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At 5 pm today, two blocks from here, a young man inexperienced on his motorcycle lost his life when he was hit by a car. Both people involved are residents of my development. Witnesses said his head was almost off his body and that it took a long time to get the blood washed off the hot pavement.

I feel so bad for both families. Just senseless loss. Another example of why I do not like motorcycles.

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working in the ER, i see a lot of motorcycle vs whatever come in. sometimes its the riders fault for being stupid, sometimes both parties made small miscalculations, and then there are the honest accidents where the cyclist wasnt seen or it was just unpreventable. in any case its rarely a happy ending. i know people have freedom of choice and all but for the love of every thing Holy, wear a helmet, it helps. even bicylist wear em.

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Though it was not a motorcycle accident, I was called out to a pedestrian vs. car (MVA) last week. The driver and the ped apparently had an arguement; the ped being a 15 y-o boy, the dirver being a male in his 40s. The driver turned his car around, got up to a good speed and struck the kid. The police had us close the roadway down for 2 hours while they conducted their invesitagtion and interviewed witnesses. The boy was medivac'ed (taken by helicopter) after our EMS crew stabilized him (head trauma and lacerations to extremities). Not a pretty seen, and the indent in the Honda Accord's windshield of the kid's head was a reminder of how dangerous a car can be to pedestrians.

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A woman was struck and killed on State Route 315 when I was driving to work Monday...the accident scene was not a pretty site.

I do not ride a motorcycle, but both my wife and I like to ride bicycler, and car to bike things are scary that way.

Hopefully the guy in new jersey who struck a 15 year old kid is going to jail for a long time....

And yeah, every time I think about getting a motorcycle someone I know is hurt or killed on one. Working as a corner worker at Mid Ohio several years ago and flagging/course working motorcycle races convinced me that maybe I liked 4 wheels better than 2.

A Miata is probably as close to a motorcycle as I am gonna get in this life time....

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After reading a local news article, apparently the other vehicle that was involved did not actually collide with the motorcycle. Picture showed a gray and black crotch rocket type bike with red trim. The scene is on my walking route... and there is still blood on the street. Sickening. Why leave such a horrible reminder when everyone is local and has to travel through there? :(

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Here in washington state one is required to go to motorcycle school and get certified which shows up on your license before you can even take delivery of a bike. This helps to minimize morons who get a big bike and do not know how to ride.

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i would love to have a motorcycle again. had one in high school and then dad said i could keep the bike or sell it and get a car for college.

now I have a hard time rationalizing a motorcycle when i have kids i need to be around for. One thing is for sure, if I had a motorcycle, i would wear a helmet and gear.

I almost would get one of these, mainly just because they are a little more visible to other drivers....

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Yeah it's always sad to see an accident of any kind, especially when it's close to home.

I am a huge motorcycle fan although I only currently own a project of a dirt bike, but it seems for evey 1 good rider out there there are 15 that you shake your head at. (I know I'm one of them) I mean I'm young and feel invincible and love speed. It's so imporant to ride overly defensively AND offensively on a bike as well as having the right gear. Sandels, shorts, and, t shirt will never be enough not even for your 49cc moped. It sucks in the summer to wear armor but, you have to do it. I know of many people saved by good gear.

I love the fact that I was able to take the $25 Motorcyle safety course and then get my endorsement and be able to ride any bike, but so many people aren't ready to ride the liter bikes, but seem to start there. the US needs a graduated license system liek the rest of the world. A 250cc bike is still plenty fast and personally I think they are wickedly fun to ride. Then once you have experence you can have your 700 cc bikes, then move to liter bikes. I spent some time on a Yamaha R1 and my expirence was limited and mostly on dirt prior to that bike. That bike is just wicked. When your winding out 1st gear to 104 before you even shift into 2nd, you have to realise how responsible you have to be. As a bad bike rider you have to realise most cars don't realise how fast you come up on them and how not visible you are. On a 40 mph road I would probably do about 70-75 and you blow by cars and the drivers don't even know what happened untill you are 2-3 car lengths infront of them. Then I had a real close freind have a terrible accident, kind of put everything in to perspective and I'm much more tame these days. My dad has a 125 zuma that I have learned to have fun on at much safer speeds.

Reg,

Check out BRP's site theres usually demo trucks that come in town and you drive them around in a pack for a good 30 minutes. Very intresting machines. Having drove one I understand their purpose but It's like relearning a bicycle when you hit the twisties.

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Here in washington state one is required to go to motorcycle school and get certified which shows up on your license before you can even take delivery of a bike. This helps to minimize morons who get a big bike and do not know how to ride.

I think Colorado has something like that, but a buddy of mine in Denver nearly killed himself several times the first year after buying a Kawasaki Ninja a few years ago...he'd had previous experience w/ a 50cc bike back home in India, but the Ninja was a bit more of a handful..

