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http://hothardware.com/News/Texting-Teen-T...s-Down-Manhole/

In a development that's almost too silly to be true, a New York City teenage girl evidently fell down an open manhole as she walked down the street, distracted because she was...texting. MyFOX NY reports Alexa Longueira was strolling down a Staten Island sidewalk and was fiddling with her phone, preparing to send a text, when she disappeared down an open sewer access duct.

Longueira is said to have suffered mild cuts and bruises, but she should be just fine. Workers told the girl's mother they left the manhole open and unattended for mere seconds as they went to grab some pylons from their trucks. The Department of Environmental Protection announced an investigation.

Mercedes Padilla, of the DEP, was quoted as saying: "DEP is conducting a full investigation of what happened during a manhole incident on Victory Boulevard where workers were flushing a high-pressure sewer on Wednesday evening. We regret that this happened and wish the young woman a speedy recovery."

In an astonishing (not) twist, the family plans to sue. Apparently it doesn't matter that the girl was texting and not paying attention to her surroundings; the dangerous duct should have been covered.

The moral of the story? Look where you're going, dummy!

*Video in the link

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:rolleyes:
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Damnit! I mean, really, she'll win her case because the pylons are supposed to be in place 'before' work commences. Regardless of the fact that she's too stupid to do anything while walking at the same time. Yet, another excuse to hate stupid people.

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Sorry, but whether or not she was texting is irrelevant. Manhole covers should be secured, or they should be marked and/or attended while unsecured.

Would it be any different if, instead of a texting teen, she were a blind person?

NO!

This is negligence on the city's part. Someone should have been attending it for the "mere seconds" it took to get the cones...or better yet, the cones should have been around before they even opened the cover up.

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Croc, I hope you never buy coffee at McDonald's.
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Croc, I hope you never buy coffee at McDonald's.

I was expecting you to make a "manhole" joke at his expense.

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I must be slipping. I guess my bemusement over this whole stupid episode overshadowed my typical C&G response. But get real, what kind of utter moron walks into open manholes? If it had been a tree in front of her dumb ass and she walked into it, who would she have sued then, the Parks Dep't or something? GIVE ME A BREAK, for crying out loud!
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I agree with Croc. The family doesn't deserve millions or anything stupid like that, but the city sure needs to pay for all medical bills, a new outfit, and a *small* compensatory amount for the trouble they caused. Cones should've been in place, or one worker stay by the hole while the other gets cones. Sure the girl is ditzy, but it was negligent on the city workers' behalf.

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Sure the city should have placed cones before-hand, but I do hope the judge does remind her that she is indeed a total moron.

I'd hate to know if she texts at the wheel.

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I agree with Croc. The family doesn't deserve millions or anything stupid like that, but the city sure needs to pay for all medical bills, a new outfit, and a *small* compensatory amount for the trouble they caused. Cones should've been in place, or one worker stay by the hole while the other gets cones. Sure the girl is ditzy, but it was negligent on the city workers' behalf.

Exactly.

Legally, it comes down to responsibility and expectations: what is the expectation that you are walking down the street and there is a hole in the sidewalk? Next to none. For a city agency to knowingly create an unexpected, hazardous condition, and not provide warning/notification...that's just negligent.

Also, if the manhole was uncovered for "mere seconds" before they did get the cones, you're telling me they couldn't have seen the girl walking down the street and verbally warned her? Because I can't imagine a teen girl on her phone powerwalking onto the scene (AFTER they left a cover open on a deserted street), falling down and hurting herself, all in "mere seconds."

Someone's fibbing, and I doubt it's the injured party.

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Croc, I hope you never buy coffee at McDonald's.

I don't eat at McDonald's.

But if they ever served me something unsafe, damn right I'd sue.

You always bring this case up, and like the rest of America you seem willfully ignorant of the facts. The only reason the woman won was because it was served to her at an unbelievably unsafe temperature...one that would cause 2nd degree burns on contact. McDonald's also intentionally served the coffee so hot in an attempt to cover up the inferior quality of the coffee. This was documented in company memos. Also, by serving coffee this scaldingly hot, they were endangering customers and employees in the event of a spill.

Coffee should be served warm, not so scaldingly hot that it leaves 2nd degree burns on immediate contact.

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Oh please, she could have come around from behind their truck, or around a street corner. Do you look where you're going when you walk, or do you just put one foot in front of the other and close your eyes? How can you justify this stupidity?
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Oh please, she could have come around from behind their truck, or around a street corner. Do you look where you're going when you walk, or do you just put one foot in front of the other and close your eyes? How can you justify this stupidity?

The standard pedestrian walking rate is 4 feet per second (this is the rate used for determining crosswalk timer lengths). Obviously, this would be slower when text messaging, so let's say it's 3 feet per second in this case.

How do you define "mere seconds"? I'll use a conservative estimate of 10 seconds, that these workers were otherwise on-point, dilligent workers who literally turned their backs for just a matter of seconds.

So, by the calculations, she was within 30 feet away. And they didn't see/warn her?

You say she may have just come from around their truck...nowhere does it say she was walking in the street, and why would she? That's a stretch. But, she may have come around a corner, which actually places MORE blame on the negligent workers. If the manhole were located close to a corner, even with big orange cones and barricades, many pedestrians would be startled and in danger of falling in due to the blind spot. So having a completely unattended, uncovered manhole cover right around a corner...just stupid.

