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This is STILL a great-looking car [I just can't get past the 80s interior].

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If memory serves me correct, I think a car mag along the lines of Car and Driver or Motor Trend ran an article saying exactly that about a certain sinister G-Body from Buick. The best I could do is this pic, but I swear I remember the GNX being called Vader's ride before the Impala. I could be wrong though and selective memory is kicking in. I remember that Impala commercial too though...

That's not just any second gen Aurora. That's a Final 500 Aurora. Mildly collectible. You can tell from the special purple paint that all of the final 500s got, the wheels, and the badge on the front fender.

fiat is dead; a vegetable. Sold 900 vehicles in Dec '18 (U.S.). Alfa sold 1900 the same month. Chrysler sold 12,425 and Dodge sold 32,xxx. Bury the dying and invest in the living.

Better bundle up for the freezing Pacific North"Wet" Fall and Winter weather. ? Drizzle?! Is that what you guys call steady rain now just to feel better about it? ?

Why electric muscle? The Dark Side of the Force!!!

Kill off Fiat and Alfa should have never been allowed to happen and they would be been profitable. Alfa was a stupid decision to bring it back from the grave as was bringing Fiat here to the US.

Well, I'm from Ohio originally..NE Ohio is very green w/ rolling hills, rivers and lakes..lots of fall colors...and Lake Erie w/ islands. I love it. I lived in Colorado for 12 years before Arizona, did like it there. I don't miss AZ at all, it just didn't suit me.

So, then, Bel Air was the mid-line model (by deductive reasoning). I spotted a lot of cars a short while back. I was in a state/region that would be considered Appalachia looking at fall colors. There aren't enough words for the wonderful scenery. At any rate, I saw lots and lots of cars. Sometimes 7, 10, or 12 of them on ONE property alone. (Notables include the '68ish Mercury Cougar coupe with hide-away headlamps and the sequential blinking tail lamps as well as the '77 Monte Carlo coupe, perhaps the most garish of all Montes and which, as big as it was, had a true bench seat WITHOUT an armrest in the base model.) And most of them weren't, or didn't appear to be, in working order. I would have taken some photos but (1) I may have been driving on a two lane highway, and/or (2) I didn't want someone to come after me with a rifle. Happy Halloween, folks.

^ I figured that badge was 'something special'. - - - - - Working a theme : Wonder what's behind Door #1 & #2?? I vote for a '69 Mk III and a '57 Premier coupe.

Well, I like it better than the Trax.....

Maybe 5 years ago when sedans still sold well. It is a sharp car though.

Large car is synonymous with full size, the 300 is a full size that is smaller than the CT6...there are variations within the full size category, always have been...just like in olden days how a GM C-body was bigger inside and out than a B-body. Both were full size platforms. And I wasn't comparing the 300 w/ the CT6 in terms of price or content; just that they are both full size sedans, as is the Taurus, Merc S-class, Impala, LaCrosse, XTS, Avalon, 7-series, etc...all different price points and content levels and dimensions...

What are you talking about? Both the CT6 and 300 are RWD. If you look under the specs tab on this page, you'll see the EPA classifies the 300 as a "Large Car". It's not mid-size. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=40610 The CT6 uses exceptionally expensive lightweight tech in order to achieve that weight. It weighs less than an AWD 3-series... are you saying the 3-series is out of date too? The CT6 (like the Avalon) is an anomaly on the weight scale, you can't really judge the whole class based on the CT6 alone. Most of the 300's direct competition is right around the same weight give or take 100 lbs.

That front end just looks weird. I'll be getting my first test car in a number of years tomorrow. It's a Mazda CX-5 Signature. Get your questions ready. Palisade will be coming later next month.

GM might have wished they stock piled more cash.....

The 300 is a full size. The wheelbase is only a couple inches shorter than the CT6. It just has shorter overhangs. In fact, the wheelbase is about 9 inches longer than the full size Impala. The weight is fine.

At least there is good news on the GM front despite the strike: https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2019/10/gm-overcomes-strike-impact-to-beat-analyst-q3-earnings-expectations/

I think GM has already culled back the Buicks they weren't making a profit on in the US, with the exception of the Regal which they are contractually obliged to sell for a certain amount of time. Buick will end up being an all crossover brand in the US and it will make money that way. It can easily stand on its own in that segment.

Because of dieselgate, diesel is now seen as a lot dirtier than gasoline, even if it has since cleaned up its act. Environmentally conscious Euros, of which there are a lot more of per capita than there are here, are switching to hybrids, EVs, and even just regular gasoline cars to avoid the dirt stigma. Diesel has fallen to 30% of sales in the EU when it was over 50% a few years ago. Add to it that gasoline cars have gotten more efficient and diesel engines still cost more to buy up front and the cost advantage on diesel has diminished significantly.

It's partially on assumed lost sales due to the lack of inventory.

The above picture does not insinuate a gap like there is here. It only looks about a foot of a gap in the above picture, to me. In all fairness, the trailer on the above picture appears to be completely over the pairs of wheels as opposed to what the below picture shows.

^ Correct on all points above. Biscayne was bottom rung, top Impala got triple tails.

Very clean 2nd gen Aurora :

One day GM will build all of their vehicles in China, probably just after the UAW negotiates a $200 per hour deal for the last remaining 87 members.

That's why I do Sample Lunch at costco without a cart.

This showed up at my buddy's shop the other day, owner wants to get it running. Obviously has been in a garage; last registered in 1974, the odometer shows 56,xxx miles. Stovebolt 6, 3-spd manual and zero rot.