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That first gen Aurora was a beautiful car...GM a bunch of designs in the 90s I liked a lot...the Aurora, last gen Riviera, the '92 and '98 STS generations, the final Eldorado, a couple generations of Park Avenue. I like the final boats also like the Roadmaster, Caddy Brougham, Caprice and Impala SS...huge cars, but they looked slick.2 points
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If I hit the Powerball, I'm totally doing an Aurora EV conversion in black like the one above.2 points
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The slight difference on this one, that was not so much a grille insert, that was a styling homage to the Toronado of the day and years prior. It's a dropped header panel and wide, thin grille opening that traces roots to the Toronado from 73 - 92, which itself harkens back to the Cord. That Calais was envisioned to be a semi-luxury compact to compete with the import onslaught from Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti. It was Roger Smith's wisdom of "make sure there's a cheap version so we sell a lot of them" that ruined the prestige.2 points
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Talk about Oldsmobile and their ahead of time designs. Profile concept from the year 2000. GM did that plastic grill thing during those times. Being the late '80s early 1990s.2 points
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Two of those four have pretty large grill openings. They just aren't in the traditional "above bumper" location. The Olds are great examples. Personally, I think the styling of the 3 and S to be quite attractive (I do NOT like the Y & X). They're simple, clean and have RWD proportions. Yes, I believe they could do a little more up front to stand out but, I applaud them for not going the fake vent/grille route just to make "style". FWIW, the Beretta Z26 (my first car) also had a traditional grill=less design. There was obviously still a large opening for the radiator but it was below the bumper instead of above.2 points
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Regarding Tesla's blandness. They are trying to get away from some of the traditional elements and decorations we have on cars, but somehow they still fall short. There is some excellent grille-less design out there. Styling 25 years ahead of its time. Imagine if this came out with an electric powertrain in 2023! Oldsmobile would have been lauded as a trendsetter. Ditto You want a sports coupe? We've got your sports coupes. If someone buys a car based on looks, I don't think there will be a lot of demand for abandoning the hood-cabin or hood-cabin-boot design. You'll get a few people buying an appliance that the i3-Bolt-Leaf shaped vehicles will be fine for, but the rest of us (who aren't buying crossovers) want the traditional 2 or 3-box design. If you build it that way, you tend to want a "face" on the car, even if an open grille isn't necessary. Four cars with grille-less design and they have more styling personality than every production Tesla made... combined.2 points
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Most vehicles don't need the cooling capacity provided by gaping mouths we see on vehicles today. Trucks and SUVs that can tow, sure. But If you notice all the SUVs/CUVs with sub-5,000 lbs tow ratings with these massive grilles, most of the grille is false. (Explorer, Traverse, Acadia, etc.). Aurora got all the cooling needed for a DOHC V8 just from the scoop at the bottom of the car. There's no way a tiny 1.5T in a GMC Terrain needs this much grille real estate to keep cool.1 point
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That is a HORRIBLE design flaw. Reminds me of some the short exits on I-17 in Phoenix but that is a whole other level of dumb if the speed drops that quick because of the shortness of the exit. I will say, though, that most folks just need to actually pay attention to the damn road and that might not be such a bad spot. Just craziness.1 point
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The second video definitely makes the first video make more sense...watching the first video w/o the second it looks like the vehicles are pulled into the wall above. Reminds me a bit of 'Deadman's Curve' here on I-90 in downtown Cleveland..3-4 lanes going downhill into a tunnel, then a nearly 90 degree right turn after the tunnel, then the freeway merges into another freeway parallel to the lake... I've been in the middle lane slowing to 35 while cars pass me in the left (outer lane) standing on their brakes at 70... I imagine it can get quite dicey in winter when it gets icy.. Makes sense for practicality, though...sort of an XT6 EV equivalent?1 point
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Sure, but so do the Teslas The Teslas are just marginally smaller. I'm not saying that we should build to the same exact specifications a 1998 Integra.... just that grille-less design can be much more attractive than what Tesla is doing. The only one I like styling-wise is the S, and that would be only if I couldn't pick from any other brand.1 point
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@Drew Dowdell @surreal1272 @oldshurst442 @Robert Hall @ccap41 @riviera74 I am sure there are many and I wish like slack they had an @channel ability as this video is just too funny. Does not matter if your drive a car, suv, truck, ev or ICE. This is the Union St. Exit to down town Seattle at the Convention center and the off-ramp is a 50 plus year old off-ramp that is way too short and clearly so many people do not pay attention to the signs that go from 60mph to 20 mph in about 500 feet. As such, I just discovered that one of the folks working in the building at the off-ramp has built a compilation video of all the crashes. Enjoy Seattle Stupidity at it's best. Found a tweet of the off ramp and someone actually driving it. Seems it is 60 to 30 in a few hundred feet at best and then like 50 feet to 20mph and around the corner. Crazy.1 point
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All nonsense, useless tacky add-ons for boy-racer image that does NOTHING especially on CUVs. Electric CUVs. If the Chevy CUV SS had those vents be functional to let the air flow through for less drag for more efficiency of some sort, then I wouldnt be so critical and in agreement with you. But...its plastic boy-racer overkill. Like like you said, cleaner, simpler designs just means less is more!!! The Tesla Model 3 and Y are frumpy. Too frumpy. Simple and clean but way too frumpy. And that has dated the design quite fast since other OEMs have decided to join the EV club. But....the Model S looks good to this day. It has aged and its loooong in the tooth ONLY because its OVER a decade old now. But the Model S is a very clean design. Its sleek and it has looked great all this time BECAUSE its a clean no nonsense design.1 point
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Montreal also has a not so quite similar road. But a deadly one. A small tunnel. It is called 'tunnel de la mort' in French. Tunnel of death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_de_la_mort The wiki page doesnt do enough to define how dangerous it is. It is called tunnel of death because there has been MULTIPLE deadly car crashes there. Even BEFORE 1992. It has always had the nickname as far as I can remember. As far back as even the late 1970s... Both intersections have this tunnel thing going on that caused blind spots and drivers could not see the traffic lights properly so on both intersections, both ways, drivers couldnt see the red light to stop and just burned the red light causing deadly collisions. Only one set of tunnels have been demolished in the ealry 2000s. Both tunnels should have been demolished but nothing has happened yet. To add more danger to this shytty tunnel, the sidewalk is too small for pedastrians but because the bridge itself belongs to different railway companies, nothing is happening. The news report is condemning the tunnel, the railway companies and the city by shaming them about the dangers, If you watch the video, even if you dont understand, there are several images where one could see how dangerous it is, especially in the winter. There is a public voice, thanx in part to journalism like this to change this intersection. Report made in 2019... The entire road will eventually be reconfigured. Soon... https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/videos/media-8034316/renover-tunnel-mort#:~:text=Surnommé le « Tunnel de la,'empruntent%2C selon des citoyens. I have used this road countless of times with my parents and when I got my license and drove for myself. I never had an issue. But it is dangerous.0 points
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I think you might have seen it elsewhere as I never seen the videos till, I was cruzing during a boring all hands meeting on YouTube and came across it today. Then I find on binging the twitter coverage from one of the local news stations. I agree with you that the exit ramp that is there and I took a couple weeks back to take the wife to the Flower and Garden show at the convention center is short and terrible off ramp to a red light. Yet it was built back in 1960 when autos were a different breed. I will say they just finished a major expansion of the convention center and hotel rooms to attract tech conventions and I was surprised as many locals that this ramp was not closed for good. Politicians got their way with a old, design poor exit ramp that really should have been made to go away.0 points
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