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I've been a good member here, well-behaved, haven't caused trouble/gotten any warnings. Why must you taunt??

You're missing your calling doing reviews.

One's an (ugly) RWD-proportioned coupe, the other is a (passable but generic) FWD-proportioned sedan. Not seeing it. And NO ONE will buy one, so it could look like a Lamborghini or a lawn tractor- doesn't matter.

Jaguar Land Rover has already announced plans to begin electrifying their lineups beginning in 2020, but Jaguar could be going one step further. Autocar reports that the management is considering making Jaguar an EV-only brand within the next decade. Plans have already been drawn up for a strategy that would see Jaguar phase out its conventional lineup with fully electric models over the next five to seven years. Here is the gist of the strategy, A fully-electric sedan would replace the XJ sedan in two-years time. This model will take on the likes of the Tesla Model S and Porsche's upcoming Taycan. The XE and XF will be replaced by a new electric crossover that will be similar in size to Audi's e-tron crossover (possibly taking the place of the F-Pace) by 2023. 2025 would see the E-Pace replaced by the next-generation I-Pace. The upcoming large J-Pace crossover will be the sole conventional model until 2027 when an electric replacement debuts. There is talk about an electric sports car taking the place of the F-Type. It is quite the gamble that JLR is considering for the brand. But it one the brand is seriously considering for two reasons. One is that Jaguar sales have been floundering due partly to lineup having more sedans than crossovers, along with being heavily dependent on diesel. The other is that it would allow Jaguar to jump ahead of the likes of Audi and Mercedes-Benz with electric vehicles. Remember, Jaguar already has their EV on sale, while Audi and Mercedes-Benz are in the process of launching theirs. Source: Autocar View full article

And it's obviously Esquire UK, as the references are painfully geographical. Likewise is the claim "The X-Class is also the only pick-up around that hits the “luxury” mark." Pity the Brits- bet they're continually whining about 'why do others always get the good stuff?' when looking at USDM trucks. https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a23640970/will-mercedes-benz-new-pick-up-make-you-the-man-you-were-always-supposed-to-be/ There is zero question in my mind that this turd will be coming to the US; Daimler canNOT resist a carrot nub on a string even if it meant a lifetime of carrots next week.

Father of one of my students drives an S class. That thing does have a presence.

The CLS is my favorite Benz. The S Class is my second.

Technically it is a re-badged Nissan Navara, which is a new truck. The Frontier we have in the USA is the 2004-2014 Navara. And the X-class was never designed for the US market, it was made for Europe, Africa and Australia. If they wanted to do an American version, I imagine there would be interior upgrades, more sound deadening, different engines, and suspension changes. And you wouldn't need a G-class platform for any of that, but they could pull suspension and differential bits from it to put on the X-class. From a CNBC article a few days ago: Mercedes-Benz, a luxury car company founded in 1926, makes an average $339 profit every second. This amounts to an average $20,310 every minute, $1,218,656 every hour and $29,247,743 every 24 hours, according to Staveley Head, a U.K.-based car insurance provider.

Interceptor ^ reminds me much more of an AMC Pacer than another slice off the Audi sausage. It's an awkward, ungainly car.

I think we're still a few years from the true peak, but just as wagons and minivans had their peak and subsequent decline, I think it's only a matter of time for full-size trucks as the primary family hauler to reverse course.

Preview of my review. Here's one for @smk4565

“Peak truck market” is probably right. The next recession is going to hit this country hard because one of the things a falling dollar will do is drive oil prices up. A lot of people fresh into their 4 or 5 year lease will suddenly have a truck that they can't afford to fuel and can’t get out of the lease because no one else wants it. Trucks may be more efficient than ever, but they’re still not going to beat a 45mpg Camry Hybrid on an endurance race between fuel pumps. The current model of purchasing vehicles (84 month financing, relatively fuel inefficient vehicles, buying way more than can be afforded) is simply not sustainable. Eventually the credit will run out, the recession will hit, and it will all come crashing down again. We didn’t learn our lesson from 10 years ago.

Not quite yet.... this might be a setup for it... but it’s not hitting yet. When housing sales plummet, that’s when to take cover. I’m starting to think the Ford is heading towards bankruptcy in the next recession though.

^ without pics, it's kinda worthless. - - - - -

'truck = overcompensation' ranks right up there with 'camaro = mullet'.

YEAH, good things (as well as dynamite!) come in small packages

I'm so freaking tired of that argument / stereotype. I'm not going to go on another rant about it right at the moment but maybe when I have more time,,,,

Yes on that Damn charger though.

Gotta Love Custom old trucks! Custom cars, nothing better.

Selling High Country in the Old Country.

Ford is already selling all the F-150s in the US they can build. Maybe GM, with their falling truck sales numbers, should give it a go in the UK.... oh, no wait... they mostly pulled out of Europe except for Corvette and Cadillac.

ABSOLUTELY

They make plenty of fun about Jaguar's and Land Rover's build quality. Just last season on Amazon's Grand Tour they did old Jags challenge and had plenty of laughs about their build quality. They don't discriminate who they make fun of. That's why they are so great. Clarkson loved plenty of American cars too, owned Ford GT.

https://www.dailymotion.com/6bf8e0e4-c9ef-4f9b-82a5-efe8dab194fa You talking about this video? Americans do whatever Americans do, Incest! What a douche bag, no wonder they lost their empire. Clearly not interested in living life.

I said it once and I'll say it again.. outside of the S-Class, GL-Class, AMG, SL, and upper EClass models.. Mercedes interiors are no better than my Impala LTZ's interior. I mean it too. There is NOTHING inside that suggests that "this car costs $20K more than a mainstream vehicle." Its why I always find myself perplexed.. confused.. when comparisons are made between say a CTS and an E-Class.. and the reviewer, usually from Motor Trend, says the Benz interior is better. I'm like are we looking at or sitting in the the same car. In terms of this I've been in the High Country, Denali, Limited, and Big Horn.. and This is in no way looks to be on their level in terms of LUXURY

People said the same thing about tiny, tinny miserly Euro cars when gas was 33-cents here. Then they became increasingly available and buyers found appeal in them. If Rollers, Bentleys, A8s and 5000lb s-classes can find buyers, just think what an imminently more capable, comparatively luxurious and far more exclusive F-150 Platinum could do over there.

Neat info on the similarities and differences. And https://www.automobilemag.com/news/nissan-navara-pickup-redesigned-frontier-to-be-different/

You also don't like anything German made so this isn't surprising.

In Europe the level of car's luxury is lower I believe in general. So A-class MB is not expected to be at the same level as we expect here. In regards to vans, we just visited Italy this year and took a transfer from the airport to another town, the van was MB and it definitely felt more luxurious than any other van I have been in.

I don't see anything wrong with it other than the price.

@Drew Dowdell Let the recession begin: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/11/why-are-markets-plunging-and-which-stocks-are-worst-hit-us-interest-rates-trade-war https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/10/10/why-stock-market-went-down-so-much/1593803002/