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This...S AWD form...example...sticker $37,405...at that price, you're still at 2.5L engine and cloth in an Acadia... So...

Don't be the Betamax. Sony made the best VCRs out there when they first were released, but they didn't allow anyone else to use their format. Eventually VHS came about which everyone else used and Betamax eventually fell by the wayside and was pushed out of the market. Telsa with their non-universal plug should take note of this.

Love the Telluride. Not a single person we're referred to it is anything less than thrilled. Money spent on design, refinement, quality of materials, and keeping features standard, not optional, with a great 3.8L V6 & 8-speed underhood, plus a real AWD system that can handle more than...say a Highlander, etc. that'll just spin. Biggest market challenge, to others: the Telluride is far NICER, yet at a "normal" far lower price point. Look at a Telluride S AWD, with the bigger great looking wheels, and leatherette. It looks nearly identical to the high end SX, yet can be found for a $36-38k sticker... Kia got the message, antithesis of GM and others, that keep the prices in line, and spend effort maximizing the vehicle, and you'll get it. The only other vehicle in this class priced similarly, and even not as low in ways vs. trim level, is the Subaru Ascent. Both max out around $46-47k with EVERYTHING. Yet...these drive nicer, are far more refined, are better built, have more features, are higher quality than...a $45-59k Traverse, a $45-60k+ Enclave, an all over the place Explorer price. You can say "but incentives..." all you want, but that's such a head in the clouds, and they're still thousands more, for less. And like Drew said after real experience...this vs. an Acadia? ? No comparison. Cargo area trimming above is only a small item. We drove a Sorento last year, when testing Traverse replacements, and out of 8 crossovers..."GM only mom", put it in 2nd place next to the Jeep Grand Cherokee she ended up buying. "It drove the best, the power was great, the features and interior seemed the best design...I really liked it, but the Jeep is just more overall what I want." Go...Telluride?

No, they haven't been at an event that I've been at yet. They are mechanically identical, so I would expect the performance to be the same. Maybe some slight differences in suspension tuning, but I don't know that for a fact. It may just come down to taste, I like the interior and exterior of the Telluride better than the Palisade. My only experience with the Palisade was on the show floor in LA in November... so my recollection of the interior is a bit foggy.

I have not yet. I had a conflict and couldn't make it to the test drive event. What I can say is that the interior of the Telluride is still nicer than the Explorer. Explorer, for it's good looks, still had some cheapness built into the interior.

I don’t know what they are thinking WRT ‘construction machines’, but a Cat D5 is a 26000 lb machine and it’s NOT a big one. A. Where do you recharge on a construction site- I’m guessing a belching diesel generator. B. I drove a D6 and a D7; the loading that goes on pushing dirt is incredible- even with wide tracks and in low gear- you can bog them down to a stop. Keeping in mind how cold and high speeds drain pass vehicle electric batteries, the battery pack to create a comparable ( performance AND price) E-dozer is going to take a LOT more than 42 million to develop.

Wow :o the docks are so empty, I have never seen them lacking containers. Trade is not what it used to be. 20190624_090442.mp4

With the onslaught of EVs and PHEVs in the coming years using the VHS plug. Tesla needs to have a plan.... they don't, but they need to.

It was early 80s day yesterday here in Pittsburgh. 1. My Toronado was out 2. Early 80s boxy Escort Wagon in decent shape for such an unlovable car. 3. 80 or 81 Pontiac Firebird running well, but visually rough 4. Monte Carlo Aeroback on a trailer, victim of an engine fire. 5. Jeep Wagoneer 6. Some old Benz diesel clattering away ( I think it was a 300D, but that era anyway)

I think the word you are looking for is DGAF. As in GM DGAF about certain details while other automakers do.

This blows away an Acadia Denali. I had one as a rental just a week after the Kia

Still shocks me a bit that Kia and GMC are being seriously compared. Makes me sad for GMC.

I have to say, I tested out 9 vehicles that day and the Telluride is the one that made the biggest impression on me.

They never let an engine go that long or be underpowered for the time. But it isn't 4.6 liters to get 255 hp. Cadillac should just kill the XT6 now, no way they can compete with the GX460. And the Lincoln Aviator is DOA, that 400+ hp hybrid deal they got going on is no match for the Lexus V8.

^ Right. We've already seen the industry move to ubitquitous displacements (2.0L/3.0L/4.0L) and aerodynamic demands have rendered everything the same except for grilles/lights & emblems. There's less & less reason to have a 'toyota EV' and a 'nissan EV' and a 'mazda EV' when there's not much in the way of differentialion to come, just ink a multi-armed JV and call it the 'toysanda' EV and be done with it. Maybe they can 3-way split a Ben Franklin in profit on it some day.