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@ocnblu Got it. 3G is the first two digits of the VIN. 3 is country code Mexico and G is for GM. So it was a Mexican built GM and there were only two of those on the list, the Avalanche and the EXT. While I wouldn't have said no to an EXT, an Avalanche popped up that I couldn't NOT buy. So, I have bought what is likely the lowest mileage 2013 Avalanche in the country. All the paperwork and loan has been finalized, I just have to pick it up on Wednesday. It's a Blue Topaz 2013 LTZ Black Diamond with only 12,800 miles on the clock. I paid $32,990 and Carvana gave me $8,100 for the Cruze. It checks all my boxes for heated/cooled seats, heated steering wheel, remote start. The only thing is doesn't have that I would have liked is a sunroof, but for such a museum piece, I will survive without it.

You left us in the middle of the night without warning. You never told us what, where, why. You never even said goodbye. So now, you come back and you think everything will be alright? Just like it was before? Come here you big lug! Give me a hug!

I’m going to keep you all hanging until one of you gets it or I pick it up on Wednesday. But there are plenty of clues in this thread and you all know me well enough to figure it out.

Agreed, but watch how fast mercedes copies it.

But the base model doesn't go 0-60 in 2.6 secs. How many models do you want to compare 1 competitor to? Correction: Tesla WAS on fire. the catalog is stale now- Model s is NINE years old, and Musk has combined S & X sales numbers to hide the dwindling numbers there. The Model 3 cannibalized off most of the S buyers.

19:25 in the video. I don't see anything in that segment that proves it's all CGI. - - - - - Legally, a 2023 model can go on sale Jan 1, 2022. Cadillac did that sort of thing with the first CTS.

I agree that true luxury brands should not be downmarket... but the small margin / bigger volume is too ahrd for single-marque brands to resist. SMK seems to think that a $75K Lyriq is some sort of indicator of a problem. I believe we're too far out from a finalized vehicle to take that figure as law right now.

Seems Biden, a GM Corvette fan might have let slip that a C8 Electric Corvette is being worked on and coming with a 200 plus MPH top speed. Seems the presidential candidate believes that an EV market could revitalize the US Auto industry in ways that have not been accomplished with ICE. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129154_biden-200-mph-electric-corvette-us-can-own-the-ev-market

I see them all the time. They have taunted me so!

Holy timewarp, Batman. Smoooooth!

For those wondering about the Ward's Auto article - https://www.wardsauto.com/vehicles/cadillac-lyriq-pricing-expected-under-75000

Not to mention how long has Benz been “showing off” the delayed EQS lineup? Funny how that gets sidestepped by the resident Daimler fan.

‘glass domed hood, big n littles, tach up high:

A lot of good facts here and with all the low 3 liter V6s and 4.3s in both V6 and V8 form, it's easy to get them confused and/or forget them. I had forgotten. There was a 3.3 V6 in the downsized Malibu because, that same year, they put out a 3.2 V6 (196 c.i.) for equivalent Buick products, such as the Regal and the Century. I knew someone who had this engine in a hand-me down in a 2-door Regal, and he said it was reliable, economical, but had no oomph. It was great that Chevy's downsized full-sizes kept the inline 6 because the engine bay had room for it. I believe 231s were available in the BOP full-size base cars. I think, in that era, I'd opt for the inline 6 over the 231. I don't know what the 4.4 V8 was based on, which was also found in Malibus and Monte Carlos. 4.3s by Chevrolet can be confusing, since they made them as V6s and V8s. Both were excellent engines. The 4.3 V6 (Vortec) was sliced off from a Chevy 350. Who'd have thought that this engine was a slam dunk for 300,000 miles? A few Astro van drivers have told me that their 4.3s would not give up the ghost. I think that, in that era, the 4.3 V6 (~ 262 c.i.) with simple TBI was better than the 231 c.i. V6, even if the 231 had gone even firing. And, yes, it showed up in the 1985 MY model year. I had the opportunity to drive a RWD Monte Carlo (bucket seats and console!) coupe with that engine in the NYC area and the extra ~ 30 hp (if I recall) came in handy for short ramps and getting out of the gate after paying a bridge toll. The 4.3 V8 was a de-bored 5.0 (305 c.i.) V8. It showed up for the 1994 MY in RWD form but only stuck around for a few years. If in excellent condition, the purr that they make is music to the ears. It also can go the distance ... just hope the Optispark ignition control doesn't give out, which can be costly. For some reason, the smaller GM V8s have nice, quiet exhaust notes and I like quiet running cars. Also, in the late '70s, Chevy had some batches of 305s and 350s that had premature camshaft wear problems. I knew a few people who had problems with them. That definitely skewed me towards Olds designed V8s. However, with all of that behind them, I would gladly drive a car powered by the L99 engine (4.3 Chevy V8) that the thread discusses.

