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Yeah. WTF?! Shouldn't the Corolla be about $10K LESS?

Anybody else eating ramen and drinking instant coffee, while huddled at home afraid of the virus? (me right now)

The sad part is is that the CUV equivalent of a Corolla (better known as a RAV-4) would sell for five grand MORE if similarly equipped. Corolla should be max out at $25k, not $30K MSRP.

When I went to the auto show a month ago or so the Trax was $31k, the Equinox $41k, the Blazer $51k....madness...

In a 25 mile radius from my zip code there are 370 brand new Corollas with only about twenty priced above $25k with maximum around $28k. The majority of Corollas are sold closer to $20k. BTW within same range there are Traxes sold at over $30k. There are 301 brand new Traxes and I see almost 90 of them priced over $25k. That's IMO is ridiculous,

That like a top of the line Corolla? Seems into Camry territory. I just can't imagine almost 30k for a generic compact FWD 4cyl sedan...

Yup, this is a shady "bait & switch" done by a lot of carmakers. I highly doubt you will ever see a Trailblazer L ($19,990) on a dealer lot... that is available only in FWD, and only in white, like a deliberate fleet vehicle that is lumped in with the private owner versions. What a sham. You can get the base Corolla in 4 bland colors, three more than the base Trailblazer. Chevy has done away with the Cruze, their former Corolla competitor, so the comparison is valid.

The money to be made is by the fast food and fast station hybrid business that exist now like Sheetz or Wa-Wa. If you have a coffee bar, soda fountain , fast food restaurant, convenient store type set up that draws traffic anyway, where as before maybe half the customers get gas and leave, now they have to let their EV charge. So Sheetz can charge whatever per KWH or electric the person puts in their car and has them there for 20-30 minutes with nothing to do except spend money on coffee, lunch, etc. Although I think 80% of EV charting will happen at home, if not more. The vast majority of cars sit for 12 hours consecutive every day, plenty of time to charge at home.

Well, the 2 worlds DO intermingle upon occasion...

$29 grand for a corolla?????

Good read. if there is not a proper network put into place, then this will be just another fail. Hopefully they will get that part figured out instead of just pissing away money with only half a plan.

Wonder if Newsom is self-quarantined in his house?

sorting onions, Rice Minnesota, 1939 ::

Charge at home, spend zero time ever at a gas station.

Apparently I’m an ‘essential business’ so I guess I can keep running around.

For a Buick automobile, that is unacceptable. For the founding brand of GM? Disgusting.

State should be at fault for licensing the driver. Do trucking companies routinely duplicate state testing procedures, or do they assume the state is actually certifying drivers when they give them a commercial license?

Which is why a CPO looks like a better deal to me.

30k for a compact car...ow.

It starts from $19.6k, this one is fully loaded with bunch of options. You can load Trailblazer that starts at $19k up to $33k too

Gas stations have operated that way for over a century. Surely WaWa can do the same with EVs.

Ugh, such a dry topic I thought I'd offer a public service announcement:

You were confusing revenue with profit there, but you correctly stated it with the last line. If you can take in $1000/day in revenue, but the COST of doing so is $1250, would you do it? Have we seen any specifics on Tesla supercharger's bottom line? I doubt it's profitable given Tesla's miserable balance sheet, but I've no idea... other than the fact if it were a 'red hot income deal'- plenty of companies would be getting into them, rather than a handful. The logistics, legalese and variables in local costs could be considerable and off-putting. Telsa was FORCED to install these early on to allay EV range fears. I question strongly whether they're ultimately necessary beyond interstates.

First, the map confirms a few things and brings up more questions. The counties of King and Snohomish have the bulk of the cases. Then, the numbers in Pierce (Tacoma) and Thurston (Olympia ... typical diverse, multi-ethnic workforce of state capitals) are surprisingly low. Numbers up in Whatcom County, with WWU, and right beneath Canada are also low. When the border was open, there was a lot of transit through there. Out at the desolate coastal counties, the numbers are super low ... good. Second, that's a good article. We are behind the curve in testing. These aren't blood tests. They're swabs, right? They need to amp up both testing and mask availability. People are going out sparingly, to do necessary errands. If they used masks sparingly when they did that, it would help. It's that people have hoarded them up. I don't see anything wrong with people having a few boxes each. We've got a few boxes of most household things in our homes. I saw photos of students in Florida on spring break, huddled together and goofing around at the beach. De Santis didn't act to close the beaches, so local jurisdictions did.

I don’t see why an auto maker needs their own charging network when they don’t have their own gas stations. You’d think there would be monopoly or anti trust law issues is a car maker owned gas stations. Current gas stations will put in EV chargers or restaurants and malls will, etc. And I imagine a lot of gas stations as we know them today will be gone in 10-15 years.

^ That is NOT sustainable. Traveling is not transmitting the virus.

Cool read on the thoughts and focus of GM's EV plans through 2025. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/automakers-note-general-motors-ev-154903848.html The above link talks about GM's plans, what other auto makers are doing and where they see the market going. https://electrek.co/2019/05/28/gm-ev-charging-network/ Interesting take on GM's own charging network and the lack of investing in it themselves and how it could end up hurting GM. Very interesting read as well. It will be interesting to see how the EV rollouts play out with the global pandemic of Coronavirus and how they get work done.

Well with no job, I would buy a truck tent for my Colorado and live in it, sleeping in a different overgrown parking lot each night.

FYI, Washington State just updated our numbers. 74 dead and 1,376 infected in isolation with Coronavirus. 15,819 people tested. https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-updates-washington-state/281-28696f19-ae8b-4a07-be1b-6306c3e6fc24 We also have a map of the state by county with the numbers of dead and infected. https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/tracking-coronavirus-outbreak-in-washington-state/281-087d2383-e25b-4c09-afdf-df526506cee9 Pandemic Craziness, but gotta work through this. We were warned in 2006 by the epidermologist doctor who helped defeat smallpox of a pandemic and sadly while the next two administrations listened which helped us avoid sars / mars, the medical advice fell on deaf ears. https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/ Really good read for those interested from a medical standpoint and what to expect next.

It’’s different!

I understand. Actually, I agree. There is only one problem: about 75% of all Buick vehicles sold are sold in China, not here. Without China, Buick goes the way of Oldsmobile (1897-2004 RIP).

Buick Encores are sourced in SK; Envisions are sourced in China.

Sorry, but thanks in part to CAFE, turbochargers are now standard. The Envision deserves a V6 for one reason: more torque than any 4cyl (with or without a turbo) can provide. Too bad China also insists on displacement taxes too.