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Am I missing something? I do not know about the other motors in the other brands. But knowing that Nicola Tesla invented the 3 phase induction motor and that Elon’s Tesla car company’s motor IS in fact a 3 phase induction motor, producin’ AC current, I think Tesla the company is a very appropriate name.

Schlock Marketing 101. Most consumers are too distracted by meaningless minutia to ponder much critically.

What bugs me the most as an engineer, as all these companies use Nicola Tesla name for their EVs, but he was a big proponent of AC current and designed AC motor, not DC batteries and DC motors they are using. I don't think any of his ideas has to do anything with EV cars or trucks.

Ifr they can do a Colorado replacement/competitor, or something like the H3 SUT I am all in like stink on Horse crap. Getting my house paid off in a few more years, Horse wants another truck. This is fantastic. Some of what I like in Ford Super Duty front ends in this truck....a midsize version would look fantastic in my driveway next to my Ranger. Definite upvote. I do think Ford is actually doing a damn nice job also. But yes, RAM is making a fantastic product. Shoot me but I like the Rvian. Dislike the Lordstown. I think electric trucks will pull in a different class of buyer. Agree that I don't think you will see many in Wyoming...but in Suburban neighborhoods, hell yes. Give it time, things will become their usual (SH@t) show around here....just read any of the 11,397 threads from the last 12 years....they all read strangely the same.

I think it looks really good. I'd drive something that looks like that but there's nowhere to fill hydrogen around me...or anybody who isn't in California.

Very old info., nearly 1.5 years ago with first two articles, might as well be 15 years ago with what's going on in 4 or 5 of the "Top Ten" cities on the list. Even the Bankrate write-up from this February is way out of date already. Keep diggin'!

If ya talking about me, I was working making money, so just now reading through this. Plus I am not the only one here that knows a thing or two about EV's. I clearly do not consider myself an expert, but thank you.

Nikola and Tesla are two separate companies and brand names. Any correlation to a historical figure named 'Nikola Tesla' is coincidental, though likely intentional for marketing purposes.

The last part is what I’m talking about. Hydrogen fuel cell tech is far more complex and more expensive to maintain if service is needed and now its being combined with another tech (electric) that also has a certain level of complexity when it comes to service (in relation to fixing any potential problems with it). We won’t even get into the infrastructure side of things where hydrogen is concerned.

Noticed one of these a couple days ago out on the road. Really unfortunate styling all around. Would not want to be seen in.

Lots promise there but until there is an actual truck, I will reserve judgement on it. Certainly looks light years better than that abomination from Tesla. I also am not keen on the combination of electric and fuel cell tech. Seems overly complex and creates yet another barrier towards acceptance where fuel cell tech and infrastructure are concerned.

I've probably read 1,000 articles on Pontiacs over the years, I really can't recall Pontiac being referred to by a writer as having 'kidney'-shaped grilles. I guess a couple might've been in there, but it certainly hasn't been even 5% via my observations. Probably because they simply have never been produced in that shape. It's likely a thoughtless bleed-over from BMW. Journalists are notoriously lazy & inaccurate. I would never call them that because... as stated above.

1979 Pontiac LeMans (for Balthy, since the car's too new to commit to memory) :

The headlights remind me of Ford.. a bit of Ram Rebel in the grille. Will be interesting to see how this proceeds---so will there be some commonality between this and the GM EV trucks? Haven't read the article yet...sounds promising, though. Very normal looking pickup, not sci-fi cray-cray like the Tesla Cybertruck.

Wow, Surprised @ocnblu has not popped in to comment.

I have to say that the Nikola Badger Super truck is a nice looking truck and solid competitor to the RAM which I have felt is one of the best looking trucks out there. What do you all think of the Badger EV fuel cell Truck? Nikola has now stated there will be two versions. 455 HP / 980 lb-ft of torque AWD 910 hp / 1,960 lb-ft of torque AWD 300 miles on battery pack and 300 miles on Fuel cell generator. @Robert Hall @ccap41 @Drew Dowdell @balthazar @A Horse With No Name @surreal1272 @trinacriabob @riviera74 @oldshurst442 So what do you guys think of their concept above now that they have an updated actual truck? Do you think it will make it as is to when they reveal their fleet of Mules in December? Thoughts of GM investment in Nikola and the manufacturing plant that Nikola is getting to build the Badger Truck along with using GM's platform? Sounds off please.