Now ocn, unless you really don't get out much, when you walk down the street, you glance around at people, at billboards, maybe receive an email or phone call, and YOU KEEP WALKING. Eyes are open, but worst case scenario, you maybe laugh at yourself for tripping on the raised edge of an uneven sidewalk you didn't see. You're not expecting open trenches/holes in the middle of the sidewalk.

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No one here has ever had a clumsy moment where you were walking and paying attention to something else, or looked behind you,then turned around and there's an object right in front of you? I'm sure it's happened to every one of us at one point in our lives. I've almost done it before, and I am always very aware of my surroundings.

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I must be slipping. I guess my bemusement over this whole stupid episode overshadowed my typical C&G response. But get real, what kind of utter moron walks into open manholes? If it had been a tree in front of her dumb ass and she walked into it, who would she have sued then, the Parks Dep't or something? GIVE ME A BREAK, for crying out loud!

You are slipping. What kind of person walks into an open manhole? Someone who does not see it and does not expect it. Whether BLIND (the walking stick mainly checks for raised elevations, and may or may not be effective at noticing an open hole), or distracted, or just walking around a corner and having no time to react to the presence of something unexpected, the area should have been cordoned off, posted, and monitored.

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I guess I was just raised to watch where I'm walking. Maybe I'm old-school. Maybe society should not expect people to be able to take care of themselves while they are walking. Texting is certainly more important than making sure a person doesn't injure themselves. Technology trumps common sense. My bad. Sorry. (holy $h!):rolleyes:
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No one here has ever had a clumsy moment where you were walking and paying attention to something else, or looked behind you,then turned around and there's an object right in front of you? I'm sure it's happened to every one of us at one point in our lives. I've almost done it before, and I am always very aware of my surroundings.

Of course. This is just common sense.

Blu and others just seem to want to make a soap box case against wild, out-of-control, ditzy, texting teen girls...do they dress too sexy? Maybe this should be a Jenny Jones segment...Equally devoid of logic and reasoning...

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...and don't assume you know my angle of approach. It is basic common sense to look where you're going when you're walking. Manholes are in the streets. Are you trying to say that a person does not need to LOOK AROUND before walking into the street? Whatever the gender or age of this person... walking into the street unaware is not a smart thing to do, dammit. A person should NOT be distracted by any other thing when walking into the street! Edited by ocnblu
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The telling aspect of this will be the amount demanded by the suit.

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...and don't assume you know my angle of approach. It is basic common sense to look where you're going when you're walking. Manholes are in the streets. Are you trying to say that a person does not need to LOOK AROUND before walking into the street? Whatever the gender or age of this person... walking into the street unaware is not a smart thing to do, dammit. A person should NOT be distracted by any other thing when walking into the street!

There are plenty of manhole covers on the sidewalk. In Indiana, Los Angeles, New York, or any other place I have been to. See, storm water sewers are generally located in the curbs, and their access is nearby, usually on the sidewalk.

Having an open manhole cover in the street is even more egregious, since vehicles travel at much faster speeds, require much more stopping distance, and can have very expensive accident repair bills.

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...and don't assume you know my angle of approach. It is basic common sense to look where you're going when you're walking. Manholes are in the streets. Are you trying to say that a person does not need to LOOK AROUND before walking into the street? Whatever the gender or age of this person... walking into the street unaware is not a smart thing to do, dammit. A person should NOT be distracted by any other thing when walking into the street!

Fail. Watch the video - the manhole cover is not in the street, it is smack in the middle of a normal stretch of residential sidewalk. I personally think you overestimate how closely you watch where you walk. When you walk the same stretch (sidewalk, hallway, whatever) multiple times without change, it is human nature to automate the action and pay much less attention to the details of your surroundings. In this case a manhole cover (darker colored circle in the sidewalk) was instead a hole (darker colored circle in the sidewalk), and it could easily only take a mild distraction to not notice it. It was a hazard, and it was not unreasonable for the workers to recognize that and take precautions. In fact, they were in the process of taking precautions, an action that itself shows that they recognized it as a hazard, but failed to take full guard against it.

Of course, you may be the rare person who refuses distraction and simply stares at the ground 3ft in front of you while walking. Friend may say hi, and you either stop walking and talk, or refuse to look. After all, it's only common sense to always watch where you're walking, even if you've walked that stretch a million times before and it's always been the same and safe.

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Yup, I watched the video at Booyah's link. The manhole was on the sidewalk. The dummy's mother said the workers walked 10 feet to get the cones. I love the comments at the link... at least some ppl are left in the world that feel that common sense is a virtue.
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And the video also said she was walking to the store with a friend. Friend obviously didn't see it either.

Finally, she certainly didn't walk around a corner as the video shows fences and front yards...so the DWP workers most certainly should have seen her approaching, or at the very least, heard her and her friend as they were walking.

Also, her doctor has apparently decided that she needs an MRI to check for spinal damage. This is serious.

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I'd say that the workers didn't follow the proper order of operations in this instance.

But that doesn't make the girl any less of a nitwit.

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