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I'm not sure what you're saying was false... but here's what I know about these engines. The 3800 basic design goes way back '78 (though it had relatives from before then), but it technically did not become what we know of as the 3800 until 1988. Various sensors had been added and changed over the years to make it more efficient. The series 1 and series II made other minor changes to the block, but it was largely the same design. It was a cast-iron block rather than the aluminum 3.6 liter. The Optispark distributor system was excellent in concept, but had a design flaw that allowed moisture to build up inside. Later versions and aftermarket replacements included drain hole to allow moisture to escape. People bitch and moan about Optispark because at the time they were used to the distributor sitting at the top of the engine and being easy to access. Optispark removed the necessity to access it as frequently as an old-style distributor, but it was moved under the water pump meaning that changing the distributor meant draining the radiator (!!) and doing a water pump gasket. It was just a convenience thing for the old-school guys. But I bet every single one of those guys would take Optispark over a timing belt driven Honda which was common at the time. A timing belt job on them ALSO included doing a water pump swap. @A Horse With No Name - The GM 3.6 issue are largely around the timing chain and service intervals. GM tried to extend oil change intervals on the earlier ones, but old oil would cause the motors to stretch out the timing chains to the point that the VVT couldn't compensate. Multiple manufacturers (Ford and Honda that I know of) have dealt with similar problems, so it's not a situation unique to GM. GM addressed it by strengthening the chain and shortening the service interval. Other than that, the 3.6 has been fairly reliable by my knowledge. Electric motors have fewer moving parts if that's what you mean by simpler design, however the electronics in them are more sophisticated and complex. There's also (usually) no multi-gear transmission to worry about. I've actually been to seminars on this subject. Car manufacturer are already aware and working on it. More and more manufacturers are going to go with hardened versions of mobile device software to run their cars. Let Google or Apple or Blackberry sort out the operating system level stuff and the manufacturer will handle the car running parts.

No, they are not, Sports cars alive and well. You can't compare performance trucks to a sports cars, different animals. Also, these trucks are nothing new, there were plenty before and none of them killed sports, muscle and performance vehicles. EV sports cars are coming too. Which do you think will have better performance 1000HP EV SUV or a EV sports car?

Mechanically EVs are definitely more simple. However, a different issue will be that they are heavily controlled by software, complicated software. So there will be different issues.

I'm told this one is a '78. The black bumper rub strips confirm it is a later model. Hard to believe in '79 they would go to the starkly designed, heritage-challenged Fox Body Mustang. They certainly wiped the slate clean with that one. My favorite Fox-Body Mustang was the late model LX 5.0 Notchback, simple and potent. In dark green, of course!

Trailblazer - South Korea EcoSport - India, on a European platform Renegade - Italy, on a European platform In fact, there isn't a single subcompact crossover built in the U.S. by any manufacturer. The closest you can get is the CX-30 (edit: and HR-V) which are built in Mexico. The smallest crossovers built in the U.S. are the CR-V/RDX and Escape/Corsair.

Good gentle music for Tuesday. A good college can be over rated. You chose your own path, and it has worked well for you apparently. Bravo and Kudos from me. If I hadn't bought the Ranger or another Truck...something like this might have been good. want a wrangler or Bronco Badly. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/819870776/overview/?aff=pkmedia&bac=pkmedia&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw9jvjt3r6wIVaBP5AB1OSww7EAEYASADEgJee_D_BwE

Isn't it amazing how some types of journalism gel with you while others do not? Either way, you couldn't get the major automotive magazines out of my hands by the time I started high school. My parents didn't like that. They felt I should study more. For not having studied much at all, pulling an A minus average at a Catholic high school and not getting into trouble wasn't all that bad. The only problem was that the very best colleges would have laughed at my application and used it as toilet paper.

Yum yum ?

Hey SMK, I mean Blu, nice bar moving. You said nothing of price and your assessment of the TB can easily be applied to the Venue, ie good luck finding those base models. Again though, the TB is competition for the Venue and is sold by a domestic company here. Those were the two rules YOU set up. Not base price. Not what can be found in the “real world”. You were wrong, end of story. The TB also has more power and more cargo room but I guess pointing that out is just salt in a open wound at this point.

My one problem with Global trade is the blantent piracy that is allowed. Foton has released their latest truck which is a rip off of the Ford Raptor Gen 1 truck. Only difference is that this is a Mid Size truck, not full size and the engine options is Performance 2.0L Turbo 4 gas (238 hp) or Diesel in 2.0L or 2.5L size engines (no HP / torque ratings yet). Where Ford used a 10sp transmission, Foton is buying and installing the 8 sp ZF manual with all engines. No auto available yet. https://fordauthority.com/2020/09/chinese-automaker-foton-creates-a-ford-f-150-raptor-ripoff-called-the-big-general/

Very true about colleges. Just because it's 1.5x tougher to get into, does it mean it's 1.5x tougher in its equivalent courses and to get through? Probably not. What will happen at the more prestigious schools is that more students, percentage wise, will produce better work - tests, research, papers, assignments, etc. - so there will be higher grades on transcripts across the board. I have a friend who is a civil engineer in CA who went to one of the flagship state universities in the Mountain West. He said, "We used the same textbooks that they did at Berkeley." I thought, "Bronze plate that one." He commuted from home to his university. He couldn't do that with Berkeley. And this guy is super smart.

