never anything like that...

Dear lord. That's both horrific (by 2008 standards) and funny as

$hit, (by "back in the day those were just used cars" standards)

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Dear lord. That's both horrific (by 2008 standards) and funny as

$hit, (by "back in the day those were just used cars" standards)

Yea...that was in the '80s.... didn't see anything that fit the old 'Keys Cruiser' standards when I was down there last month. Because of the salt air and humidity, cars rusted as bad in the Keys as they did in the Rust Belt.

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no doubt.... salt (sea) air is brutal.

My buddy's (co-worker's) car that he brought up from

Florida... (1994-ish Buick Century) had such bad rot

in the A-pillars that there were holes in them, and yet

the paint was flawless and the car was otherwise in

great shape, not even high milage, it was parked next

to the beach all its life.

One of the reasons I passed on a somewhat "cheap"

& very tempting '71 Monte Carlo that lived up at

Hampton Beach all of its life, it was a tripple-black SS,

as in 4-to-da-5-to-da-4! The owner advertised it as

minimal rust... the only thing that was "minimal"

about the rust was the amount of metal that was NOT

rusted through on the undercarriage & suspension...

frame was decent but scaby. :(

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