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No different than what the rest of the industry does... Literally... NO OEM gives you the freedom to check boxes of items you want while deleting ones you dont...

If Salvador Dali drove a Ford Truck... The previous one for Balthazar, the nest one for Oldshurst... One for Ocnblu... Purple not 'blu but I think it will do...

Bison from my 5 mile winter hike yesterday....at Battelle darby Creek park...wife and I went...was beautiful...trails not busy though at 18 degrees. Wonder why? We are about to get hit. On snow removal duty here at work. This photograph is by Julie Eiber. Moe wood art, unsure of who carved these or who took the photograph.

Snow has been light so far here in the Cleveland area. My driveway was clear yesterday except for the piles of snow and ice down the middle, still there with new snow down. Supposed to get worse later today.

Spalted maple. I have two logs in the driveway to turn when I get time off Wednesday...not my work...but love this wood. Bought a stainless steel excercise bench for my wife. Got to the dudes shop to pick it up and he has half a Boxx 302, a real boss 302, on his wall. Tree fell on the car a few decades ago, this was a parts car for another Boss 302 he restored. He still has the motor, tranny, shock towers, and a bunch of parts. He is thinking about rebuilding the shell and putting this back on the road... More wood art...

About to get it in Columbus also. Painful not seeing the SS in a heated garage. I did see a 1970 thunderbird out and about yesterday...decent shape.....18 degrees out. My wife and I took a five mile winter hike. Some wood turning for Monday. Not my work! Flames, not just for that 34 Ford street rod...

A little high, yes but in a world where there are 3 cylinder Trailblazers selling for $32K, its not THAT high.

You’re assuming that that it would be a Bolt+12 when it could just be a completely different model entirely that is larger, which is what should happen or yes, it would be very redundant. Either way, despite the usual naysayer, both models are cheaper than the one model they replace so that is a step in the right direction.

It has a proper little ice mpower plant, so C and G approved. We once had to pull a bunch of data lines over the ceiling (drop ceiling ) 20 feet above a retail store. Getting in and setting up ladders was going to be a bitch. One of the guys had an idea, we busted out a block or two on either side of that retail space...above the ceiling...drove across with a battery powered small toy truck towing a string...pulled a rope with the string....pulled the data lines across. Done in 3 hours with a job that was bid for four days. Ate steak on the company credit card, went home and made sure the wife had an "enjoyable" evening. I don't come here to deal with reality, I come here to escape it.

Rare option :

Correct.

Sound relationship advice... I asasume so. Unsound relationship advice...

Is that like an El Camino/Ranchero but as a Cadillac? Its got to be a coachbuilder build and not from Cadillac direct, right?

I really like it... Humor for today...

Surprisingly I’ve never seen one in person, that I recall. I think there were only about 240 built.

80% of gay men are born that way. The other 20% are sucked into it.

Bolt EV and EUV 65 KW/H battery Bolt EV 259 mile range starting at $31 995 Bolt EUV 250 mile range starting at $33 995 Launch Edition Bolt EUV that includes Supercruise is $43 000. But GM will offer Supercruise on other models but GM did NOT price the option... Biden admin will probably extend EV credits. $7500. GM could benefit by it. If the Biden admin does do that, then the Bolt EV will cost the consumer $24 995 and the EUV $26 495. One does NOT have to option the EUV with Supercruise... The Bolt EV and EUV only have a 65 KW/H battery with no other battery option. No long range version. No faster version. The Bolt EV and EUV are NOT one of those 'enthusiastic' type vehicles like Teslas are or the MUSTANG Mach E. The Bolt EV and EUV are on the low man on the car totem pole world of vehicles. The Chevrolet Spark in the Chevrolet world. But in EV form. The Bolt EV and EUV are NOT Mustang Mach E natural competitors. I dont know how much Ford's Supercruise tech will cost as an option for the Mach E, but Im assuming that at the Mach E's BASE price of $41 000 does NOT include this (not really necessary) option. I would SAFELY say that if at Tesla Autopilot is a $10 000 option and over at GM is just about the same, then at Ford it would be roughly equal to that. The Bolt EV and EUV still look clumsy. Just like EVERY small shytty CUV available since the dawn of time. The Mustang Mach E actually looks good as a sporty CUV. Still a shytty CUV if you ask me. Between the two, Id rather the Mach E. But Id rather the looooong in the tooth Tesla Model S over both of them. Or the Hummer EV. But at $100 000 for either, that is a HARD pass. Not because of the EV factor. But for the $100 000 factor. if I were to choose an EV car right NOW, I think the Mustang Mach E would get my money. ONLY because I could actually afford it. But Ill tell ya one thing...$26 495 after guvment subsidies for an excellent EV to get me off of gasoline would be enticing... Very...VERY enticing indeed.