Unfortunately, my carb is electronic and the machines to calibrate it are unobtainium..,... so it has to be hacked through manual adjustment.

Unfortunately, as long as my idiot brother is alive, I can't get to them..

Considering I haven't driven a car with a carb regularly in over 25 years, I just have no need or interest in undertanding how carbs work.

The bowl most millinelas would understand is called a bong, not a bowl...let's get our terminology right.

You are like me and few others here part of the 1% crowd that understands those things. Ask a Millennial about needle and seats in a carb, Glazed look. Ask about a float bowl, again glazed look. Get into the details of the float or jets and glazed comatose look. Talk about the Throttle blade/s or accelerator pump and you will get some crazy response if they are fast enough to even think of where a blade or pump might be on an auto. Ask them about how they would adjust a choke and you might just get something sexual and perverse. Yea, I do not think many beyond us 1% crowd would understand a carb.

Here! I understand carburetors.

Yes, but modern folks can deal with that. Try finding anyone that udnerstands a carburetor... That's why I carry full coverage insurance on everything I own.

no different than when people would prank some ones ice auto with sugar in the tank or other things that would bring an ICE to a halt, different hacking / viruses. Everything has a chance to be attacked.

Only a matter of time before hacking & viruses are a defacto worry of EVs / any car with over the air updating.

Very true, This is where QA testing will have to be very solid as testing software and insuring it is not hacked as GM has stated about their new Electrical Nervous system that allows over air updates on the ICE auto's as well as EVs. Need a secure, solid built software nervous system.

We actually just replaced our air conditioner and it was from the 50's...3 phase.

Or in my case, were I to win a new Vette in a Raffle, I would trade it for a Ford Raptor. Seriously.... My Ranger can haul off your carcass when you have a heart attack...J/K....that looks fabulous.

Last Friday, Kenworth announced the start of their new EV truck line with two box trucks for inner city delivery with a Class 6 and Class 7 truck. K270E and K370E models plenty more pictures for those interested in the power train or battery pack on the company press release. These trucks are in production with the first ones set to be delivered by December. The trucks come in the following options list: 24 or 30 foot lengths. 100 or 200 mile battery packs 355 or 469 HP electric motors Enough Torque to start on a 20% grade Enough power to maintain 40 mph on a 6% grade fully loaded Regenerative braking DC fast charging https://www.kenworth.com/news/news-releases/2020/september/electric-trucks-available/

Well...GM of today versus GM of the 1970s and 1980s and well into the 1990s was a GM that we would all like to forget about. GM today is more on the ball with reliability and quality than those years. Not arguing with you, just trying to set a logical focal point on where we should be bitchin' about. Ive heard the timing chain on that V6 was problematic. On the early versions. I heard that the 1st generation Lambdas has issues with their 3.6s with those folk that didnt do their regularly scheduled maintenance. I havent heard anything about the later 3.6s though. And Ill agree to your point about VV & cylinder shut off being more complicated than anything the L83s and LS1s and 3.8s had, but they did have many sensors and solenoids to go wrong nonetheless. Regardless though, none of those things were problematic. On any engine GM built from the 1970s-2020s. At least none that Im aware of. (optispark maybe?) Gaskets wearing off and causing lots of headaches to GM owners WAS a problem. QUAD 4, Northstar, 3.4 DOHC, 3.4 OHV all had these problems.

Those were simple compared to what they are building today with the VVT, cylinder shut off, OHC V6s, etc. And from a different GM than what it is today. Anyway, I haven't heard about major issues w/ the 3.6..they seem to be putting it in a lot of vehicles, FWD and RWD..

Name: 2013 Chevrolet Avalanche LTZ Black Diamond Category: Vehicles Date Added: 2020-09-14 Submitter: Drew Dowdell 2013 Chevrolet Avalanche LTZ Black Diamond

Crew, I'm going to be doing some forum cleanup and consolidation. I will update this post with the moves and changes I make. Heritage Marques has been moved under Brand Discussion All discussions in the Pontiac forum have been moved into Heritage Marques and the Pontiac Forum closed All discussions in the Hummer forum have been moved into Heritage Marques and the Hummer Forum closed All discussions in the Saturn forum have been moved into Heritage Marques and the Saturn Forum closed All discussions in the Oldsmobile forum have been moved into Heritage Marques and the Oldsmobile Forum closed All discussions in the Mercury forum have been moved into Heritage Marque and the Mercury Forum closed All discussions in the Registry Rundown forum have been moved into The Lounge and Registry Rundown forum closed All discussions in the Events, Shows, and Gatherings forum have been moved into The Lounge and Events, Shows, and Gatherings forum closed All discussions in Motorsports Forum have been moved into The Lounge and Motorsports Forum closed Random Car Showcase has been moved under Social Central Advertising Archive has been moved under Social Central Competitions and its sub-categories has been moved under Social Central Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles has been renamed to Stellantis. Peugeot has moved under Stellantis The Scion forum was empty and has been closed Subaru has moved under Toyota Motor Corporation Holden topics have been moved out of Holden/Opel/Vauxhall and into Heritage Marques Holden/Opel/Vauxhall has been renamed Opel/Vauxhall Opel/Vauxhall has been moved under Stellantis A new Stellantis category has been added to the News system and will post content to the Stellantis forum Topic list and Post list now will list 100 maximum instead of 25 - This reduces the number of times you need to click "Next Page" More to Come