My brother had several British bikes in the '60s-70s, took off about 20 years from riding after a couple bad accidents, but in the last 15 years has bought several older Yamahas and Hondas...rides the backroads of rural Ohio, seems to have a lot of fun doing it.

I've never ridden a bike, but wouldn't mind trying one sometime..though I think I'd prefer a Boxster or other small open sports car.

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Here in washington state one is required to go to motorcycle school and get certified which shows up on your license before you can even take delivery of a bike. This helps to minimize morons who get a big bike and do not know how to ride.

I think Colorado has something like that, but a buddy of mine in Denver nearly killed himself several times the first year after buying a Kawasaki Ninja a few years ago...he'd had previous experience w/ a 50cc bike back home in India, but the Ninja was a bit more of a handful..

My brother had several British bikes in the '60s-70s, took off about 20 years from riding after a couple bad accidents, but in the last 15 years has bought several older Yamahas and Hondas...rides the backroads of rural Ohio, seems to have a lot of fun doing it.

I've never ridden a bike, but wouldn't mind trying one sometime..though I think I'd prefer a Boxster or other small open sports car.

Having ridden and then given the choice of my wife and kids or my bike, I gladly gave up the bike to be around for the kids and wife. Bikes are great when your young and single, but as we age and get slower responses, I like more steel around me now. :P

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Aye ... such senseless loss.

Thoughts/prayers to the families/friends of all those involved.....

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I feel bad for the family. But depending upon the circumstances, some riders deserve to have their guts paint the road.

Summer's in full swing and so are the morons in sandals riding R1's. I'd be less annoyed except that many of these riders create dangerous situations for themselves and others on the road. Just today I had some lunatic on the highway pass me on the right, sharply cut to the left and then weave between several vehicles before opening up when the coast was clear.

Turns out, we were headed to the same motorcycle dealership. I chewed him out in the parking lot before he got back on his bike. As he left, the bike cut out twice before he hit the road, because he couldn't keep his clutch in the friction zone. So he duckwalked to the road, revved it like mad, and blew through an intersection on a yellow light, right in front of a car turning left. Real pro.

Sandels, shorts, and, t shirt will never be enough not even for your 49cc moped.

Often, these are the same morons that wear a back protector with their t-shirt. Because that'll help a lot.

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Oh my God. On Thursdays I visit my mother for supper. I left a bit early since I'm bumming around these days. I came upon an accident about 2 miles south of my house, people were stopped in the road, it had just happened. I saw a white Cobalt sedan parked on the shoulder in the opposing lane, right side headlight dangling by the wiring, antifreeze puddled on the road beneath it. I could not see what was ahead. There were at least two vehicles in front of me. I could see that the left lane was clear, so I creeped into the lane and proceeded at a crawl. I saw a white Chevy Express passenger van with yellow "SCHOOL STUDENTS" stickers on the side and rear. Beneath the van was an orange sport bike. People were on their cell phones and in the roadway checking on people in another car that was off the road. Then I looked to my left and immediately became horrified. In the ditch was a young man's body, motionless, arms at his side. Wearing jeans, a striped shortsleeve shirt and a helmet, the shirt was pulled up. His clothes, helmet and stomach were abraded from sliding across the pavement. His visor was partially broken, but I couldn't see his face. His complexion was gray, the color of death. It was a scene seared into my mind's eye as I proceeded to pass at idle speed. No one was ministering to the boy. I traveled in silence.

A short while ago on my way home, emergency personnel had the road blocked. I stopped and asked if the accident was fatal. The official said "yes sir"... I wonder how long it will take to erase the image of this young person out of my mind.

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People ask me how can I stand to see accident scenes, but in reality as a fire police officer I'm usually a distance away from the scene, as I'm there to redirect traffic. If I was 15 minutes earlier to the ped/MVA I posted above, I may have seen the kid lying in the street. Most of the accidents I've been on since my beginning with the fire police have not been fatal or near fatal; at most the injured are transported by the ambulance or to a medivac and I don't see them. Other, older fire police officers I've worked with, especially those in officer positions, usually get to see the scene firsthand. Bill, hopefully you haven't been too tramatized by what you saw, though I'm sure the memory will last a while.

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Here in washington state one is required to go to motorcycle school and get certified which shows up on your license before you can even take delivery of a bike. This helps to minimize morons who get a big bike and do not know how to ride.

I think Colorado has something like that, but a buddy of mine in Denver nearly killed himself several times the first year after buying a Kawasaki Ninja a few years ago...he'd had previous experience w/ a 50cc bike back home in India, but the Ninja was a bit more of a handful..

My brother had several British bikes in the '60s-70s, took off about 20 years from riding after a couple bad accidents, but in the last 15 years has bought several older Yamahas and Hondas...rides the backroads of rural Ohio, seems to have a lot of fun doing it.

I've never ridden a bike, but wouldn't mind trying one sometime..though I think I'd prefer a Boxster or other small open sports car.