Well I hope you enjoy your Avalanche. Post pics asap.

Cool!

It was the '80s; close your eyes & throw a paint-filled balloon. All right - just wanted to make sure you were still (able to) separate the two. Carry on.

Happened to see this today, thought of the Lyriq :

Yet I doubt the majority here myself included could tell these were E class and not S or C class. Having Family DNA is one thing, having all levels of a product line blur into each other is another. MB has blurred all levels badly.

I don’t report modern stuff simply because it is everywhere (unless its only weeks old or extremely uncommon). This is neither; my son was upgraded to a Camaro at Enterprise. I strong-armed my way behind the wheel to gas it before returning. V6, 275 HP. Yes; it scoots!

I remember the 4.3L V6 debuting in 1985, but Chevrolet first V6 based on the small block V8 was a 200 cubic inch version that debuted in the downsized 1978 Malibu. It was upsized to 3.8L in 1980 229 cubic inches (full size cars still had the 250 inline six as standard for 1977 through 1979), which was standard in the full size models and then upsized again in 1985 to 4.3L. I remember having driver's training in a late 70's Malibu with the 3.3. It could barely go up a hill.

1978 The 4.3L Chevy V6 is among the strongest of production V6's ever produced, especially in its later versions. It was first produced in 1978 and that design stemmed from the 1955 Chevy Small Block V8. The Novak Guide to the Chevrolet Small Block V6 Engine Had Several ofn these cars, during my quest for one of them, I came across a 1994 (this was in 2006) former NYC police car, former NYC taxi, 557,000 miles. With regular maintenance, these were tough cars.

There will always be buyers- people with money, dealerships, corporations.......even other countries....

I dont like the name. I dont like the reason why they came up with that particular name. (Because Cadillac is the music world's most sung brand.) I dont even like the idea going with "iq"as the last two letters of a name they come up with as a naming theme for their vehicles. But hey! At least Cadillac got real names now. Its just that I think Cadillac needs commanding, arrogant yet elegant names for their cars. Lyriq pronounced lyric is still fruity. It could be elegant. Its just that its goofy spelled with "iq" at the end. Making it fruity nonetheless. Im OK with the styling, Its elegant. Its sporty, kinda. Lets be honest though. You were wishing for a Blackwing V8 in it. Well, it does not have V8 worthy, in your V8 face kinda styling. Its looks are too tame for a growling V8. The name Lyriq is too fruity for a V8... The styling of it is perfect for battery electric... So...

If you want a Blackwing V8, get an Escalade. Full stop.

^ C'mon Willem, you're not going to conflate styling & motive power, are you? Wait... I ask this, then think about you gushing over some horrible shitbox of an '80s car just because it has a stick. I withdraw the question.

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Sorry; have had some depressing automotive news today; my detective hat is on it's hook. ? I think knowing what I know in general, the JGC fits the best RE DD's scenario, but I don't know. Not picking up on '3G'. Sorry. - - - - - grumpiness & sadness ?

It doesn't look good, the front looks too much like a Chevy Blazer and the rear end is all messed up. But it is a concept too, so we'll have to see what the production car looks like, and all the interior images they showed were simulated, so we can't really be sure yet how that will look. Would be nice to have heard more specs, like horsepower or performance beyond a targeted 300 mile range. Seems like this will be a 2023 model, so it is a ways off. I don't know why they would show their hand that far out, and I think what they have isn't better than what Tesla was selling a couple years ago.

The Cadillac front end looks like a Chevy. Even worse when you put an XT6 vs a Chevy.