Although you dont have to defend your decision. Its YOUR mom's money that counts. The thing is...like everything else you say in these forums, its bupkis. There is domestic alternatives. You dont have to buy them. Your money. But then there is the other shytty thing you do, you give your fellow Americans grief for exercising those very same phoquing freedoms YOU want to enjoy. Although @Drew Dowdell wants us to not post things personal, its hard when YOU exercise YOUR freedoms because YOU make it personal. @ykX told me to act my age when I post...Drew erased this posts, because it truly got ridiculous. And here were are 24 hours later, and the same shyt happens again with another poster. Common denominator: @ocnblu I wrote in the now erased post that Drew cleaned up that some of us should consider what we want in these forums. Well...seeing that most of us are in our late 40s, and a good chunk of us are in our 50s...right Blu? Well...Ill take my words and @ykX message to heart. I dont need to act my age, as he says, but I do need to spend my time with more mature folk. Its sad really when my teenaged workers are more mature than you @ocnblu. Ive come to the conclusion that you prefer to troll rather than have real discussions. Ive done this rodeo once before over at Motor Trend forums once upon a time ago. There was this guy called Wings. He posted here. You strangely remind me of him... Well...I wont let the door kick me in the a$$ on the way out. For reals this time.

Even fewer can spell it correctly. That is one of the words I do misspell. I wonder how many auto mechanics can work on older pre-OBD-II vehicles.

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Foton Craptor...

Nice looking truck though.

Everything analog has become a black art though when it shouldn't be. I am learning how to effectively sharpen chain saw chains...I can get a dozen or so good sharpenings until I mess up the blade geometry and have to take them back to the hardware store to be re sharpened. I even have the fancy tool Stihl sells. Guy who sharpens chains is like 90 years old...does an excellent job...but they cannot find anyone else to sharpen them well. The simplest tasks are starting to elude us as a society, sadly.

EV sport cars will have the advantage, yet when you look at where the market has moved and what people are expecting out of an Auto, the future for cars is dismal and especially sports cars. The corvette will survive by becoming that $100,000 plus super hyper car that only 1% can afford I think in the future. I suspect even the mustang, Camaro and Challenger are going to be hard to keep around in the long term future.

The inner truck lover in me is grooving to this...love it!

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True, but at least have a front lift option ( which the C8 has). But for a daily driver, SUV height suits me.

Not if you had a Corvette. A place for everything & everything in it's place.

Hummer by GMC Reveal set for Oct 20th. Reservation will be accepted starting that day also. We see the NEW Infotainment screen and dedicated CRAB MODE option. clearly APPLE and ANDROID play are supported. I believe this will be bigger seller for GM than the Cadillac will be. Excited to see the Truck, I also hope they show off the SUV. Tesla is going to be Late LATE LATE to the truck party as usual.

I really hpe rivian makes it. I really do!

trax ceertainly has a 'chin'. Trax was dead but SUV boom and trailblazer intro means trailblazer can shoot for the higher price points and the Trax sales may actually increase by being able to sell at low prices. I wouldn't be suprised to see Trax remain in the lineup unchanged until 2025 or so....Trax and Encore came out in 2013 (Trax wasn't available right away in the US). Encore will probably continue also in the Buick showrooms, 10+ year shelf life that is getting to be FCA style vehicle staying power. K5 nice looking indeed I wish they would have kept the Optima name. I wished in the past they had kept the Spectra name also though.

There is good journalism, but it is not common.

Have to say that I am excited by the Jeep Grand Wagoneer. Excited to see McIntosh is getting into premium sound systems for auto's. Love their home theater gear. https://www.autoweek.com/news/future-cars/a33901878/look-inside-the-new-jeep-grand-wagoneer-concept-vehicle/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=090320&utm_campaign=nl21400259&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

Totally agree that they could have come up with a better name, but the over all package is Awesome. I think this will sell very well and work well when people drive it into the city in stop n go traffic. Quiet, no emission pure electric will work perfect there. I wonder how it will do in crawl mode in the rocks. Glad to see it is water proof.

I believe XC60 is already safest car in the world by rating of the US and European safety agencies and by accident statistics. And that's Volvo's best selling car in US and Europe.

Interwebs tell me “A fatal car accident is practically inevitable at speeds of 70 mph (or more). Volvo may wish to reprogram their governors.

$69 grand for a volvo? ?