Having ridden and then given the choice of my wife and kids or my bike, I gladly gave up the bike to be around for the kids and wife. Bikes are great when your young and single, but as we age and get slower responses, I like more steel around me now. :P

I agree....plus with a small sports car, I can easily have a radio, a beverage, a top if things get wet, hot, or windy, a place to haul real luggage, and I can drive it in the winter.

Still, having ridden motorcycles, there is NOTHING like a motorcycle for fun.

But I have a wife and kids also, and I want top be around for them.

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People ask me how can I stand to see accident scenes, but in reality as a fire police officer I'm usually a distance away from the scene, as I'm there to redirect traffic. If I was 15 minutes earlier to the ped/MVA I posted above, I may have seen the kid lying in the street. Most of the accidents I've been on since my beginning with the fire police have not been fatal or near fatal; at most the injured are transported by the ambulance or to a medivac and I don't see them. Other, older fire police officers I've worked with, especially those in officer positions, usually get to see the scene firsthand. Bill, hopefully you haven't been too tramatized by what you saw, though I'm sure the memory will last a while.

It can be very traumatic.

I had a good friend when I was a boy, his name was "RED" Ray, he was an engeneer for the Nickel Plate Road/Norfolk and Western-Now Norfolk Southern.

He was running a train in 1962 and killed a young woman who ran the crossing gates in a VW Beetle. You can't stop a train on a dime....

I knew him around 1982...twenty years later, it still really bothered him, although there was nothing that he could have done.

When I was 14 or 15 (also around 81 or 82) I saw a train hit a young woman driving a small car (Chevy Vega). Train was going 55-60 miles an hour at the time....dragged the car a quarter of a mile.

She lived, it wasn't pretty.

A few years back, (about twelve) my sixteen year old daughter was 4 years old. We lived in a house that faced the railroad tracks, and another young woman (teenage girl) ran the lights and got struck by a train, car caught fire. Daughter ran and got my wife, who called 911....the girl made it....daughter was really bothered by it.

About ten miles up the track the same damn train struck a man walking down the tracks and almost killed him. Friend of mine that works for the railroad said that day at work REALLY bothered the guy at the throttle of the train...

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i actually just got my permit about a month ago. im eyeballing the 250 class, the honda cbr250r to be exact. its perfect for what i want, a commuter bike. 25hp is plenty enough to get down the road and keep me out of trouble. i like speed. i need slower vehicles to keep me governed if you will. my buddy has a yzr6... and has seen 180 on it. absolutely ridiculous. i may eventually move to a 600, but there is no need to go anymore than that in my mind unless it pulls double duty for track days.

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Were I to get a bike, I think I would get a Harley Sportster 1200. I like smaller, more nimble vehicles, and I like speed.

Local HOG group is a great bunch of people, and it would be a cool way to get out and do social events.

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I haven't heard any new developments regarding the first accident in my neighborhood, but in the second accident (in TWO DAYS very local to me!), the 20 year old rider rear-ended the school van that was stopped in the road waiting for a car ahead of it to turn, got thrown and was hit and run over by the Cobalt coming in the opposing lane. I hope he felt no pain.

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I've seen a few idiots blasting down the freeway as fast at their bikes will take them--and this is at night when there's much less traffic, but still a lot. They split lanes, weave in and out of traffic, pop wheelies, and generally drive far fatster than the speed limit. Granted we all do, but if the flow of traffic is like 10-20mph over--so around 80-90mph!--and you're blasting past us like we're standing still, then you're going too damn fast. And only every once in a while, do i see any of these idiots wearing gear. I really hope they get pulled over for doing that. I really do. Given the alternative, it's better they lose their license than their life.

I'd like a bike just for fun, and maybe just because they're good on gas. but i want to learn how to ride it properly first.

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Rider safety classes are given at low cost at our local Harley Davidson dealership (I think the oldest Harley dealership in the USA).

Also IIRC by the State of OHIO...

Tray a safety class and see what you think.

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Another accident/fire police call Saturday night... 9:30-ish PM, a motorcyclist traveling on Route 130 North went through an intersection an struck a pedestrian who attempted to cross the road (investigation was trying to determine if the motorcyclist had the green light or not). Basically split the pedestrian in half; motorcyclist (a north NJ cop) was thrown from the bike. Medivac took both to the nearest trama center, no word still on either's condition. Roadway needed to be cleaned before NJDOT would reopen. Relieved at 3:00 AM (I did not see the accident scene; was on nearby traffic duty).

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I will never own one. In addition to the strangers outlined herein, I lost a cousin on a dirt/street bike hybrid in 1978. To those who wish to own them, please be aware of the danger you are in and take the necessary precautions.

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well yes, pads, helmet, etc. but as far as safety's concerned, nothing protects you more on a bike than skill and keeping your head on a swivel to watch for other motorists.

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