My dad had one, was a fun car to drive in high school. Delta 88 Pace car is one of my favorite cars of the era.

Blu's Clues: the transmission complaints were for the automatic, which are well known. Mine was a manual. Problem solved. NEXT!

I agree. I would add the the downsized B Bodies of 1977-1990 as well. Actually, all full-sized RWD GM platforms up until 1990.

Step off yourself dorky car driver. Not sure if you’re trying to convince me or yourself here but again, those who drive dork cars don’t get to call other cars “dorky”. It’s just that simple. Oh and only Fiesta ST was worth a damn, as far as fun driving goes. The rest of the lineup was a hot mess. It was also an unreliable pile just like the Beetle. You seem to have a habit of buying unreliable cars. And I quote, ”Inside and out, the 2011 Fiesta had problems so severe it was the worst model year overall. It also earned CarComplaints.com’s “Beware of the Clunker” badge. The irony here is that the 2011 model year was the Ford Fiesta’s first year of availability in North America. Owners submitted complaints in 174 problem categories and major problem categories were related to the transmission, interior accessories, and engine. 40% percent of the problems were related to the transmission.” But I digress...back to the Bolt.

Staying warm in my office w/ Beardsley under my desk

Those who have owned cars such as the VW Beetle and the Ford Fiesta don’t get to call other vehicles “dorky” without bursting into flames over the sheer hypocrisy of said statement.

Wood carving by Ina Kruit...

It should be noted that super cruise is for the Bolt EUV. I do not see it mentioned for the standard Bolt but it still makes the EUV the lowest priced GM model with the feature if I’m not mistaken. Some people still just want to bitch just for the sake of bitching though.

Supercruise offered in a 31 000 dollar GM vehicle? THAT, I believe, would be the lowest priced vehicle by GM that Supercruised is offered. Am I right? PLUS a sunroof... A base Camaro is at 28 Gs I believe. Unfortunately, even though the Bolt EUV is a tad on the smallish side of family hauling duties, I think, that it does a better job of that than the Camaro... A fully fully equipped Trax tops out at 25 Gs? The Buick equivalent reaches 30 Gs? The Hyundai Veloster N is 28 Gs. YES...like you have said, THIS particular EV is DEFINETELY just a hair more expensive than a comparable ICE CUV. But is that really a surprise, though? But...is that really such a huge deterrent? I dont think so. *SIGH* You TRY to steer the conversation to a more positive area, but the conversation keeps on getting sidetracked by absolute nonsense. Thank-you for trying to be rational about it as I too, would prefer to talk about the good things that GM did with the Bolt EUV, but certain things will NEVER change. Enabling bad behaviour seems to be a common theme lately...

Always liked the fuselage era Mopies...haven't seen a '69-70 Polara or Monaco in forever..

But that is neither here nor there... The rest of my aggressive post is just me busting your chops...for hilarity.

Delusional with a CAPTIAL D, Days of $18K auto's are over. EVERYTHING is more expensive especially due to a FAILED Trade war that increased costs for US Consumers. Facts! Welcome to the 21st Century! Average New-Vehicle Prices Jump Nearly 4% Year-Over-Year in August 2020, According to Kelley Blue Book - Sep 1, 2020 (kbb.com) Driving is a privilege earned and NOT a right. We have already covered the average cost of an auto and no company will go backwards. Your $25K auto is the new $15K auto. Reality sucks, but you have a choice, further education, further career growth or stagnant income.