Lucid has a reveal this evening of the production version of the Air. https://www.lucidmotors.com/

My favorite car, with good battery technology. Still love the original Mustang Fastback.

You are correct, my bad. The first roadster, Model S and X used AC induction motors. They had DC batteries and inverter for the motors. But starting with Model 3 they switched to permanent magnet DC motors. I forgot. Funny, is that our local EV expert and guru didn't correct me ...

While we don't always agree, you are not far off of the mark here. Hard pass from the Horse.

Denver has been high for a loong time and not just geographically. The Song "Rocky Mountain High" might have had something to do with the weed grown in those mountains... But in all seriousness, yes to Denver.

Nice to see Denver high in all those lists...probably the only place I've previously lived that I really miss moving away from.

NONE of them to date; Rivian, Atlis, Lordstown, Via, Nikola... are doing anything appearance-wise to pull any of the loyal truck buyers away from what they love.

And you @David think the new Silverado 1500 is ugly? WOW. This smorgasbord of a monstrosity is all over the place, I see Chevy, Ford, Dodge and maybe even some Nissan Titan all Frankensteined together. I'm not anti-EV like you think, but I do think a truck should sound like a truck with a proper V8. I'd rather have the EREV 800 hp VIA XTRUX with the GM Voltec setup and still have a V8, best of both worlds.

Don't care for the overwraught styling; too garish. What the hell is with the 'neon' tube along the side?? I also agree the giant triangular C-pillar is simply weird.

Puke

@trinacriabob We aim to please. Top 10 places by CNBC https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/us-news-world-report-best-places-to-live-in-the-us-in-2019.html#:~:text=1 Austin%2C Texas 2 Denver%2C Colorado 3 Colorado,Washington D.C.) did not make this year’s list. Top 125 places by US News https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/best-places-to-live Top 10 places to live by Bankrate where they factor in Affordability, Culture, Safety, Job Market and Education. https://www.bankrate.com/real-estate/best-places-to-live/us/

Shoot, I keep forgetting you bought yourself an EV, you haven't posted a thread on it. APOLOGIES.

You can say 'until exactly what I want comes along and I decide to buy one' all day long, but that runs dangerously close to the 'vaporware' scenario. IMO - either support both until you make the switch & divest yourself of IC, or stop bashing other people's preferences. Again, just one guy's opinion. BTW : 'oil-dripping, smoke spewing' comments certainly could fall under 'fake IC info'.

You'd certainly have to narrow things down to critique: Pontiac only used the split grille in a 150 different applications over 50 years.

I actually preferred the look of the older one. It was much more distinctive compared to the competition. I’m done with small displacement turbos replacing larger NA engines myself, but this isn’t the best case scenario for that argument. The 1.8 was gutless and saw no noticeable fuel economy gain over the 1.4T. The 1.4T does roll on like a larger engine and would be perfectly suitable as a base engine in these. The 1.8 NA should have been dropped completely and a 1.8T should have been offered.

I'm totally with you on this. I, too, would prefer a higher displacement N.A. engine over a small engine with a turbo. I know that there's CAFE and all these benchmarks the automakers have hurled at them and the turbocharger was one route toward compliance. However, ten horses and 1 mpg don't mean much to me when you can have simpler and more hassle free powertrains in the engine bay of your small or medium-sized car.

I agree, I really dislike the exterior. I thought maybe in person it looks better, but I recently saw one on the road and it doesn't. The interior looks very good.

I do not like the exterior styling at all, but it stands out and that will appeal to many. The interior styling I think is a home run (except for that steering wheel, which wouldn't make me walk away). Hyundai went above and beyond with this.

My partner has got one (Tesla). Two of my immediate neighbors have got EVs. (Both Teslas). One of those neighbors had a 1st gen Volt. A mom of one of the girls I coach in softball has got one. (Tesla) And I shoot the shyte with ALL them regarding their EV ownership. And guess what? None of YOUR fears, and fake EV news relate to their world of EV ownership, dipshyte.

Ram is the only truck company listening to their owners. You heard it from the top at Ram. So the focus remains true, and the product reflects that. There is no dilution/weakening/sissifying of the product going on.