So....if Im to understand, Chevrolet is actually offering a brand new electric vehicle, that actually went DOWN in price, yet here we are, questioning the dimensions of it and how closely it resembles the older model? With a few shytty reasons to hate it. (BIG surprise there...) Range staying the same, the vehicle becoming slightly bigger, BUT the price dropping a WHOPPING 5 grand yet we are bitchin' about useless things. A REAL 5 grand too. Not a phantom price that the consumer will NEVER see... The point is, as I called it, AFFORDABILITY for EVs starts and ends with the old guard OEMs. The ones that are established with factories built loooong ago, with the expertise in manufacturing quickly and with economies of scale. I wanna know why we arent focusing on the, what I deem to be, a BREAKTHROUGH in the START of AFFORDABILITY of EVs coming from General Motors.. THIS on the heals of Tesla announcing a 25 thousand dollar EV... https://electrek.co/2021/01/08/tesla-25000-electric-car-coming-sooner-than-we-thought/ I think talking about a REDUCTION in price for EVs seems a more interesting conversation than what you folk have been doing... But that is just me, I guess...

I think Bolt EV is completely redundant. EUV slightly bigger and seems besides the extra size they are completely identical, price is not much different either. Weird how GM does certain things.

Name: 2019 Chevrolet Equinox LS Category: Vehicles Date Added: 2021-02-15 Submitter: daves87rs 2019 Chevrolet Equinox LS

That’s some good looking food.... Ordered in, bought a few gifts, watched Josh Groban (yes, I survived ? ) and had a happy wife for Valentines Day. Looks like we we be in most of the week...not one, but two snow storms on the way this week....... That will be here later this week...will be my Equinox buried in this snow......

Shell has announced that they hit peak oil production / gas production in 2019 and have been for the last 5 years diversifying their business to cover from green energy such as wind farms to charging businesses to carbon capture to help other businesses reduce their carbon foot print. Shell like BP Oil plans to be carbon neutral by 2050. Shell admits it's past peak oil, eyes carbon offsets as a business opportunity (greencarreports.com) Affordable EVs are here, perfect for @ocnblu You can get yours on Alibaba for only $3,200 and they will ship it to you for your doorstep delivery.

Yeah, I've seen a couple of his vids before, and obviously it's a parody, I was just checking on the pro-nunce. Like when you listen to a song for years and years and suddenly it clicks 'oh, THAT'S what they were saying'. ?

That would certainly be interesting enough, but I was speaking my opinion from 1000s of miles in the aforementioned ‘77-79 B-body.

Perfect, for the car lover and woodworker in me. It needs a good claybar and some carnuba after that...

Okay SMK, I mean Blu. Way to move the bar there. Fact is that if you were put that standard equipment listed on a Cruze, then your imaginary $10K difference disappears. Feel free to reference the stats David posted above (regarding average car prices) to see how completely out of touch you are here. Hell, if it didn’t have that equipment and was prices at $25K as a result, you’d be complaining about something else. Remember. You’re the one trying to compare two different things that are clearly not equal.

Brand new Mercury vertical V-12 outboard, 600 HP. Exciting!

Could be the Renegade's baby brother. I kind of like the look of those Alpha coupes...

Could be the new Dale.

And if you actually looked at the web site you would see that it clearly states these are renders of what the actual EVs are expected to look like as they get things started for this EV startup. Awesome way to plow your side walk, driveway, etc. @Robert Hall This would make clearing your driveway fun and probably easier. Looks like for sale @ Tamiya USA Shoveling Snow Is a Lot More Fun With a $2,500+ RC Mercedes-Benz Unimog Snowplow (thedrive.com)

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/19/canada-is-set-to-have-one-the-worlds-biggest-green-hydrogen-plants.html ICE is not going anywhere anytime soon. Ive read from multiple sources that hydrogen is preferred over electric in the trucking transportation business.